Random Crafting Question Thread I: HQ secret cracked!

[takito09]

Hey guys maybe you already discussed this before but regarding the Guild points requested item.. Is there some kind of pattern so you can know what item or items will be asked for the next day?

Or for example if today there was "x" is it possible to know when that item will be asked again?

Or is it just completely random or there's like 4 or 5 possible items every day ?

Update

After doing some research correct me if im wrong.
FF ah says next day the level for my current skill level will be "Initiate"

So then I proceeded and checked this website http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Guild_Point/Items

This site gave me a pool of 8 different items for "the initiate" rank

So that means that's the way it works? Or how accurate is that?

[Nekradarken]

You can use the FFXIAH's guild pattern. But the pattern is broken recently, so it is better to check the "today's report" section for more accurate result.

[dasva]

There is a pattern and there used to be a few good sites for it like ffrecipe was awesome but SE changed alot of it around and no one really has fixed it

[NynJa]

I think his question was if you can predict tomorrows item based on todays pattern, I dont think that was ever possible.

[takito09]

I think his question was if you can predict tomorrows item based on todays pattern, I dont think that was ever possible.

Yes that's what I ment ! Thanks for explaining it Nynja.

I was thinking about making a mule and spend 1 day making a lot of guild items that's why I was making that question.

But yeah it seems to be unpredictable

[dasva]

No... iirc you could only predict the rank it would be. Now once you found some of that days you could predict the rest for that day

[Byrthnoth]

I'm very sorry that this is the wrong place, but i really didn't want to necrobump the march 2012 new recipe thread, but according to BG wiki and from what i've searched, lavalier doesn't have listed anything for it's synthesis, well i was dicking around at 73.9 leathercraft on leathercraft adv support npc and he gave me the recipe as a suggestion to make, so that must put it near 73 leathercraft? Don't know the skill level difference on recipes offered from npcs, but felt I should post this to help narrow down recipe levels, once again very sorry this is in wrong place.

EDIT: I saw there was alot of clothcraft sub reqs that were listed as unknown for some leathercraft recipes, so i decided to try and see what info I can help provide since my clothcraft is very low, I don't want to keep doing new posts, so i figured I would just edit post what recipe subs that I was able to attempt at what CC skill. I'm sorry if it's not the best of info since my CC was 25 when I decided to do this, but I figured it wouldn't hurt. The first recipe I tried was Stout Bonnet, which I fucked up and didn't do the engage method so i lost the mats as well as the crystal, but it allowed me to attempt it at 25 CC, when it's 95 LC and CC ??? listed atm, so it's definitely either equal to or less then 40 CC if the highest difference you can do a recipe is 15 like BG wiki says. I'm also sorry that i'm posting this in RCT, but I can't seem to find any thread that this would be appropriate in without necrobumping it.

EDIT 2: I attempted to see if I could help narrow down CC reqs on bison wristbands (was only the cheapest one I could find that if I broke it wouldn't matter) and out of 7 synths I had no breaks and no skillups to CC, at 25 CC with no support or food, which leads me to think it's CC could be less then or equal to 25, but then again it's just 7 synths so not much data, but it's definitely in the 20-30 range at the least.

Do you happen to have the Lavalier recipe?

Thanks for the other tests too!

[Robertfb]

Do you happen to have the Lavalier recipe?

Thanks for the other tests too!

Here's a screenshot I took of the recipe as given to me by the npc.

Spoiler: show

[Byrthnoth]

Thanks, added.

Questions:
1) What do the MMM crafting runes do for crafting (like Alchemy/Superior Synthesis)?
2) I have 200 Marbles and (afaik) no runes at all. What is the fastest way to get them to test?
3) Level with me, how annoying is Maze 04?

[Byrthnoth]

I made a post above with questions I'd like answers to, but also there's this:
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Byrth_/_S...afting_Example

We're considering a crafting re-work on bgwiki and I feel one of the first steps should be to transition all recipes to using one template so that people can simply copy and paste from individual item pages to the main synthesis page and vice versa. As such we need a way to display the information that looks good on both type of pages.

The specific formatting is not final (as in the lines, the tabs, and such), but I would like some feedback on the usefulness of it. For instance, I like having the products on the left for the main crafting page because I typically look through by product. I do sometimes look through by craft level, but feel it's weird to include a whole column with just one number in it. Also, though it looks fine on the main craft page I wouldn't like 100% width for the individual item pages. I think we can probably make it sort by craft level in an automated way, but haven't figured out exactly how yet.

