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[Tsuko_Asura]

You know I didn't mean it baby;;

What the FUCK is going on here

[Therin]

I'm too stupid to read TOS agreements.

ftfy.

[krish]

Oh, that's right, none of you do because you're all server transfer dickholes. Get the fuck off my server. This shit is fucking dumb as hell.

Lots of people are transferring to Dunemaul?

[Therin]

Lots of people are transferring to Dunemaul?

Hahahah! Well played.

[willriker]

lol at this thread.

this thread makes me so happy to be in the endgame LS i am in. and compete against the endgame LS's that i do... the way other servers seem to handle endgame is... a bit too immature for my liking.

Are all servers fucked up like the one in this thread?

[enoch]

Twice in this thread someone from Glorious has tried to pull Armada and its recent changes into this overhyped haze/volume lulz-non-drama. Being a member of Armada both before and after the recent changes, my response to that is simply... the changes to our shell didn't require any sort of drama thread like the one we're participating in right now.

Nor does the decision of *some* of the Armada leaders to join Volume have anything to do with the OP, the defacement of Haze's site by their own site admin, the ensuing non-drama, or any of the other bullshit discussion in this thread about server transfers, Phoenix natives, and assorted douchebaggery.

I'll renew the suggestion I made a few pages back - lock this thread.

[Starr]

Why did you come back?

lol wat? Didn't you get the message? I am the most important thing on BG. Still failing T3s btw? In b4 "QQ" "cry moar" etc, I sold my accounts so cry about that bitches.

[fredjanx]

the old Standard was better...

this

[Siniroth]

The only thing I got out of this thread was "Why would anyone trash on Izzy? "

[Akisu]

Glorious had app users...

By "had" I'll assume you mean the ones I kicked awhile ago. You know, the ones you recruited. Like Azula, or Littely (whatever her name was.) Kamien, hey, even Chop's girl was removed from our shell, what's her name again, Kiani? Oh, yeah, Naratu too. I could go on and list more of your current/past roster we've filtered out of our shell, but it's not... that relevant to the issue.

If you can actually prove that there's other members running apps, then I'll remove them, and maybe you can get yourself more recruits! We actually kick people for cheating; not encourage it and brag about it. If that makes us a bad linkshell, then hey, great, we'll be a bad linkshell by your guys standards.

But hey, seriously, if you want to discuss my linkshell, or problems with my members, feel free to send me a PM (either here, or on my website's forums). The issue on this thread is about you and haze, and the stuff you guys like to pull around here in the past, and on phoenix server itself, wasn't it? I just put my personal input and experience into the issues I've seen or experienced caused by both of your shells. If you would like to respond with something other than "you suck" "we're better" or the typical "everyone does it!" responces, maybe something can come out of this besides an overflowing cup of drool, because I'm pretty sure that I'm not the only one completely sick of both of your shell's crap and would love to see it put to an end one way or another.

And Enoch- Armada it self wasn't pulled into anything. The responces were to your old leader, who attacked one of my own, and happens to be a member of Volume now. Not entirely sure where you see anyone dragging your linkshell into anything, feel free to quote it to me in a PM if you like, maybe I can send you some of the PMs I've had on my own forum from ex-armada mebers, and I'll assume current armada members as well, sending me private applications mentioning their feelings for Yabai and Armada. But I would assume it's best not to derail a subject for Armada, as like you said, it doesn't have anything to do with either Haze or Armada.

[Yabby]

i attacked someone? O you are talking about the butthurt people whining about other LS's destroying end game? And people who are kicked from a LS end up hating the leader, you should know that. Should i really get into the people who came to armada from your shell? Really, grow up.

[Shin Volcano]

lol wat? Didn't you get the message? I am the most important thing on BG. Still failing T3s btw? In b4 "QQ" "cry moar" etc, I sold my accounts so cry about that bitches.

Yet you applied to the shell...i like the ironing here.

however....

the bolded part was all i cared about.

[Chopchop]

I'm Still lol'ing Akisu. So let me get this straight, we wiped to a lambton worm because a Dark purposely mt'd something that is physically impossible if you had half a brain would understand and we all ran to where ever it is you go to change our title. Damn only if we had that Drk in the fight to stun we would of won.... and those drops we had in my bazaar just magically appeared there that day. Please tell your b/f Helm to stop crying to my members and trying to recruit them, they would never downgrade.

[Zazel]

Edited, Gus covered it.

[Gustave]

Tell me this akisu.. Why does helm enter sw zones and go straight to sw deathspots.. I'm not sure if you know how app or apradar work with sw but you can ask Helm to explain it to you. In before ap radar is not botting.

[Gustave]

Oh when I said had app I was saying they didn't anymore because it was /shutdown.

[Zazel]

@Izzy--Why do Bahav2 Legit when you can do it like this.
YouTube - Bahamut V2

[Aurania]

I seem to remember having a conversation with you after Roxxy decided to mouth off about my shell. You seemed to insist that I was "stupid" among other insults because I lead a LS that does endgame and HNM, not just Dynamis. You also seemed to post on Dynamisbums in the past "lol"ing at the drama that comes with the major "endgame shells."

