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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    Pure truth. Math and science have a well-known liberal bias. Stick with Ann Coulter and the Bible. Specifically Conservapedia's bible. That one has the right Jesus.
    Well, it doesn't matter if math and science have a liberal bias (they don't, except for that phony evolution crap).

    Liberals cannot build the infrastructure to actually teach kids how to do math and science.

    I'm a scientist.

    <= See.

    We don't subscribe to your silly definitions, we disprove them.
    Right.

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    You'd be amazed how many teachers are what you'd call "liberal" though... what a twist.

    There are some people who just honestly enjoy educating others.


    Note that I don't take Leif seriously, I'm simply using him as a devil's advocate at this point.

    You're doing a great job dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zealot View Post
    The real problem, then, is that liberals ruined No Child Left Behind, the greatest educational policy of our time.
    The real problem is that we had to compromise for such a weak piece of legislation because the teacher's unions threw a complete fit.

    You'd be amazed how many teachers are what you'd call "liberal" though... what a twist.

    There are some people who just honestly enjoy educating others.
    Right, by making videos singing about Barack Hussein Obama, mmm mmm mmm.

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    Why does evolution have liberal bias again? "The smartest, strongest, and most resourceful will succeed and the rest will vanish (to oversimplify)" doesn't sound like what we say at the meetings.

    If anything, I'd go with germ theory. IF ONE PERSON GETS SICK, WE ALL DO

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    Oh, we don't call them slaves.

    Those are just people we let live with us in exchange for mowing our lawn... and picking our cotton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Finesse View Post
    Not jk that was a well written post, and the bottom line is ( especially on the internet ): everyone is a little extreme and intellectually dishonest.
    Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by The Finesse View Post
    Now, to defend myself, I did say "in the South," and could further bring up particular regions to worry about something of the like wether it's racial, religious, or lifestyle discrimination I sincerely and with anecdotal evidence can prove that decentralized federal government is simply not viable yet it's the only answer you give for less government involvement and advocate state government or local government control.
    Not being a libertarian makes it pretty easy for me to agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Finesse View Post
    And the right crassly caricaturizes itself, I just hold up that picture so everyone can get a good look.
    It does in the states more so than like, any other country I've been in. But at some point in history, everyone needs an Edmund Burke to tell the iconoclastic left to not get too carried away. I think it's important to keep this in mind.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Finesse View Post
    I would suggest learning how to debate by arguing specific points and not resorting to generalities.
    Okay, we're exchanging barbs, now. Yes, I suppose I'm guilty of this.

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    I wonder what happened the last time there was an attempt to create a society run by pure reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max™ View Post
    More or less right...

    I personally think Math and Science should be first.

    A culture that understands the laws of entropy will be much less likely to be wasteful with it's resources or it's people.
    I agree! Intellectual honesty is a byproduct of a scientific mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadsuane View Post
    Thanks!



    Not being a libertarian makes it pretty easy for me to agree.



    It does in the states more so than like, any other country I've been in. But at some point in history, everyone needs an Edmund Burke to tell the iconoclastic left to not get too carried away. I think it's important to keep this in mind.



    Okay, we're exchanging barbs, now. Yes, I suppose I'm guilty of this.


    I feel like a victim of my teams inability to fire back. To put it bluntly my representatives are gigantic walking pussies and never push back when pushed. When the right screams foul libs have a tendency to turtle up and apologize so now I have to be all fucking Rush Limbaugh of the left and flip the script to prove a point.

    Obviously that point is lost and I come off as a mean-spirited asshole that just wants to win at all costs for nothing more than the value I invest in my party.

    Fair enough, casualty of war I suppose, but you see how when Leif or Eunhye pull that shit it comes off as just pure, 99% filtered crazy and when I do it's just mean and distasteful.

    But here I am victimizing myself which is not my intention, but I do make over the top arguments on purpose just to create what I feel is balance in arguments I feel shouldn't even be debated and leave the reasonable posting to Beckwin, Max, Rhinox, Darus et al

    Their arguments don't seem so bad after you're done reading me piss all over the thread are they?

    tl;dr You're right we shouldn't get too carried away but you can't keep throwing books at the barbarians at the gate waving pitch forks, torches, and Colt AR-15 A3 Tactical Carbine semi-automatic rifles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuya View Post
    I wonder what happened the last time there was an attempt to create a society run by pure reason.
    Ancient Greece?


    Incidentally, while I am completely serious about everything I say unless otherwise noted, I do not think I am being reasonable by most standards.

    In fact I would say I am being unreasonable by any standards other than my own, because I do not have to account to any other standards but the cold hard ones set by the laws of physics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Finesse View Post
    I feel like a victim of my teams inability to fire back. To put it bluntly my representatives are gigantic walking pussies and never push back when pushed. When the right screams foul libs have a tendency to turtle up and apologize so now I have to be all fucking Rush Limbaugh of the left and flip the script to prove a point.

