What's Better?

[Darlantan]

Trying to figure out what I should do on War.
Currently 73.
Sergeant Assault, working towards Perdu.
Mage main, not getting rid of Tamas so Rajas is out of the question.
Need +7 stp to be able to 6 hit right?
So Ecphoria+brutal+Askar body would give me that.
Have 2 Sniper+1s for TP currently. is it worth it to give up one of them for the ecphoria?

No. With a 504 delay weapon such as Perdu Voulge and most good great axes, you need a total of 22 stp for a true 6-hit. Without subbing Samurai (15stp) its mostly out of the questions unless you do big sacrifices gear and food wise. Subbing Samurai, you would need 7 stp. Some people go with 6 (Rajas and Brutal), and hope for a good ws tp return, thus being able to use a better neck piece than chiv. chain (ancient torque, pcc, etc) or better rings than ecphoria (blitz, acc+7 ring). Figthing colibris or other mobs that erase your tp is usually better to have enough for a true X-hit though, unless you are OCD enough to have a macro you can hit for extra stp in case you get your tp from ws return removed.

Rajas being out of the question because of Tamas is plain silly, but I will leave it at that, I am sure you have read and discussed the topic many times before. Askar body to replace rajas is a terrible choice in most scenarios, you should try to get Aurum body or Rose Strap and something else instead as the acc loss is just too big, but shit depends. If you didnt get Rajas, two Sniper's+1 are cool, have a ecphoria ready in case you are doing Colibris and the like as explained above. If you had Rajas you could have a decent body piece (with acc!) and pair it with Blitz ring in many situations being better and cheaper than your two whiteboxed Sniper's, although keeping one for harder stuff you dont cap with pizza would be the way to go.

[Mikus]

About to start building a Drk zerg set. Wondering about weapons. I'm understanding it's: kc>mk>ridill>bs> or something similar to that. I do not currently have any of those weapons but will at the very least be working towards a MK. I do have a Ferrera and Fortitude Axe(8/8 GA merits).

Should I start by using one of these weapons or would a Republican Dagger be better for my baby zerg build?

[Meat]

get an oclub and a sync mule, preferable a brd

[EternalSnow]

On rdm for evis ws would golaird clogs be better to ws in or would dusk feet be better?

[Nameless]

I would use ares for Spinning slash/spiral hell as they won't need the attack from Cuisses (afaik they have a boost to attack)

For Guillotine, as has been said, it is close. But one thing to consider, on some mobs you will have capped attack (this is pretty easy on birds, nyzul, salvage mobs with dia II and/or chaos roll). And at this point again, the attack is doing nothing for you, so I would used ares.

But on anything with decent amount of defence (so not likely to cap attack) then Cuisses will probably be better (unless you have attack buffs out the ass pushing you over 750 attack).

In situation where you would be using Spinning slash is against higher def mobs, so the chance of you capping attack after the ratio bonus is still small. Also, Ares got 1 more str but -3 int which is also a mod for SS (sort of offsetting each other). The 2% DA is also downgraded due to DA hits carry a 1.0 ftp instead of the 2.5 ftp @ 100% tp for SS. So your DA hits are going to be 40% of your first hit. 2% x .4 = .8%, not even a 1% increase in your overall WS damage. Not to mention since you would be ignoring ACC thanks to the ACC bonus of all first hit of a WS, your DA hit will have very bad ACC on any meaningful mobs, downgrading the 2% DA even more. In the end, that 2% DA is probably about .5% increase in your overall WS damage. I would prefer the attack honestly, tho if you like to use SS on weaker mobs, then the extra attack wouldn't do anything, so Ares would be the better choice there.

[lolwut]

On rdm for evis ws would golaird clogs be better to ws in or would dusk feet be better?

I'd personally say Orge Ledelsens+1 or Rutter Sabatons. The attack has always done better for me than Dex. Of course that's just eyeballing returns, disregard if you want math.

[Alvinho]

lolBLU, etc.

I was wondering I'm better off using STR earrings on WS, instead of Suppa/Brutal for Savage Blade, Expiacion, and Vorpal, and also, if these look ok:


Expiacion:

Morrigan's Coronal
Peacock Charm (No Soil Gorget yet)
Suppanomimi
Brutal Earring
Morrigan's Robe
Alkyoneus's Brc.
Flame Ring x2
Smilod. Mantle +1
Warwolf Belt
Morrigan's Slops
Morrigan's Pigaches

Savage Blade:

Morrigan's Coronnal
Thunder Gorget
Suppanomimi
Brutal Earring
Morrigan's Robe
Alkyoneus's Brc.
Flame Ring x2
Smilodon Mantle +1
Warwolf Belt
Morrigan's Slops
Morrigan's Pigaches

Vorpal Blade:

Morrigan's Coronal
Thunder Gorget
Suppanomimi
Brutal Earring
Enkidu's Harness
Enkidu's Mittens (I use these these instead of Alky's because there's no DEX penalty, and Vorpal being a crit WS, I like to think the extra DEX should help some, though I may be wrong, since DEX is not a multiplier for Vorpal, and STR is).

Flame Ring x2
Cuchulain's Mantle
Warwolf Belt
Mirage Shalwar +1
Creek M Clomps

I realize Triumph Rings are better for Savage Blade (No MND penalty), but Flame Rings are better for Cannonball... and no way I'm buying/carrying 2 of each. Feel free to point out anything you see wrong with these sets, and make suggestions to make them better. Thanks.

