Crafting; Misc. Info & Spreadsheet

[arus2001]

Now that I recall, dialogue from the Alchemy test for 400 made it sound like you can only take one craft to 450. Is that the case, or is it two? Could've sworn I saw someone say the latter around at some point during beta phase.

[Pooky]

Now that I recall, dialogue from the Alchemy test for 400 made it sound like you can only take one craft to 450. Is that the case, or is it two? Could've sworn I saw someone say the latter around at some point during beta phase.

As of 1.5 you can master two crafts.

[arus2001]

Hmm, quest chat must not have been updated, then. Guess I need to decide what to do alongside my alchemy.

[Koga]

0 DP Results

20/75 Thick Luxurious Leather Pad (26.6%)
9/20 Worthy Noble Thick Leather Gloves. (45%)

30.52% HQ Rate Overall.

[Gryffes]

You have to get your first craft to 449 before you can get the second craft from 399>400.

[RKenshin]

This one was actually pretty time-consuming to get to where it is now, but it has been incredibly useful for me thus far.

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9185/ffxi597.th.jpg

Added it to the main post. Please feel free to test the accuracy of the equations/data there, I've done a few quick run-throughs and found a lot that I've fixed up to this point. I'd imagine there could be more though; haven't exhausted it yet. I'll update the upload if I find more/anyone finds any.

Same deal as before, red fields are the only fields you change (to reflect your server's/current broker prices and amounts you wish to craft). Sheets for potions, scrolls, and manastones.

[arus2001]

Hmm, I'd be curious to set up the Alchemy one, but since I don't have Excel and I don't think the free viewers let you edit content, what would I need to run the spreadsheet?

[Koga]

Hmm, I'd be curious to set up the Alchemy one, but since I don't have Excel and I don't think the free viewers let you edit content, what would I need to run the spreadsheet?

OpenOffice.

Get it.

[arus2001]

Ugh, plugging numbers in with prices on my server is depressing. 50 Greater Running Scrolls is like 5k profit. Attack +5 manastones cost about 7k to make, but HQ rates make profit maybe 10k at most. RMT are strong with this one.

[Pyree]

I was told by a member of my legion that someone from NCsoft confirmed that DP doesn't affect crafting, but he couldn't seem to find the source again, and I couldn't find it to begin with. Has anyone else seen an actual source behind this?

[RKenshin]

As an update, after the crafting exp buff... leveling a single craft from 0 to 399 will now get you from level 10 to 25 and a half without doing anything other than work orders.

I just did this on my sin. Planning to level another from 0 to 399, though I probably won't be able to resist playing around in PvE some before it finishes. I'd imagine that going from 0-399 in two crafts would at least get you to 30 though at this rate.

I was told by a member of my legion that someone from NCsoft confirmed that DP doesn't affect crafting, but he couldn't seem to find the source again, and I couldn't find it to begin with. Has anyone else seen an actual source behind this?

It was posted on the official aion wiki website for a while, but there are debates over whether it was true or false (it being a wiki, though it doesn't seem to be editable by anyone other than NCSoft staff?). Hard to really say either way.

It's so easy to get full DP though I just craft with it anyway; not like it hurts.

[LurkaKitty]

As an update, after the crafting exp buff... leveling a single craft from 0 to 399 will now get you from level 10 to 25 and a half without doing anything other than work orders.

I just did this on my sin. Planning to level another from 0 to 399, though I probably won't be able to resist playing around in PvE some before it finishes. I'd imagine that going from 0-399 in two crafts would at least get you to 30 though at this rate.

About how long does this take?

[RKenshin]

About how long does this take?

Hard to say, did it entirely in between watching movies/tv shows, on and off work, internet browsing, etc, over about four days last week. Maybe around 15-20 hours total?

[LurkaKitty]

Wow nice, thanks for sharing

[RKenshin]

Just finished a Cooking spreadsheet as well.

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/6158/ffxi613.th.jpg

There's also a sheet for expert 400+ cooking.

[Pyree]

Gathered the data that I could from this topic, but I want much more if people could post their results or PM them to me. Here's what I've gathered for HQ rates so far:

HQ rates that seem to be appearing:
Alchemy - Enchantment Stones: 15%
Cooking - Cooking: 25%
Tailoring - Other: 25%
The rest require much more data.
I'm not convinced that DP has any affect at all, but still gathering data to verify.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...fting_1130.jpg

And if people want to contribute to my research, you can post here or send me a PM with your results, but I ask that you follow these rules:

1. Post only in the format given below, and provide all information accurately.
   Item:
   DP:
   NQ Count:
   HQ Count:
2. Do not post results for a craft that is not able to HQ.
3. If you fail while attempting the NQ synthesis, exclude the results.
4. If you fail while attempting the HQ synthesis, record it as a successful HQ.
5. Do not post results for someone else. Post only your own results.
6. If you're going to post here, post your crafting results consistently. I want to avoid cases where people are really excited about getting lucky and getting a 50% HQ rate, so they post in excitement, and cases where people are pissed about getting a 5% HQ rate and want to complain. Posting only under those circumstances will throw the data off.

[Corwen]

I'm pretty sure DP doesn't do anything for crafting, or if it does, its extremely small (like 1-2% higher HQ rate). I stopped keeping track but after over 1000 crafts each that I did keep track on with 0 and 4k DP on the same items (Strong and Tough leather pads), the results were basically the same. In fact, I had a slightly higher overall percentage on 0 DP (24.2%) than 4k(23.9%) which i'm sure is due to luck.

The statement that DP affects crafting HQ rates was also removed from the powerwiki like a month ago. Unless somebody can post some substantial data that contradicts mine, I think it is pretty much disproven.

[Pyree]

I believe you, but I want to keep track of it for now to disprove it with some more solid data. I'd like to collect data from a few more categories before I completely dismiss it.

I will add another column of data that combines both my 0 DP and 4000 DP results, though, because that's really easy and would be more informative given the assumption that DP does not affect crafting is true. I'm busy at the moment, but I'll post the updated screenshot when this change has been implemented.

[LurkaKitty]

Xilix textile crafting just now:
4000 DP
280 Xilix textiles
55 Fine Xilix textiles
17 Superb Xilix textiles

[aers]

Item: Tough Leather Pad
0 DP
4742 Total
3500 NQ
1242 HQ (932 HQ1, 310 HQ2)

Item: Tough Hat
4000 DP
100 Total
77 NQ
33 HQ

I've made more than this many Tough Hats but I can't remember the HQ numbers :\
Dunno if it's worth noting but the HQ2 rate was roughly 25% of the total HQs, mirroring the HQ critrate.