Aetheryte vs. crystal

[McGoonagle]

So it looks like crystals will be the energy system in XIV. Aetheryte in the teleports is described as some form of crystallized energy. So: will we be talking about wind aetheryte rather than wind crystals?

How many varieties of crystal/aetheryte will there be? There seem to be two numerical patterns so far: jobs seem to be in fives, and there are said to be 12 gods.

FFXIV seems to have a finer resolution than XI, so I'm wondering if there will be 12 varieties of crystal/aetheryte to select from.

[Psion]

well, I'd expect to see at least the 8 elements in ffxi, but if you want an element for each god, I can think of 3 more that might work... spirit, energy (non-elemental), space-time. You got me beat on the last one.

[xopher]

Aetheryte is equivalent to a crystal at one of the crags in FFXI.

They've stated elemental crystals will once again be used for synthesis. Page five of the lifestyle section of the website.

[Chakra]

Aetheryte is equivalent to a crystal at one of the crags in FFXI.

They've stated elemental crystals will once again be used for synthesis. Page five of the lifestyle section of the website.

It doesn't mention elemental, just a crystal. It may be elemental, but then it would be confusing to me as to why you'd need tools and a burner on top of a fire crystal. I don't know about you, but I like my steak medium-rare and not charred.

[xopher]

It doesn't mention elemental, just a crystal. It may be elemental, but then it would be confusing to me as to why you'd need tools and a burner on top of a fire crystal. I don't know about you, but I like my steak medium-rare and not charred.

That argument doesn't disprove the elemental crystals. It only proves that they've added new individual character animations for synthing, rather than a catch-all animation for every synth.


http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/ff...9/Jacodaut.jpg

All synthing requires a crystal, so I'm sure this culinarian's guild NPC used one as well, but he still needs a burner and pan.

[Thiefami]

didnt it say somewhere the aetheryte is made up of mist, if so mist makes a return ;o

[xopher]

didnt it say somewhere the aetheryte is made up of mist, if so mist makes a return ;o

Pretty sure no. Also FFIX was terrible.

[Chakra]

That argument doesn't disprove the elemental crystals. It only proves that they've added new individual character animations for synthing, rather than a catch-all animation for every synth.

I understand. I just don't think it will be the same system. You're just basing it off of what you're familiar with just because a general crystal is used in the lifestyle description. Not bashing you though.. there is nothing wrong with thinking so, but I'd like to see more people acknowledge that this isn't FFXI and maybe it has a new system altogether. Rather than immediately confirming a system that is used in an entirely different game based on one similarity.

[vrumpt]

i don't care how i make my stuff so long as i don't have a 5% chance to fail a synth i am worlds above being capable to make.

[xopher]

I understand. I just don't think it will be the same system. You're just basing it off of what you're familiar with just because a general crystal is used in the lifestyle description. Not bashing you though.. there is nothing wrong with thinking so, but I'd like to see more people acknowledge that this isn't FFXI and maybe it has a new system altogether. Rather than immediately confirming a system that is used in an entirely different game based on one similarity.

The Japanese news media seems to have it in their heads that it will be elemental crystals as well. They're assuming a fire crystal will be used, based on what was said on the Japanese version of the website.

[Kaiyoko]

Pretty sure no. Also FFIX was terrible.

Mist was XII unless you're talking about something else..

Also:

Aetheryte could just be a what they are naming the crystals in this FF. The original had orbs, FFVI had magicite, FFVII materia, FFX spheres, and FFXII had nethicite(sp?).

[Destinye]

Mist was XII unless you're talking about something else..

Also:

Aetheryte could just be a what they are naming the crystals in this FF. The original had orbs, FFVI had magicite, FFVII materia, FFX spheres, and FFXII had nethicite(sp?).

Mist in FFIX produced monsters and powered airships till the Hilda Garde 3/Invincible.

Offtopic:

What was wrong with FFIX aside having to actually do work for abilities? >.> It was leaps and bounds better than FFVIII ever was <.<

[McGoonagle]

<snip> I'd like to see more people acknowledge that this isn't FFXI and maybe it has a new system altogether. Rather than immediately confirming a system that is used in an entirely different game based on one similarity.

