What's Better?

[Shinryuu]

Actually, now that I think of it, you don't need to use Hachiman kote if you're TPing and WSing in Usukane feet. Use Dusk.

[Shin Volcano]

The only real usefulness for Alka is RDM debuffing and BLM Elemental DoTs if they can't hit the INT tier while still using HQ staves.

I'v heard of BRD using it to, dosn't work for them either? it's a pricy peice to get for just one job tho.

[Yarko]

This is pretty much what i was trying to explain in a more harsh way, if you were doing something for example that the mob kept turning to you you loged off, and during that time if the tank lost hate or at ANY random point the mob looked for you, you had a good chance of erasing hate, instead of just dying, only times i had needed to do it was when the mob would just randomly turn due to diminishing hate on tank or tanks,

So when you log back on, you had a good chance of hate being reset if the mob tried to look for you, but it sometimes fails if hate was not shifted during your absense. which is why i think he found dying to be easier, but it never became an issue for me. but i normaly just avoided that by a -enimity build. so either it looked for me at those points i loged off or hate was sustained long enough.


Also, still looking for feedback on Alakroups vs staffs for helix spells without INT on the staff like cryohelix, but rather say hydro or pyrohelix.

Seriously now, you proved several times with your posts you don't know how enmity works, so just give up... (quick explanation: the chances for the mob to "look" for you while you're logged off unless the tank is just standing there taking a beating are almost non existant)

As for the Polearm SAM topic, I use crab sushi as SAM/WAR too and averaged about 900 penta thrusts with love torque and 1 minuet, I guess 600 isn't that unlikely if you /nin I guess.

[Eole]

Actually, now that I think of it, you don't need to use Hachiman kote if you're TPing and WSing in Usukane feet. Use Dusk.

You do :3
Unless you own Usukane Haramaki.

For a 480 Delay Weapon to do 5-Hit, you need 54 Store TP on each hit.
54 - 25 (trait) - 10 (merits) = 19.

Rajas Ring + Brutal Earring + Usukane Sune-Ate = 13.
Rajas Ring + Brutal Earring + Usukane Sune-Ate + Usukane Haramaki = 19. => Winner.

So then, our TP Gear would look like :

ACC= 389
Hasso Hit Rate = 86%
Seigan Hit Rate = 81%
Haste 19%

waist "Swift Belt"
back "Cuchulain's Mantle"
hands "Dusk Gloves"
body "Usukane Haramaki"
ear1 "Brutal Earring"
ear2 "Fowling Earring"
ring1 "Toreador's Ring"
ring2 "Rajas Ring"
feet "Usukane Sune-Ate"
legs "Byakko's Haidate"
head "Walahra Turban"
neck "Peacock Charm"
ammo "Tiphia Sting"
main "Tomoe"
sub "Pole Grip"

[Shin Volcano]

Seriously now, you proved several times with your posts you don't know how enmity works, so just give up... (quick explanation: the chances for the mob to "look" for you while you're logged off unless the tank is just standing there taking a beating are almost non existant)

and you've proving that you also don't read, as i said, it's never been an issue for because when i loged back on and started fighting, the mob never turned to me again unless it was almost dead, and i gave up on people understanding already, you don't have to prove anything, i understand how it works fine, try to read more. so that "noneexistant" apperently was there. sorry pal.

[Callisto]

I'v heard of BRD using it to, dosn't work for them either? it's a pricy peice to get for just one job tho.

I highly doubt that 10 CHR will convert directly into 10 MAcc, I wouldn't use it over HQ staves on BRD unless I was fighting fodder mobs and just wanted to conserve inventory space.

[Yarko]

No....

@ capped acc:

You swing 500 times, miss 25, Zanshin procs on 12 (roughly), you miss 1.

Total swings 512, Total misses 26

486/512 = 95%.

I think that with effective acc they mean hits/swings, not counting the hits forced by Zanshin, so 486/500. You can say that Zanshin gives you an "accuracy boost", forcing a second hit when you miss your first one, and thus theoretically break the 95% cap, even though the parse will still show 95%.

[Callisto]

Yeah, per 'swing round' instead of actual swings you would be breaking the cap.

[Eole]

As for the Polearm SAM topic, I use crab sushi as SAM/WAR too and averaged about 900 penta thrusts with love torque and 1 minuet, I guess 600 isn't that unlikely if you /nin I guess.

Minuet + Chaos + Meat + Berserk is just <3333333333

That's my favourite ! But I've been told here to use March*2 so I'm trying it.

As for Berserk well, one of my friends is Dancer and he merits with me whenever I want to.

I have to /NIN so I don't die because without Protect you can die easily there and since we have no Raise...

[Shinryuu]

With 5/5 Store TP and TPing but not WSing in Hachiman kote you need to land 4 hits for polearm 5-hit, which isn't bad at all. Fulltiming Usukane feet does the same.

[Shin Volcano]

I highly doubt that 10 CHR will convert directly into 10 MAcc, I wouldn't use it over HQ staves on BRD unless I was fighting fodder mobs and just wanted to conserve inventory space.

I figured as much, at least i don't have to waste the gill now. i seriously wish SE would give something that can at least match or top the staffs, they should to know staves kill space at this point. of course releasing a grip for every damn element kind of proved they don't care.

[Eole]

With 5/5 Store TP and TPing but not WSing in Hachiman kote you need to land 4 hits for polearm 5-hit, which isn't bad at all. Fulltiming Usukane feet does the same.

