NFL Week 6: It's a gimme.

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[Marootsoobutsu]

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They're still a combined 0-39 against the rest of the NFL. And the only teams the Giants have beaten are on that list.

The Cowboys haven't lost to any of the teams on the list (unless you include the Giants...), and the Lions haven't lost to any of the teams on the list. So, the Giants fit all the criteria.

[Mizango]

You sound like a Dallas fag fan, is this true?

[Marootsoobutsu]

Me? Nope. I just hate New Jersey. I'm a Broncos fan. The only team in the NFC East I can morally root for is the Eagles, since they're the only ones that didn't beat us in the Super Bowl

[Olo401]

So Limbaugh is blaming everyone but himself for being dropped from the main group interested in buying the Rams now. Oh the lulz that come out of his mouth.

Rush Limbaugh says NFL, union made example of him - NFL - SI.com

This fat fuck made an example of himself. I wouldn't be surprised if the only reason he did this was to drum up publicity for his 15 hours of hate speech every week..

Oh, and by disclosing names of potential NFL franchise owners he probably violated a confidentiality agreement with the league.

[Mizango]

Me? Nope. I just hate New Jersey. I'm a Broncos fan. The only team in the NFC East I can morally root for is the Eagles, since they're the only ones that didn't beat us in the Super Bowl

Ahh, so Kyle Ortons still bringin' niggas out the wood works or what?

[Mizango]

Team Jesus is packed to capacity atm.

[MrW]

I liked Terrell Davis back in the day. Can I has Broncos fan?

[Kyreth]

KINGS OF SHIT HILL

If you're going to be stuck with the shit, better to be on top than buried face-down. Dallas is still mediocre at best, considering what KC did to them.

[Resin]

I liked Terrell Davis back in the day. Can I has Broncos fan?

Dude, fuck Miami and the Wildcat; it's just a gimmick anyway. Let's all jump on the Denver train! Who else is in? Miz? Tyche?

[tyven]

i've been down with denver since the boss mcdaniels hiring

[Mizango]

I liked Terrell Davis back in the day. Can I has Broncos fan?

lol

[Mizango]

Dude, fuck Miami and the Wildcat; it's just a gimmick anyway. Let's all jump on the Denver train! Who else is in? Miz? Tyche?

NO WAI I HAET DENVER

[Mizango]

No but seriously, I used to collect Kyle Orton football cards from when he was at Purdue and in Chicago. Its like I have an entire collection of just Fleer Orton, its great.

When he goes to the HoF ill be rich as fuck.

^ This will prove to be my front for my plan to by the Cowboys and get "Operation Jasper" off the ground.

[Olo401]

lol @ the tags

[Mizango]

Yeah the tags are awesome lol

[Chun Liroy]

lol @ the tags

Oh god I just laughed pretty hard at them

[Abandon]

Oh GOD, Operation Jasper. I'm glad I even brought that place up, might be the best plan I've had a part of.

[Penthesilea]

The Eagle's game was, though, just a case of one team beating the hell out of another team. The Saints were forcing the Eagles to take FGs; the Eagles were allowing TDs, and field position this, field position that... it's important, no doubt, the Eagles just flat out got beat up in the red zone. Field position matters a hell of a lot more in defensive struggles than it really does in shoot-outs.... in shoot-outs like that game, you *have* to stop the other team from a high red zone production, and that's where the Eagle's failed miserably.

I didn't do the analysis, but I agree with it.

Did the defense really play that bad?

If you're going strictly by the scoreboard, then yes. The more thoughtful answer is probably not. Check out the Saints drive-by-drive.

0-0 starting @ NO 26, 15:00 1st qtr - 8 plays, touchdown
7-0 starting @ NO 20, 9:03 1st qtr - 3 and out
7-7 starting @ NO 47, 5:15 1st qtr - 9 plays, field goal
10-7 starting @ NO 20, 0:57 1st qtr - interception
10-10 starting @ NO 30, 2:38 2nd qtr - 3 and out
10-10 starting @ NO 46, 1:20 2nd qtr - 2 plays, touchdown
17-13 starting @ PHI 22, 14:49 3rd qtr - 3 plays, touchdown
24-13 starting @ PHI 24, 12:58 3rd qtr - 4 plays, touchdown
31-13 starting @ NO 23, 10:26 3rd qtr - 11 plays, field goal
34-13 starting @ NO 27, 0:29 3rd qtr - 3 and out
34-13 starting @ NO 48, 12:50 3rd qtr - 6 plays, touchdown
41-20 starting @ NO 5, 5:12 4th qtr - 3 and out

New Orleans only had one touchdown drive over 54 yards. Two longer Saints drives stalled with goal to go. Four times, the offense went three and out, each time starting no closer than their own 30-yard line. Their average starting field position for the day was at their own 37.

Turnovers, special teams miscues, and penalties were far more responsible for the high score than the Eagles defense. Of course it would have been nice if they came up with at least one big stop when the Saints had a short field, but the Saints have an elite offense that is going to capitalize more often than not when starting at midfield, or better yet, in their opponent's zone. The Eagles lost the field position battle, one of the underrated yet fundamental aspects of the game, and their defense looked silly as a result.

What about the pass rush though?

Understand Drew Brees was sacked a total of 13 times all season in '08. The Eagles got to him twice on Sunday. Not coincidentally, the Saints were forced to punt both times.

After Trent Cole blindsided the quarterback on their second possession, he was chipped and doubled the remainder of the game. That effort combined with Brees's quick release and pocket presence makes him a tough customer back there. He's just not someone who is going to spend the day rolling around in the grass.

That said, this is where not having a productive pass rushing interior lineman really hurts the Eagles. Brees is generously listed at six feet, and any kind of decent pressure in his face makes it more difficult for him to see down the field. They didn't have that on Sunday, and it's fair to say maybe that was an issue. They arguably should have blitzed up the middle (or in general) more frequently, but that's when Brees really starts to carve up a defense.

The bigger question here is how Joselio Hanson (5'9") wound up in one-on-one coverage against Marques Colston (6'3")?

What if they played it again?

The Eagles, particularly with a healthy Donovan McNabb, still look like a decent team. The Saints appear destined for a return to the playoffs. It's not far-fetched to envision a scenario where these two squads meet in January.

Don't get too caught up in the final score. When they went into the locker room, the spread was only 17-13. It was 10-10 at the two minute warning. This was a tight game until two turnovers in Eagles territory basically handed the Saints 14 points, otherwise it had the feel of a game that was going down to the wire.

In other words, the Saints were beatable. Right now, the Eagles have to work on eliminating the number of stupid penalties they take (still with the illegal formations?), particularly on special teams where they racked up five out of their seven total flags for the day. Clean it up, protect the ball, and the outcome might be different next time.

The700Level.com - Philly Sports & Minutiae: Questions Emerge After Saints Dismantle Eagles

[Resin]

No but seriously, I used to collect Kyle Orton football cards from when he was at Purdue and in Chicago. Its like I have an entire collection of just Fleer Orton, its great.

When he goes to the HoF ill be rich as fuck.

^ This will prove to be my front for my plan to by the Cowboys and get "Operation Jasper" off the ground.

But everyone knows you'd never actually sell anything even remotely connected to Orton! It's a paradox!