Edit: Also, Taru, no STR merits, 8/8 Sword.

[ICilla_Dark]

I'm a taru with +78str /thf (Using food and hasso with justice, 73with snow)
Sorry for the late response XD

[Delayed]

No. With a 504 delay weapon such as Perdu Voulge and most good great axes, you need a total of 22 stp for a true 6-hit. Without subbing Samurai (15stp) its mostly out of the questions unless you do big sacrifices gear and food wise. Subbing Samurai, you would need 7 stp. Some people go with 6 (Rajas and Brutal), and hope for a good ws tp return, thus being able to use a better neck piece than chiv. chain (ancient torque, pcc, etc) or better rings than ecphoria (blitz, acc+7 ring). Figthing colibris or other mobs that erase your tp is usually better to have enough for a true X-hit though, unless you are OCD enough to have a macro you can hit for extra stp in case you get your tp from ws return removed.

Rajas being out of the question because of Tamas is plain silly, but I will leave it at that, I am sure you have read and discussed the topic many times before. Askar body to replace rajas is a terrible choice in most scenarios, you should try to get Aurum body or Rose Strap and something else instead as the acc loss is just too big, but shit depends. If you didnt get Rajas, two Sniper's+1 are cool, have a ecphoria ready in case you are doing Colibris and the like as explained above. If you had Rajas you could have a decent body piece (with acc!) and pair it with Blitz ring in many situations being better and cheaper than your two whiteboxed Sniper's, although keeping one for harder stuff you dont cap with pizza would be the way to go.

Sorry I meant to specify for /sam on the stp.
If i managed Aurum body then I could forgoe any of the other issues like chiv chain or ecphoria ring? would have +8 with aurum body and brutal. I assume this is what you meant. Carbonara could also be used when outside of colibri I guess

[machiko]

So they added the new Magic acc earrings, Helenus and cassandra both together give magic acc+5. Question is which is better for rdm and brd, for rdm it's either these 2 or an enfeeb+3 earring, for brd its these 2 or the +5 wind skill and a 3 chr earring.

Having camped and obtained them i'm not sure it was even really worth it lol

[mdkuser]

So they added the new Magic acc earrings, Helenus and cassandra both together give magic acc+5. Question is which is better for rdm and brd, for rdm it's either these 2 or an enfeeb+3 earring, for brd its these 2 or the +5 wind skill and a 3 chr earring.

Having camped and obtained them i'm not sure it was even really worth it lol

since you have to equip both, an enfeebling earring+ somethign else will still be better imo. also you can get macc+3 mnd+2 earrings from acp ( best possible), mac+2 relatively common.

[Starr]

Some questions about WAR WS...

1) For RR/KJ, each hit has a chance to Double Attack right? So with Warrior's Charge active, I should still keep some Double Attack gear on (i.e. Brutal's and Ares's Legs [in the case of KJ])?

2) When Mighty Strikes is active and using RR I should be stacking more STR/Attack right? I'm thinking in both merit and high-evasion/HNM situations. Switching out Haub+1 for Ares's Body, Heca Hands for Alky, Pixie Earring for Triumph or Assault, Thunder Ring for Flame Ring. And in the leg slot it's either switching out Haidate for either Hecatomb or Ares's. I'm not sure if I should be switching out the Haub+1 and Heca Hands without Aggressor up, but I'd assume my accuracy should still be capped with Pizza, not sure though.

3) On HNM's or in situations where I know I don't hit w/e Crit tier there is like I can with merit mobs, for RR should I replace some DEX+ items with STR+ items? Currently I only switch out Haidate for Hecatomb, but should I switch out Thunder Ring for Flame Ring, Pixie Earring for Assault or Triumph?

1. Yes
2. Only use KJ/SC with MS
3. Use all the DEX cus at worst it will give you more Accuracy which you will need for HNM anyway

[requim]

Pretty probable you wouldn't be getting more than 5 macc for rdm in the slot, however, enfeeb earring and stat earring would be roughly the same accuracy with more potency. The earrings are a pretty decent nuking pair though, similar to blm, while also being substantially cheaper.

Brd not only have musical earring, but also the +3 skill earrings, both of which could be full timed for enfeebling AND buffing.

[Falaras]

Askar Head or Optical Hat for: Raging Rush/Kings Justice.

[Onorgul]

What does the rest of your WS gear look like? That question can't be easily answered in a vacuum.

[Falaras]

For RR: Perdu Voulge/Pole Grip/Bomb Core/______/Snow Gorget/Hollow Earring/Brutal Earring/Haubergeon/Nhands/Rajas Ring/Flame Ring/Amemet +1/Warwolf/Byakkos/Nfeet.

For KJ: Perdu Voulge/Pole Grip/Bomb Core/____/Soil Gorget/+1 STR Aug Earring/Brutal Earring/Haubergeon/Pallas'/Rajas Ring/Flame Ring/Amemet +1/ Warwolf/Byakkos/Nfeet

[Crizto]

Askar, your ACC is fine.

[Falaras]

Alright, Thank you.

[Fryte]

Full Ares vs Ebody/N.head/Onyx Cuisses/Ares Hands/DRKAF+1feet for Guillotine. And I don't have Apocalypse.

[Karbuncle]

(i've looked through a few pages and may have missed it but)

For a DRG with limited choices atm, whats better for Melee

Assault Jerking
vs
Thrakon Brstplt

and for WS===============

STR+5 DEX+5 VIT+5
vs
Thrakon brstplt

seeing if its worth my time, probably going to get it anyway though.