Random Crafting Question Thread I: HQ secret cracked!

**Seol** · 2012-07-17 23:26

Probably not worth the hassle, but perhaps the mention. The 150k/200k Furniture give some sort of "Artisan's advantage" (Less items lost on breaks) sort of enhancement that the stall doesn't, right? Would be useful if you try to break-synth skill up or something.

**Alistaire** · 2012-07-23 12:59

Know if you can trade FoV augmented items to the synergy furnace to craft them, for example, into this new prism staff released today?

Edit: tested, can't.

**dasva** · 2012-07-23 14:59

I'm more intested if you can trade the new prism staff to FOV for augmenting

**Celebrindor** · 2012-07-23 18:00

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Shaper%27s_Shawl

Certainly interesting, in the .dats from today's update it seems. No clue obviously where it comes from, or even if it is in the game yet (I would wage it appear in the update tomorrow if at all yet, and the .dat was simply added today), but certainly will help out for the 100-110 push and for the future 110-120, etc jumps.

**Buffy** · 2012-07-23 18:16

Originally Posted by Celebrindor

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Shaper%27s_Shawl

Certainly interesting, in the .dats from today's update it seems. No clue obviously where it comes from, or even if it is in the game yet (I would wage it appear in the update tomorrow if at all yet, and the .dat was simply added today), but certainly will help out for the 100-110 push and for the future 110-120, etc jumps.

The discussion is that it comes from the old fish, Matsya, that is newly guttable. On this undocumented theory, my mule is pulling up cave cherax as quick as possible.

**Celebrindor** · 2012-07-23 22:04

edit for idiocy.

**Celebrindor** · 2012-07-24 06:57

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...plumbboots.png

Well, we know Aurora Bass is not the Skill Up cape. Still leaves the other fish of course, but part of me wonders if they'd introduce both new items from the same system. Until someone guts the other fish successfully, we won't know. And from what this non-fisher has read, that isn't gonna happen any time soon....at least not cheaply.

Another option could be the Heroine's fight, but it would seem like an extremely odd reward for a fight like that, especially when you consider that fights with storyline NPCs have never had truly functional in-game rewards outside of bragging rights and an enjoyable fight.

**dasva** · 2012-07-24 10:58

Idk it doesn't make sense to me not to put something epic from matsya. Given how many have been turned in and nothing seems like a safe bet to assume it's 1% or less. And the time it would take to fish up and trade in 100 fish for something that is ra/ex the fisher could have made at least 50 mil with alot less hassle...

**Rooney** · 2012-07-24 11:06

The update notes mentioned new synth recipes. Anyone find any? Checked the goldsmithing guild w/ no results ofc (unless it's <90). Anyone else check yet? They did say new synthesis recipes and new synergy recipes, so I'm hoping it's not just the staff/broth in synergy.

**Taint** · 2012-07-24 11:25

Originally Posted by dasva

Idk it doesn't make sense to me not to put something epic from matsya. Given how many have been turned in and nothing seems like a safe bet to assume it's 1% or less. And the time it would take to fish up and trade in 100 fish for something that is ra/ex the fisher could have made at least 50 mil with alot less hassle...

200 cave cherox = ~40 Dwarf pugils = ~10 Malsya

So 12-13 days to get 100 Malsya

12 days of is ~25mil if you cap on Haku

**dasva** · 2012-07-24 12:28

Your math is good your numbers are off however. Turn in rate is more like 1/4 for bait but thats close. However 4 bait loss per catch isn't even close to the right number. It's more like 10-12 bait loss per catch which would take about an hour. For a more complete breakdown only about 1/3 of the things that bite that eat your bait are matsya and 2/3 to 3/4 of those are line snaps

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So basically 4 days of fishing will net you 200 bait. It will take around 20 hours to use that bait to get around 20 matsya. So 5 days total for 20 fish

**dasva** · 2012-07-24 12:37

Oh and I have't checked it out yet but given how they didn't find anymore items in the dats that the new synthesis recipe is just the cooking version of the new bst pet

**dasva** · 2012-07-24 17:02

Just to update yes cooking does get to make auroral broth. It's between Flounder Meuniere and Black Curry which I beleive makes it lvl 93 synth

**Guitarman** · 2012-07-25 01:32

Originally Posted by dasva

Just to update yes cooking does get to make auroral broth. It's between Flounder Meuniere and Black Curry which I beleive makes it lvl 93 synth

If for some reason the bass become more common it's a fantastic alternative to skill on. Just don't see that happening with what a huge PITA the bass are.

So stupid question, but I'm really having a hard time wrapping my head around some things about synergy, even after reading both wikis.

Say I want to augment my WHM mule's genbu shield, but my main has synergy, Does the whm mule need to have synergy skilled to have the shield augmented? or can the main augment the mule's shield?

**Buffy** · 2012-07-25 05:30

Originally Posted by Guitarman

If for some reason the bass become more common it's a fantastic alternative to skill on. Just don't see that happening with what a huge PITA the bass are.

So stupid question, but I'm really having a hard time wrapping my head around some things about synergy, even after reading both wikis.

Say I want to augment my WHM mule's genbu shield, but my main has synergy, Does the whm mule need to have synergy skilled to have the shield augmented? or can the main augment the mule's shield?

The mule has to have synergy unlocked, which used to require the quest for the mine gravel, but now involves........talking to any Synergy Engineer anywhere and paying 100 gil.

**douten** · 2012-07-25 09:18

Do you guys think there's a high chance that SE might introduce t4 for hq in the future? Or would the lvl requirement above 51+ be too high for it to be feasible?

My alc is now 71 and the only recipe I do on it is lvl 20 so I can invest in other craft, but if t4 will be introduced I would rather continue lvling it.

**Taint** · 2012-07-25 11:20

Originally Posted by douten

Do you guys think there's a high chance that SE might introduce t4 for hq in the future? Or would the lvl requirement above 51+ be too high for it to be feasible?

My alc is now 71 and the only recipe I do on it is lvl 20 so I can invest in other craft, but if t4 will be introduced I would rather continue lvling it.

Probably not.

**cdgreg** · 2012-07-25 17:16

Originally Posted by douten

Do you guys think there's a high chance that SE might introduce t4 for hq in the future? Or would the lvl requirement above 51+ be too high for it to be feasible?

My alc is now 71 and the only recipe I do on it is lvl 20 so I can invest in other craft, but if t4 will be introduced I would rather continue lvling it.

I also doubt it, I don't really see a reason to, 50% HQ is already pretty high, especially when you have higher HQ tiers within (HQ1,2,3)

**Guitarman** · 2012-08-01 02:59

Don't suppose anyone knows the approximate goldsmithing level on ghillie earring?

**Genosync** · 2012-08-01 08:45

Does the skill level of the synergist operating the furnace definitely influence the HQ rate of the synth?

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