Here are current template examples for comparison:
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Leathercrafting
vs.
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Lavalier

[TSFFXI]

Thanks, added.

Questions:
1) What do the MMM crafting runes do for crafting (like Alchemy/Superior Synthesis)?
2) I have 200 Marbles and (afaik) no runes at all. What is the fastest way to get them to test?
3) Level with me, how annoying is Maze 04?

1)There is a quick note here http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Mo..._Synthing_Maze which says

It is possible that you can obtain skill-ups in these mazes, but unfortunately those skill-ups are very rare.

However the author of the guide also notes that he/she has not done the maze before. I suspect the description of "superior synthesis" refers to the high quality rate of the maze's synthesis system rather than traditional crafting.

2) I'm pretty sure those runes only drop from the hoardbox of mazes with a lost and found rune. That would mean buying Lost and Found, a 500 marble rune, and I think Maze Voucher 02 or 03, then picking a notorious monster and spamming it until you got a drop. You can probably find an applicable notorious monster maze on Duplidoc, though. Otherwise I'd suggest 05 for marbles. 04 is only 100 marbles, so you're all set there.
3) I've never personally tried it, although I might if I get a free moment later this week. This page contains some good information: http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Materialization_Team. I did a quick scroll-through of the talk page and didn't notice any information that would answer your first question.

[Buffy]

I made a post above with questions I'd like answers to, but also there's this:
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Byrth_/_S...afting_Example

We're considering a crafting re-work on bgwiki and I feel one of the first steps should be to transition all recipes to using one template so that people can simply copy and paste from individual item pages to the main synthesis page and vice versa. As such we need a way to display the information that looks good on both type of pages.

The specific formatting is not final (as in the lines, the tabs, and such), but I would like some feedback on the usefulness of it. For instance, I like having the products on the left for the main crafting page because I typically look through by product. I do sometimes look through by craft level, but feel it's weird to include a whole column with just one number in it. Also, though it looks fine on the main craft page I wouldn't like 100% width for the individual item pages. I think we can probably make it sort by craft level in an automated way, but haven't figured out exactly how yet.

Here are current template examples for comparison:
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Leathercrafting
vs.
https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Lavalier

I'd like to see the HQ indented further under the HQ result in the first column. The result is to the right a bit, but the bullet point is in the same place. I think that makes it a bit hard to read.
Also putting the Key Item in a different color, red perhaps? Not sure about that, depends how it looks.

[dasva]

Thanks, added.

Questions:
1) What do the MMM crafting runes do for crafting (like Alchemy/Superior Synthesis)?
2) I have 200 Marbles and (afaik) no runes at all. What is the fastest way to get them to test?
3) Level with me, how annoying is Maze 04?

1) No idea never done it. According to wiki it says your skill will be enhanced when doing the party synthing in there but the runes themselves don't...
2) Hard to say according to other wiki they only drop in maze 4 and only with lost and found equipped. Seeing as I have never done maze 4 and I have all of them besides leathercrafter I'm going to say BS. Not sure if I got some from using marbles since it's been so long but if they don't come from buying then since the vast majority of my runs have been the fishing one probably from that. And that one takes all of about 10 minutes to solo if you know what you doing. Now I did do a few 1s to farm marbles in the begining but and those pretty fast and easy if you have a low lvl to put in there. Though you wont get hardly any marbles.

[TSFFXI]

1) 2) Hard to say according to other wiki they only drop in maze 4 and only with lost and found equipped. Seeing as I have never done maze 4 and I have all of them besides leathercrafter I'm going to say BS.

The table is misleading, but

The numbered columns on the right specify which Maze Voucher(s) each rune can be placed into.

The columns don't indicate where they drop. I've never done the fishing one, but the crafting runes are pretty common from the lost and found/NM mazes.

[Maguile]

Whats the main craft used in hexed kecks? BG says CC while wiki says BC

[Radec]

CC definitely

[mdkuser]

is there a way to unlearn Synergy Abilities in order to learn a different one?

[Buffy]

is there a way to unlearn Synergy Abilities in order to learn a different one?

Not that I'm aware.

[Celebrindor]

is there a way to unlearn Synergy Abilities in order to learn a different one?

Good lord I wish. Either that, or I hope with an eventual cap of 100 we can see hope of capping more than we can now. Damn thwacking.

[Esvedium]

Since I'm going to be working on skilling synergy at some point soon here, what's the general consensus on what abilities to upgrade?