I see what you did there !
Alas, I cannot trust my TP Return enough to consider this option.

Edit:
Let me calculate this,

35 + 13 Store TP = 48 Store TP
Our weapon has a 480 Delay, meaning it's TP Return will be : 13.0 + (480 - 480) x 1.5 / 50 = 13%
floor(13 * 1.48 ) = 19.2
19.2 + 4 (five-hit attack) = 23.2 TP.

19.2 * 4 = 76.8
76.8 + 23.2 = 100 TP

It's ok but requires all hits.

[ZhiGaruda]

I don't have that good of a PDT set, I use the following:

Joy/Terror/Kaman
Koenig/Shield/Buckler/Loq
Avalon/Homam/Patronus/Jelly
Boxer's/Swift/Homam/Gallant+1

My enhancing set is reasonably strong, torque/Merciful/1 merit/AF+1 legs, capped stoneskin but no mufflers/neck.

Sorry, had work to do when you posted this so I missed it.

Your massive -PDT% build shouldn't worry about anything other than that, especially for NMs. It's very important on /RDM, and takes priority over increased TP build for these circumstances.

Every little bit helps. "lolDEF" etc, but. Koenig handschuhs, Koenig diechlings, Koenig shield(Looking at this from a -PDT% stand point, the shield is far superior).

[requim]

In many situations rose strap can be swapped in for hachiman kote

And I'm pretty sure it's universally agreed upon that 3% haste > 2% DA.

For a 5/5 stp 480 polearm sam if you had usukane sune-ate with rajas/brutal adding in rose strap puts you up to 19.7 tp, so you would only 3/5 pentas, which would then let you roll in 19/21% haste

[Callisto]

Sorry, had work to do when you posted this so I missed it.

Your massive -PDT% build shouldn't worry about anything other than that, especially for NMs. It's very important on /RDM, and takes priority over increased TP build for these circumstances.

Every little bit helps. "lolDEF" etc, but. Koenig handschuhs, Koenig diechlings, Koenig shield(Looking at this from a -PDT% stand point, the shield is far superior).

I don't think I'm going to have access to Valhalla pieces or more Koenig than I already have(save hands if we do Sky again soon). I'm assuming for now then the DEF/VIT mix of Avalon will be the best out of what I have? I have Valor hands as well if I were going to go that route, but not sure about that slot and the legs.

Also I just realized that Ebon Haubert has 50DEF HP+12 VIT+4 DT-2% Enm+2, that's probably something reasonable for me to shoot for if it'd be better, I think I'd just need a mil or so to buy the base body.

edit: snap I just saw that the hands/legs of that set also have similar stats, I gotta get a Hagun to drop or something.

[Eole]

In many situations rose strap can be swapped in for hachiman kote

And I'm pretty sure it's universally agreed upon that 3% haste > 2% DA.

For a 5/5 stp 480 polearm sam if you had usukane sune-ate with rajas/brutal adding in rose strap puts you up to 19.7 tp, so you would only 3/5 pentas, which would then let you roll in 19/21% haste

Yes, I think this would be a more than valid option while I'm gathering the remaining millions for my Haramaki. I will take it back from the Storage :O

[ZhiGaruda]

I don't think I'm going to have access to Valhalla pieces or more Koenig than I already have(save hands if we do Sky again soon). I'm assuming for now then the DEF/VIT mix of Avalon will be the best out of what I have? I have Valor hands as well if I were going to go that route, but not sure about that slot and the legs.

Also I just realized that Ebon Haubert has 50DEF HP+12 VIT+4 DT-2% Enm+2, that's probably something reasonable for me to shoot for if it'd be better, I think I'd just need a mil or so to buy the base body.

edit: snap I just saw that the hands/legs of that set also have similar stats, I gotta get a Hagun to drop or something.

Yeah, I haven't even looked into Ebon yet, definitely will now.

[Bakthi]

Suppa/Hollow unless you pick up Ethereal, at which point Suppa/ACP Hollow > Suppa/Brutal and work your way down from there. Accuracy beats DA since you already have a high DA rate with Joyeuse and your hitrate won't be capped.

Would Suppa/Diabolos be better than Suppa/Brutal for a COR single-wielding Joyeuse? Assume 85-90% accuracy when using Brutal.

[Skeelo]

What would be better for for Sam/Thf SATA WS on lets say Sky gods for example?

Body:Osode Hands:alkys
vs.
Body:Shikkoku Togi (4str increase critical hit dmg) Hand:Shikkoku Hands (3str increases crit dmg)
Would the upped critical hit dmg on the body and hands beat out the loss of 14str from KO/alky combo?

[Amastacia]

Minuet + Chaos + Meat + Berserk is just <3333333333

That's my favourite ! But I've been told here to use March*2 so I'm trying it.

As for Berserk well, one of my friends is Dancer and he merits with me whenever I want to.

I have to /NIN so I don't die because without Protect you can die easily there and since we have no Raise...

Good thing you're trying 2x March. It's better.

And I have an earth-shattering, paradigm-altering suggestion to combat not having a raise.

A Reraise Earring.

I see what you did there !
Alas, I cannot trust my TP Return enough to consider this option.

Sounds like you need sushi then :D

5/5 Store TP merits, Rajas, Brutal, and Usu feet full-timed doesn't make for a true 5 hit, but if your Acc is capped, you'll rarely be missing enough WS hits to drop your 5 hit. And if you do, odds are at least decent you might get hit once which takes care of the missing TP anyway.