So tell me, how did your LS respond do you dumping them on their face to join one of those "lol" shells you talked down all the time to? And Volume at that? /Golf clap. Don't debate with me until you can at least say that you're not a flaming hypocrite. So yeah, if you're going to cheat, bot, trash-talk constantly, spend the time to make mules to harrass me, or my friends, buy/sell accounts after it's obvious you've been banned several times; then you can take a hike, the server doesn't need trash like that. Hope you don't give them your login info Yabai, that nifty little horn of you might go the way of the LM-17 when they start POS hacking you all over to different HNM camps when you can't be online yourself. But hey, it's ok. I'm sure they'll just buy you a replacement.

You know what? Get the fuck out with your assumptions. You have ZERO idea why our shell decided to end things and you have ZERO idea of how long the decision took to make, regardless of what you THINK you know or have heard from other people. Don't fucking sit there and assume that Yabai and Yabai alone made the decision so he could jet off to join HNM, moron, because I assure you, you are 100% mistaken. Just because he was the figurehead doesn't mean that he called every shot like a dictator.

The ONLY people privy to that information are the leaders, the people who can actually comprehend chat logs, and the people who spoke with us individually to discern why and how the decision was made. I don't give two shits what information you *think* you know third-hand, because it doesn't mean shit and it's not based on fact. So don't come in here with some bullshit about the leaders "dumping" their own shell to join an HNM shell, because that is NOT what happened, regardless of what any of your new members might say or think. That is their opinion and it is not based on fact.

So before you call people a flaming hypocrite, how about you stand in their shoes, know every goddamn decision underlying the switch, have a fucking discussion with people, and get your facts straight. How about this - when determining what we wanted to do with our in-game time post-Armada, we ruled OUT every other shell for myriad reasons, ass. Besides, you stepping in here and joining drama that has zero to do with your shell while condemning people who say drama is "lol" isn't hypocritical? Gtfo.

Joining an HNM for reasons that are a) none of your goddamn business, and b) none of your goddamn business, has NOTHING, literally NOTHING, to do with how one feels about the drama associated with such shells. Saying the drama is lol is not the same as saying the shell is lol. I still maintain that the drama associated with major endgame is pretty lol. It's inescapable at this stage in the game and I DARE you to find any server with more than one major shell that does not have their share of drama.

And how fucking dare you accuse people, without any basis to do so, of "cheating, botting, trash-talking constantly, spending the time to make mules, buying/selling accounts." The only bit of the above that would actually concern you is if someone actually did harass you. Yabai has not done so, so fucking leave his, and my, name out of this. With respect to the other alleged offenses, it's none of your fucking business what other people are doing in game when it doesn't affect you. Why you are even in here posting when this whole flame war concerns Haze and Volume, involving situations in which your shell was nowhere to be seen. So yeah, don't talk about our business until YOU can prove you aren't a flaming hypocrite.

[Helm]

You must be pretty retarded if you think you need anything to know the general pop points for Sandworm. Run through them and eventually you'll find when you guys are, since you don't have the foresight to actually move the worm anywhere else. Despite your linkshell's best efforts to make us look "lolgimp" we've killed plenty of Sandworms both while volume was around and even long before Haze was formed. ;p

You can accuse me of whatever you want, I don't even use windower, however in all honesty what does it matter? Posting on BG that you use app or bot doesn't garner any attention, nor do the majority of people give a shit. You guys practically run around shouting, "Look at us! we use Kaces and claim shit! We're so awesome you noobs!" Anyone here care that doesn't already think a lot of you guys are a bunch of pricks? No, probably not. Trying to defend myself from botting accusations would be inane; I don't bot, but no one has any reason to care or believe that statement, nor would they care even if it was true.

I think a large issue people have with your shell is that your leadership goes around trying to pick fights thinking they're tough shit cause they can spend money on a bot. Woooo It's just a waste of time having to blacklist the mules named shit like asdfiofhaah or glooriussux you make to harass our members because we have you blocked, or having to deal with your MPKing which a few people in Haze have already mentioned.

And chop, I've made it fairly clear our LS wants nothing to do with your members. While I'm sure your ls has some people in it that aren't e-thugs like yourself who go around trying to threaten to kill people over a game, people like yourself make your LS like garbage. You've attempted to get several fake apps into our site, shouted in whitegate for people to send me messages because I have you blocked, attempted to bribe members to get me to unblock you/join your shell/suck you off - honestly at this point I'm pretty sure you have some sort of social disorder. Either that, or you just enjoy trying to troll everyone, which honestly I wouldn't be surprised, but I think that's probably more credit than you deserve.

[Aurania]

Twice in this thread someone from Glorious has tried to pull Armada and its recent changes into this overhyped haze/volume lulz-non-drama. Being a member of Armada both before and after the recent changes, my response to that is simply... the changes to our shell didn't require any sort of drama thread like the one we're participating in right now.

Nor does the decision of *some* of the Armada leaders to join Volume have anything to do with the OP, the defacement of Haze's site by their own site admin, the ensuing non-drama, or any of the other bullshit discussion in this thread about server transfers, Phoenix natives, and assorted douchebaggery.

Thank you, Enoch.