What's Better?

[Feedmenow]

RNG seems vastly more fun now that I think about no (actual) single weakness penalty and the potential behind that.

[Dathus]

Gotten kinda bored as DRG/Mage in campaign so I decided to work with a RDM/PLD set.

http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=132099

General melee attire, switch to Jelly Ring for campaign. Saving up points for my Cobra Crackows between Ixion fights.

Would Ethereal Earring get me any decent MP back from getting the shit kicked out of me, or would I just be better off spamming and keeping up Stoneskin?

[Argettio]

Gotten kinda bored as DRG/Mage in campaign so I decided to work with a RDM/PLD set.

http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=132099

General melee attire, switch to Jelly Ring for campaign. Saving up points for my Cobra Crackows between Ixion fights.

Would Ethereal Earring get me any decent MP back from getting the shit kicked out of me, or would I just be better off spamming and keeping up Stoneskin?

I normally Tank mobs on RDM/WAR with berserk up using only Phalanx and 20-25% PDT (Genbu, Patronus and some times Jelly... should get rajas) and have no problem surviving using Cure 4 every so often. MP is rarely an issue but obviously Ethereal Earring would make it less of a concern.

I use stoneskin as back up protection but rarely need it (unless I am feeling lazy/need to afk for 5mins).

[Shin Volcano]

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Are you joking, or is this a serious comment?

What?

Sigh, i guess not everyone has heard of "shutdown"

but regardless, this crap has gone on long enough, doesn't matter but back on topic


Would Alkatrops be better for helix spells? seeing as it is heavily INT based. disregarding resistant mobs since i normaly don't even bother with helix on those.

[Argettio]

Sigh, i guess not everyone has heard of "shutdown"

Persistent universe....

You can shut down, but the mob is still in game, the hate list is still here, and until the mob is dead or 'looking' for you (and failing) you remain on the hate list.

but regardless, this crap has gone on long enough, doesn't matter but back on topic

Would Alkatrops be better for helix spells? seeing as it is heavily INT based. disregarding resistant mobs since i normaly don't even bother with helix on those.

No, I doubt 15% will be beaten by 10 INT, but could be wrong (not got the time to do the maths)

[Shin Volcano]

Persistent universe....

You can shut down, but the mob is still in game, the hate list is still here, and until the mob is dead or 'looking' for you (and failing) you remain on the hate list.

Persistent indeed, i guess in addition to shut down hate diminishing is also unheard, since this is to hard to figure out, it's the fact that ENIMITY WILL DECREASE DURING YOUR TIME OFFLINE THUS YOU DON'T GET WAILED ON AS SOON AS YOU COME BACK. obviously you can't log out if you HAVE the hate (which is where some seem to think dying is a better option) let's drop it now.

No, I doubt 15% will be beaten by 10 INT, but could be wrong (not got the time to do the maths)

That would only apply to cryohelix since aquilo's has 5 INT +elemental skill, i'm speaking in regards to the other helix spells that staff does not support INT let's use hydrohelix for example.

[Cairthenn]

Sigh, i guess not everyone has heard of "shutdown"

but regardless, this crap has gone on long enough, doesn't matter but back on topic


Would Alkatrops be better for helix spells? seeing as it is heavily INT based. disregarding resistant mobs since i normaly don't even bother with helix on those.

Holy fuck kill yourself.

[Cairthenn]

Persistent indeed, i guess in addition to shut down hate diminishing is also unheard, since this is to hard to figure out, it's the fact that ENIMITY WILL DECREASE DURING YOUR TIME OFFLINE THUS YOU DON'T GET WAILED ON AS SOON AS YOU COME BACK. obviously you can't log out if you HAVE the hate (which is where some seem to think dying is a better option) let's drop it now. .

ENMITY WILL DECREASE THE SAME IF YOU JUST STAND THERE HURR DURR?

Edit: I meant to edit my post not post two.

[Darlantan]

Shin Volcano was epic.

[Shin Volcano]

Holy fuck kill yourself.