Absolutely. 14 != 11, even for very large values of 11. If they call these things aetheryte in the game, it is a nomenclatural change, but also a reminder that things are different. Even from what little they revealed in the lifestyle segment, it's obvious that the mechanics of crafting are going to be very different from XI. (Not just ingredients and crystals, but ingredients in the right order (when learning at least), the right utensil, and the right crystal.)

The whole game looks like it's going to be incredibly flexible and adaptable, as long as you are ready to adapt.

P.s. additional crystal possibilities: as we have water and ice and light and dark in XI, we could have thunder and lightning, or fire and smoke to help bump it up to 12 if that is what's going to happen.

[Tulun]

Offtopic:

What was wrong with FFIX aside having to actually do work for abilities? >.> It was leaps and bounds better than FFVIII ever was <.<

Haha I was thinking the exact same thing. I do like SE is willing to experiment with different styles of combat, though... leveling up monsters + drawing stuff was definitely unique... if not awful.

[Kaiyoko]

Mist in FFIX produced monsters and powered airships till the Hilda Garde 3/Invincible.

Offtopic:

What was wrong with FFIX aside having to actually do work for abilities? >.> It was leaps and bounds better than FFVIII ever was <.<

Ah yes I remember now.. That's why they couldn't take airships to the other continents because no mist existed their.

Also I think some people hate FFIX because ZOMG it's not like VII and VIII! VII was clearly the first game! Personally I liked IX but I don't replay it as much as others because of the story can get dull.

[xopher]

FFIX had a good battle system and ability system but the characters and story were terrible and forgettable.

Also the tagline for FFIX was "The Crystal Comes Back". So I was expecting an elemental crystal story like the early FFs through V. Turns out crystal was some bullshit they didn't even mention til the last dungeon.

Was pretty terribad.

FFVIII is the worst in the series though for sure.

[Chakra]

Ah yes I remember now.. That's why they couldn't take airships to the other continents because no mist existed their.

Also I think some people hate FFIX because ZOMG it's not like VII and VIII! VII was clearly the first game! Personally I liked IX but I don't replay it as much as others because of the story can get dull.

I loved IX, too! I thought VII's materia system was kind of nice, but I think the reason IX's system felt like it worked was because each character was different in which spells/abilities they could learn and sounds similar to how XIV is shaping up to to be.

Maybe a mixture of both systems where you become proficient in your weapon of choice allows you to level up your character and installing aetheryte into the weapon allows you to train for spells/abilities? Sounds like a lot of hoop jumping maybe, but this could be what allows this customized feel in development of your class.

All speculation aside, I'm excited for the final product of this armoury system whatever it may be.

[Kaiyoko]

FFIX had a good battle system and ability system but the characters and story were terrible and forgettable.

Also the tagline for FFIX was "The Crystal Comes Back". So I was expecting an elemental crystal story like the early FFs through V. Turns out crystal was some bullshit they didn't even mention til the last dungeon.

Was pretty terribad.

FFVIII is the worst in the series though for sure.

What's wrong with VIII? It's pretty solid besides having to draw the hell out of all the magic. Squall too emo for you lol?

[xopher]

What's wrong with VIII? It's pretty solid besides having to draw the hell out of all the magic. Squall too emo for you lol?

Deus ex machina GF plot device.

[Gergall]

I wouldn't call "5" a pattern in FFXIV just because there appear to be 5 jobs in each category. This number will surely increase with expansions. That said, 5 might be a pattern anyway since it is the number of races. The fact that there are 5 races affects a lot of things in FFXI (random example: the 5 towers in the internal sea zones).

All synthing requires a crystal, so I'm sure this culinarian's guild NPC used one as well, but he still needs a burner and pan.

There are (very) few times in the game that talk about how people used to make things the old-fashioned way before crystal synthesis was discovered. I would argue that the NPC is simply cooking something the old way.