NFL Week 6: It's a gimme.

[Mizango]

Vince dancing? Nashville restaurants don't have a no shirt, no niggas, no service policy?

[Weltall]

An Orton picture would be epic....

[Tyche]

Holy shit, if that picture wasn't against a white wall....


Welt, your sister is a spitting image of you, I could never have sex with her. Back to Cody's mom...

[Correction]

Holy shit, if that picture wasn't against a white wall....

Tested that theory, turns out it's wrong

http://i33.tinypic.com/2cyi910.jpg

FOR SCIENCE!

[Rem]

lol

[Sol-Blackguy]

I just hate when a team is trying to drive down the field because time is expiring and they throw go routes simply because there will be a pass interference call for a 40 yard gain. Also, I wish the league would stop protecting quarterbacks. Running backs get hit 30-40x per game and get right back up. A QB gets a slight nudge on the helmet or below the knees and it's a 15 yard penalty? That's ridiculous. I want to see football devolve back into the gridiron sport it once was. Sometimes, late at night, I dream of Dan Marino's #'s if the rules were slanted towards offense during his tenure...

Only thing that really irks me is the roughing calls. I've seen linemen push linebackers into their QB to intentionally get a flag. Pussy of the year award though should go to Chris Hanson for holding his leg out to fucking bait people.

[Weltall]

lololololo

[Mizango]

Tested that theory, turns out it's wrong

http://i33.tinypic.com/2cyi910.jpg

FOR SCIENCE!

HAHA

[Akiyama]

Amazing shopping work. Two cakes.

[Nystul]

I just hate when a team is trying to drive down the field because time is expiring and they throw go routes simply because there will be a pass interference call for a 40 yard gain. Also, I wish the league would stop protecting quarterbacks. Running backs get hit 30-40x per game and get right back up. A QB gets a slight nudge on the helmet or below the knees and it's a 15 yard penalty? That's ridiculous. I want to see football devolve back into the gridiron sport it once was. Sometimes, late at night, I dream of Dan Marino's #'s if the rules were slanted towards offense during his tenure...

I wouldn't mind PI being changed to a 15 yard penalty like in college. Thats a lot of yards to give up to a "he MIGHT have caught the ball" penalty.

In regards to QB VS RB, the RB is prepared for the hit, wears more padding, etc. There is a huge difference between the RB Running head first into a linebacker and the DE coming around the corner unprotected and hitting the QB. Secondly, The size, strength and speed of guys is vastly different. In 1984, lineman were a lot smaller. THere are LINEBACKERS now the size of OL players from that era. An average team of 2009 would dominate the best team from 1980 because of the line play. Skill player talent is, relatively, consistent but it doesn't matter how good the QB is if the line can't keep him protected.

There was one guy on the WHOLE TEAM of the 84 niners (who beat the fins in the superbowl that year) that was over 300- a NT weighing in at 310. Most D linemen were in the 245-260 range. By contrast, the steelers from last year had linebackers that were the same size. The linemen averaged over 300. The impact when a QB gets blindsided today is vastly different than it was 20 years ago.

By that notion, the NFL wants to protect it's stars. There is no doubt that the Patriots viewership nationally was down last year and it was an 11-5 team! Mat Cassell does not bring in the same interest as Brady. The biggest stars in the league are QB's and WRs, the two positions that are regularly in "defenseless" positions with the ball. The league is wisely trying to protect it's product. Star QB's out with concussions and such doesn't put asses in seats.

[Plow]

Even without the size, 4 words: Troy Aikman, Steve Young.

5 more years each out of just the 2 of them would absolutely have been worth having the more modern protections in 20 years ago.

[Plow]

Also, to reinforce the size difference and the speed at which it's changed:

Mike Golic was considered a big DT. Not huge, but above average.

I have a 1992 card that lists him at 6'5, 275.


Kris Jenkins is 6'4, 360.

Albert Haynesworth is 6'6, 350.


Jared Allen is a DE. These are the fast, extremely athletic guys that don't just fall on people, they knock the living shit out of them, sometimes completely unexpected square in the back...

He's 6'6, 270. Basically the same size as Golic, who was the slow fat guy clogging up run lanes type just over 15 years ago.

[Tyche]

How long it takes Jeff Fisher to get a job if the Titans fire him...over/under: 1 day

Tennessee Titans coach Jeff Fisher wears Indianapolis Colts Peyton Manning jersey at charity event - ESPN

When he introduced Dungy, Fisher took off his jacket and shirt, revealing a Manning Colts jersey underneath, saying, "I just wanted to feel like a winner."

So awesome.

[Gadritan]

LOL

[Mizango]

Yeah I saw that on Sportscenter last night rofl.

[Tyr]

HAH =D

Oh jeff

[tyven]

jeff fisher is the man. never been a titans fan but always loved fisher, sucks to see him failing so hard this year

[Meepein]

To go further on the size changes in the NFL in the last 20 years, remember William 'The Refridgerator' Perry? He got that nickname cause people said that's how huge he was, and he was a big guy at 6'2", 335lbs. Bigger than anyone around at the time, and still big for today's game. And the Bears had a great amount of success when he was playing well (including the '85 Super Bowl.) Now, this is not to say he was the only cog in that defense, but he was a reason why they were so dominant.

The biggest knock on the Fridge was that he was fat and slow, which he was. He was never in any kind of shape, he was just a huge, fat guy that could use his weight to stop freight trains. And score TD's in the Super Bowl.

In today's game, we have someone like Vince Wilfork, who is about the same size as the Fridge was (6'2", 330lbs.) The difference? Whereas the Fridge was a slow fatass who had about a 2 foot range, Wilfork can (and has) chased down QB's and is far more athletic than the Fridge ever thought of being. Put Wilfork on that 85 Bears team instead of the Fridge and, really, they would have been completely unstoppable. And Wilfork is not even the best in the league (hell, you could make the argument that he is not even the best in his division.)

And the sick thing? Back 20 years ago, the Fridge is the only guy I can remember being that huge. Nowadays, I think every team has at least 1 humongous dude on their team, many have multiples, since now DE's are getting huge too. What was once an oddity is now common place.

So, yeah, defensive players are much bigger, and more athletic than 20 years ago. If they did not offer some protection to a QB, you would be seeing major injuries happen at an alarming rate (not talking knee injuries, talking head/neck stuff, things that are life threatening.) They have gone a bit far with the ticky-tack penalties (brushing the face mask is not a 'blow to the head'), but the intent is to keep players on the field and out of the hospital.

[Plow]

And score TD's in the Super Bowl.

Best Super Bowl moment ever.

[Tyr]

Good point

Better safe than sorry. It's like people in my fantasy league who wish injuries on opposing players...come on now, these are peoples' livelihoods/health on the line. I don't mind being overly cautious when it comes to health related issues -- i.e. protecting a defenseless receiver, etc. Ticky-tacky calls are annoying when it's a severely questionable DPI call, or something of that sort. But when bodies start flying, I'm all for more protection.