What's Better?

[Arnavel]

With the below equip, should i stick to the DEX build or lean more towards STR/ACC?

Thasso
Rose Strap
Tiphia Sting (black talth out of price range atm)
Champions Galtetea (WS Acc / WS Dmg)
Light Gorget
Pixie Earring (change to fowling for birds?)
Brutal Earring
Zahak's Mail
Heca Gloves
Thunder Ring
Raja's Ring
Foragers Mantle
Warwolf Belt
Askar Dirs
Heca Boots

(on reflection this maybe better in the Random question post :s)

[Yugl]

With the below equip, should i stick to the DEX build or lean more towards STR/ACC?

Thasso
Rose Strap
Tiphia Sting (black talth out of price range atm)
Champions Galtetea (WS Acc / WS Dmg)
Light Gorget
Pixie Earring (change to fowling for birds?)
Brutal Earring
Zahak's Mail
Heca Gloves
Thunder Ring
Raja's Ring
Foragers Mantle
Warwolf Belt
Askar Dirs
Heca Boots

You'll want capped ACC regardless of what set you're using. This question heavily depends on race. If your DEX does not total 117, especially if it does not even come close, then you might as well use STR/ACC. Also, you should include merits into Polearm.

In short: Need race and merits before I can help you.

[Arnavel]

sorry, M Hume with capped polearm merits, capped crit %, attributes on int and mnd atm for my rdm but may switch

[Yugl]

With 41DEX, you're at 106DEX, which is not enough to bother with a DEX set at birds. Unless you can find 11DEX though other gear, it's likely you're not benefiting from a DEX build. This of course is in regards to birds, so anything else and you're obviously going to want a STR build judging by your current set up.

If you're going to look for gear to back up your DEX set up, I would recommend looking at gear for the following:
- Weapon (Fay Lance can yield more than 2 DEX)
- Helm (Heca Cap; Orc Helm maybe)
- Back (Cuchulains)
- Legs (Oily Trousers, Ares, Heca)


As for ACC, you're currently over the cap (Which isn't necessarily bad). However, if you do pursue a DEX build, you need to keep your ACC in mind. Just being DRG, having full merits, and 117DEX puts you at 16ACC short of the cap. This means you need to have 16ACC in your WS gear once you reach 117 DEX. How you net this 16ACC is up to you entirely.

[Arnavel]

With 41DEX, you're at 106DEX, which is not enough to bother with a DEX set at birds. Unless you can find 11DEX though other gear, it's likely you're not benefiting from a DEX build. This of course is in regards to birds, so anything else and you're obviously going to want a STR build judging by your current set up.

If you're going to look for gear to back up your DEX set up, I would recommend looking at gear for the following:
- Weapon (Fay Lance can yield more than 2 DEX)
- Helm (Heca Cap; Orc Helm maybe)
- Back (Cuchulains)
- Legs (Oily Trousers, Ares, Heca)


As for ACC, you're currently over the cap (Which isn't necessarily bad). However, if you do pursue a DEX build, you need to keep your ACC in mind. Just being DRG, having full merits, and 117DEX puts you at 16ACC short of the cap. This means you need to have 16ACC in your WS gear once you reach 117 DEX. How you net this 16ACC is up to you entirely.

Appreciate the info, will be a short while before i can achieve that dex.

In the meantime do you have suggestions on which gear to swap out? obviously pixie/thunder, id imagine to fowling/flame but the others seem less obvious.

[requim]

Minuet earring might do you better than fowling if you're already at acc cap since it does have 1 more dex.

Fay weapon holds higher potential stats than thal, so it would be something to work for (since you could get another base damage, another point of dex, and several str).

Besides weapon and flame ring there isn't really much to improve besides head/legs.

[Shamaya]

For thief-

Rapparee Harness or Enkidu Harness for TP

Generally speaking, Enkidu's. The gaps are actually kind of narrow, but for thief bodies you can think of it like ACP (3% DW, 10acc) > Homam > Enkidu's. When it comes to comparing Pahluwahn and SH+1 to Rapp, that's where you get into the "well maybe even if my acc isn't perfect, I should use Rapp instead.." zone.

If you're using pizza vs merit level mobs, you should still be using one of the acc bodies. Same case with crab sushi, I daresay.

Rapp is still a great body. If you're rocking double march and haste spell, you should use it vs Puks, for example. Similarly with those buffs you can get away with it on birds if your acc and haste equips really are good enough. Parsing can give you an idea.

Similarly use Rapp in salvage, nyzul, city dyna, sub merit-level mobs, zergs, during feint, and the like.

[Dathus]

Not sure if it's been asked here or not, been a while since I've posted in this thread.

Faith Torque or Lleu's Charm for COR?

[Callisto]

If you mean for ranged TP, Faith or QQ Collar, I'd say Lleu's would be third.

[Yugl]

With the below equip, should i stick to the DEX build or lean more towards STR/ACC?