    Obviously that point is lost and I come off as a mean-spirited asshole that just wants to win at all costs for nothing more than the value I invest in my party.

    Fair enough, casualty of war I suppose, but you see how when Leif or Eunhye pull that shit it comes off as just pure, 99% filtered crazy and when I do it's just mean and distasteful.

    But here I am victimizing myself which is not my intention, but I do make over the top arguments on purpose just to create what I feel is balance in arguments I feel shouldn't even be debated and leave the reasonable posting to Beckwin, Max, Rhinox, Darus et al

    Their arguments don't seem so bad after you're done reading me piss all over the thread are they?

    tl;dr You're right we shouldn't get too carried away but you can't keep throwing books at the barbarians at the gate waving pitch forks, torches, and Colt AR-15 A3 Tactical Carbine semi-automatic rifles.
    Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.

    Friedrich Nietzsche

    I totally hear you, but I guess I don't want to believe that a battle of ideologies with unwashed braindead conservatives can only be won by reading their demagogue playbook.

    We'd better stop this masturbatory agreeing with one another shit since forums are for DISAGREEMENTS AND FLAMES ONLY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max™ View Post
    Ancient Greece?


    Incidentally, while I am completely serious about everything I say unless otherwise noted, I do not think I am being reasonable by most standards.

    In fact I would say I am being unreasonable by any standards other than my own, because I do not have to account to any other standards but the cold hard ones set by the laws of physics.
    French revolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadsuane View Post
    Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.

    Friedrich Nietzsche

    I totally hear you, but I guess I don't want to believe that a battle of ideologies with unwashed braindead conservatives can only be won by reading their demagogue playbook.
    Fair enough, I'm humble enough to learn from lessons as they come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scaevola View Post
    Actually, it's a perfectly fair example. Institutionalized terrorism against minorities was very much the norm in the South until the Federal government stepped in to stop it (though in fairness the North has always been pretty damn racist too and not much has really been done). You can't just say "well, the community thinks violence is wrong!" when that community endorsed said violence quite openly by action or omission before Washington brought down the hammer, and has shown through the continued existence of the KKK and other hate groups that at least a large subset of the community would hit the ground running all over again if they had the chance.

    Overlooked this little gem sitting at the bottom of page 3. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadsuane View Post

    We'd better stop this masturbatory agreeing with one another shit since forums are for DISAGREEMENTS AND FLAMES ONLY.

    lol

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    Hey, a group of intelligent people with different views, but core ideals they can agree on, and the ability to peacefully discuss the things which they disagree over.

    This is an outbreak of anarchism.

    Sirrus, T_F, Cadsuane, Cantih, Kuya, Seraph, Lief even if we were to let him come out of his cover.

    We could all sit and discuss things as a group, make jokes, share ideas and suggestions, we could share problems and seek assistance with them. Then I pop in with a homemade pizza and we all nosh and nosh and nosh.



    Then it breaks up.

    Though it was short lived, that would have been an anarchist political meeting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max™ View Post
    Hey, a group of intelligent people with different views, but core ideals they can agree on, and the ability to peacefully discuss the things which they disagree over.

    This is an outbreak of anarchism.

    Sirrus, T_F, Cadsuane, Cantih, Kuya, Seraph, Lief even if we were to let him come out of his cover.

    We could all sit and discuss things as a group, make jokes, share ideas and suggestions, we could share problems and seek assistance with them. Then I pop in with a homemade pizza and we all nosh and nosh and nosh.



    Then it breaks up.

    Though it was short lived, that would have been an anarchist political meeting.
    I actually went to an anarchist meet up the other week back. After the civil exchange of ideas(Some drunk guy at the bar even joined in with us) we burned down the whole town and road out on motorcycles with clubs and knives. Shit was so badass.

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    I have a confession.

    In high school, I too tried Libertarianism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max™ View Post
    Hey, a group of intelligent people with different views, but core ideals they can agree on, and the ability to peacefully discuss the things which they disagree over.

    This is an outbreak of anarchism.

    Sirrus, T_F, Cadsuane, Cantih, Kuya, Seraph, Lief even if we were to let him come out of his cover.

    We could all sit and discuss things as a group, make jokes, share ideas and suggestions, we could share problems and seek assistance with them. Then I pop in with a homemade pizza and we all nosh and nosh and nosh.



    Then it breaks up.

    Though it was short lived, that would have been an anarchist political meeting.
    So uh, no one's still mad about that opinion rights thread I made?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cadsuane View Post
    So uh, no one's still mad about that opinion rights thread I made?
    If people got mad at every ignorant statement life would be dismal indeed.

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