OH SHIT OK BRB any more dumb ass fucking comments? thanks for your retarded ass comment, give your self a clap.

WHILE YOU ARE GONE THE TANK HAS TIME TO GET HATE BACK DURING YOUR ABESENCE HURR HURR DURR DURR, seriously, didn't realize this type of stupidity was still around. fucking drop it already.

[Argettio]

OH SHIT OK BRB any more dumb ass fucking comments? thanks for your retarded ass comment, give your self a clap.

WHILE YOU ARE GONE THE TANK HAS TIME TO GET HATE BACK DURING YOUR ABESENCE HURR HURR DURR DURR, seriously, didn't realize this type of stupidity was still around. fucking drop it already.

VE decays at a fixed rate, nothing changes this, you can be logged in, logged out, you can disconnect from the internet, you can cut your phone lines and none of this will reduce your hate any faster.

So what is the point in logging out? Why not just stand still for a min? Go for a fag or grab a drink? WHY DO YOU HAVE TO LOG OUT?

We will drop it when you explain why logging out is better than afking or just sitting on your hands for an equal length of time.

[Cairthenn]

OH SHIT OK BRB any more dumb ass fucking comments? thanks for your retarded ass comment, give your self a clap.

WHILE YOU ARE GONE THE TANK HAS TIME TO GET HATE BACK DURING YOUR ABESENCE HURR HURR DURR DURR, seriously, didn't realize this type of stupidity was still around. fucking drop it already.

Oh dear god I must be being trolled. Someone please tell me if I'm walking over a bridge or I don't even know.

[Argettio]

Shin Volcano was epicly bad.

I missed this, but fixed

[Shin Volcano]

I think you will be forgiven in this case.

VE decays at a fixed rate, nothing changes this, you can be logged in, logged out, you can disconnect from the internet, you can cut your phone lines and none of this will reduce your hate any faster.

So what is the point in logging out?

See above, it's mainly a problem if the mob keeps turning to you, while you are loged tanks just build enimity, yes you'll still have hate but it gives you breathing room, never had to die to get rid of hate because it either died before it turned back, or the tanks were actually doing there job.

[drwaffles]

Just fuck off and die, BG doesn't need more complete retards.

[Cairthenn]

Your argument is terrible. You'll actually potentially lose more hate logged in than logged out unless you're trying to get hate.

[Shin Volcano]

Your argument is terrible. You'll actually potentially lose more hate logged in than logged out unless you're trying to get hate.

You should probably get better tanks then, cause it's never to this day been a problem for me, excuse me for being more effective, you're whole logic is terrible, going to say "go kill your self" again?

Just fuck off and die, BG doesn't need more complete retards.

That IS what BG is, thanks for proving who they are. When i actually see some maturity (lolrite)
i'll have a reason not to wail on noobs like this retard above.

[Cairthenn]

You should probably get better tanks then, cause it's never to this day been a problem for me, excuse me for being more effective, you're whole logic is terrible, going to say "go kill your self" again?

What do you mean it's never been a problem? That's just, mathematically, how it is. Stop posting.

[Argettio]

See above, it's mainly a problem if the mob keeps turning to you, while you are loged tanks just build enimity, yes you'll still have hate but it gives you breathing room, never had to die to get rid of hate because it either died before it turned back, or the tanks were actually doing there job.

I am no PLD, but I am 99% certain that they can build hate faster while they aren't the current target of the mob as they don't have to worry about shadows or any defensive stuff, just spam JAs/Spells/WS.

You are aware getting hit (either losing shadows or HP) reduces your CE?

[Shin Volcano]

What do you mean it's never been a problem? That's just, mathematically, how it is. Stop posting.

Yea, i am, because at this point, the level of stupidty and ignorance is far to great in people like you, if i have to explain how i don't have hate issues as rng and yes, can still do damage then it isn't worth it,

But here is a riddle for you, what Mob do you fight as RNG that stays alive that long that hate becomes so much a problem? excluding khimira and dark ixion, since hate with those 2 is pretty wild at times.

My adivce to you is to stop here.