Thasso
Rose Strap
Tiphia Sting (black talth out of price range atm)
Champions Galtetea (WS Acc / WS Dmg)
Light Gorget
Pixie Earring (change to fowling for birds?)
Brutal Earring
Zahak's Mail
Heca Gloves
Thunder Ring
Raja's Ring
Foragers Mantle
Warwolf Belt
Askar Dirs
Heca Boots

(on reflection this maybe better in the Random question post :s)

Appreciate the info, will be a short while before i can achieve that dex.

In the meantime do you have suggestions on which gear to swap out? obviously pixie/thunder, id imagine to fowling/flame but the others seem less obvious.

If you're using it in a purely ACC/STR set up, just go with pieces that offer high STR while maintaining your ACC.

Fay Lance (Should be done anyways)
Triumph Earring
Flame Ring
Aurum Legs

This is just a list of "easy" pieces, but you can also use items from the list I mentioned earlier

Heca Cap
Ares Legs

I honestly haven't looked at STR/ACC builds much since the question is usually one of DEX builds, and I've been short on time due to RL problems, but I'll probably start making DRG sets for each race at some point.

[Callisto]

this seems lulzy but I just realized that I'm 3 short of 117 and the only real options to get it are the body or neck slots...if acc is not a concern, would it be better to do Osode + Sea Gorget or Hauberk +1 + Spike Necklace?

[FailureMidgard]

this seems lulzy but I just realized that I'm 3 short of 117 and the only real options to get it are the body or neck slots...if acc is not a concern, would it be better to do Osode + Sea Gorget or Hauberk +1 + Spike Necklace?

I don't believe those are the only slots to get the dex, post your full set imo .

Or switch to sam.


(kidding on the 2nd part, you just seem to get pissed off whenever anyone mentions sam).

[Callisto]

Perdu/Pole/Bomblet
Galea/Neck/Hollow/Brutal
Body/Heca/Thunder/Thunder
Cuch/Warwolf/Haidate/Heca

Pixie isn't an option, N.Head isn't either. I'd just do lightning bow+1 if I could afford the acc in my other sets but that'd be stretching it, Elv, no merits.

Edit: I'd do SAM as well if I had Rajas/room for GKT merits, lol...but it'd be a merit job and having it without those seems incredibly unappealing.

[Yugl]

Perdu/Pole/Bomblet
Galea/Neck/Hollow/Brutal
Body/Heca/Thunder/Thunder
Cuch/Warwolf/Haidate/Heca

Pixie isn't an option, N.Head isn't either. I'd just do lightning bow+1 if I could afford the acc in my other sets but that'd be stretching it, Elv, no merits.

I'll try my best, but like I mentioned in media when I did this, I'm not familiar with WAR gear. With what you mentioned, it looks like the goal is:

54 ACC
52 DEX

http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=130238
With the hidden ACC, it comes to: 53 DEX and 44 ACC

With merits, you would easily cap ACC. You can probably get away with using that set posted since it's so close (8 ACC short...), but I would also be tempted to make a full ACC/STR KJ set as well.

Edit: Callisto, for SAM to work in merits, you need POLEARM merits. GKT is mostly for the higher tier monsters. So if you have those, then you just need the gear to back it up.

[Callisto]

I have the 15 WSAcc Galea, I currently cap Acc on RR without buffs/merits using Gorget/Hauberk+1, but I wanted to pop in another 3 DEX to cap when I had hasso up. With Berserk up I generally use KJ if I'm getting at least one other attack buff, but at low levels of attack I stick to RR.

Ideally I'd use Zahak's/Gorget but it's still going to be awhile before I have the means for that.

[Yugl]

http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=130238

Close call.

To make this easier to look at, it's essentially 91% ACC on LV82 Colibri and 93% ACC on LV81 Colibri.

The main question becomes 3% Critical hit v 2-4% ACC. I prefer gearing for the ACC, but you could always play the game of chance.

[Callisto]

Yeah I have a LB+1 sitting in storage, I'm more worried about the drop in acc during unbuffed TP than anything else, as well as the inability to use bomblet/sachet during KJ.

Edit: I guess for the time being I can simplify the question, what's better between 1 STR 12 Attack vs. Gorget fTP bonus for RR?

[Yugl]

Yeah I have a LB+1 sitting in storage, I'm more worried about the drop in acc during unbuffed TP than anything else, as well as the inability to use bomblet/sachet during KJ.

Edit: I guess for the time being I can simplify the question, what's better between 1 STR 12 Attack vs. Gorget fTP bonus for RR?

I would definitely wager on the gorget. It's essentially a 3.33% increase in damage.

[Dathus]

If you mean for ranged TP, Faith or QQ Collar, I'd say Lleu's would be third.

So it's Faith > Q_Q Collar then Lleu's? I thought the AGI would pull it closer to Faith.

[Callisto]

2 RAcc vs. 4 RAtk, your acc should be fine with Sushi/Pot with normal gear, but RAtk kinda comes at a premium for COR.