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  1. #1541
    Pandemonium
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    Kitron Macaroon of course for de-synth is wonderful, it really changes the de-synth path imo.

    53-64 is a pretty big gap. Do-able with synth support and macaroon, but you get some really ugly stretches. I do it when levelling aclhemy sub 40-51, but platinum ingots are like an 8k synth on Slyph.

    I'd recommend gold hairpins all the way to 57 and maybe even gold rings to 60.

    Remember, you can't skillup of a break until you are within 5 levels of recipe cap. So breaking a gold hairpin synth gives you a chance to skillup, whereas breaking a platinum ingot synth is just money wasted.

  2. #1542
    Ridill
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    Kitrons are nice but still break a lot of crystals lol. So gotta factor that in too. Plus the time it takes to attempt to desynth the same hairpin 3 times lol

  3. #1543
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    Is there a reason to take goldsmithing past 63 as a subcraft for smithing. I was just looking to get it up to 63 so that I cleared the gap on any smithing synth I might need.

    Also, isn't platinum ingot (ore recipe) level 63, not 64?

    Edit: I guess Cursed Breastplate might need 70 GS, according to BG it needs 70 leather for T1

  4. #1544
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    Level your appropriate (preferably all) subcrafts to the cap, don't be lazy or look for an excuse to avoid it.

  5. #1545
    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!
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    I'd like to give SE a big fuck you. Hahava Mails are 200K-250K on Odin. Due to that, i'm stuck at lvl 105 for Bonecraft. 105-107 was supposed to be Dux Body.

  6. #1546
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    Quote Originally Posted by vagus View Post
    I'd like to give SE a big fuck you. Hahava Mails are 200K-250K on Odin. Due to that, i'm stuck at lvl 105 for Bonecraft. 105-107 was supposed to be Dux Body.
    Why? They were like 400k each when I did it. And well after that it gets waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more expensive though not so bad now I think

  7. #1547
    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!
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    Leathercraft (caps at 103)
    Earth Crystal
    Squamous Hide x1
    Lizard Molt x1
    Wamoura Silk x1
    Hahava's Mail x1

    attacker's mantle.

  8. #1548
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    This second wave of crafters trying to push to 110 is interesting. SE needs to hurry up and give us 120 access. I don't care if it's 5m a synth, I just want something to work towards and to stay ahead of the masses.

  9. #1549
    Pandemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdgreg View Post
    This second wave of crafters trying to push to 110 is interesting. SE needs to hurry up and give us 120 access. I don't care if it's 5m a synth, I just want something to work towards and to stay ahead of the masses.
    I don't even see that much competition for materials...I see a complete lack of materials as the primary issue right now.

    Besides, the low rate of abjurations means there isn't even that much demand for hexed -1 really.

    Crafting needs some attention soon.

  10. #1550
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffy View Post
    I don't even see that much competition for materials...I see a complete lack of materials as the primary issue right now.

    Besides, the low rate of abjurations means there isn't even that much demand for hexed -1 really.

    Crafting needs some attention soon.
    There was a lot of materials right before the expansion... I think part of the problem is buying of -1s went way down so of course the T1ers stopped producing so they stopped buying so people stopped selling/undercut like mofos

  11. #1551
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    Well right before the expansion all the good players were doing other stuff, now they are doing SoA stuff. So low supply cause the gimps take 3 hours to do a single prov using displacers and nearly wipe.

  12. #1552
    Ridill
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    Yeah less people getting abj and alot of the gear being outclassed or at least getting close no one wants to drop the monies. Especially when they off spamming stuff for baldy lol

  13. #1553
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    i guess this isnt really a question but anyways, after a break from crafting/ffxi i got back and decided to lvl my LC up further, from 105.3 crafing hexed tekko's. so on waters day+rusk+shawl+12 LC and hq+break ring i get 0.7 skillups out of 8 synths getting 106 LC.

    then a few days later after i was able to farm a few more taffeta cloths i manage to get 10 mats which i then synth again with all the factors/items i useed the previous time (except the moonphase) and i end up getting 0 skillups in 10 synths -.- i know the 0.7/0.8 streak was really lucky but seriously .0/1? fuck you SE! ; ; guess luck just getting back at me.

  14. #1554
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    Very normal. Things always average out in the end

  15. #1555
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    question tho, what would you guys do in my situation? use rusk or macron? i got a lucky -1 using rusk but i also would hate missing many skillups by not using macron -.- according to jap wiki macron increase skillups by 7% and rusk gives +7 quality power? idk if its towards T0 crafts or what they mean by quality power, they dont know for sure themselves i assume. have also heard that rusk helps with HQ tier +1/+2/+3 etc, so it wouldnt really help with synths that only have 1 tier.

    i know my questions been asked a 100 times for sure and there prolly isnt a answer to them but just curious what you guys would use to get 106-107 LC on hexed tekko whick are 108 LC.

  16. #1556
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    For synergy augmenting, does having a negative amount of other fewell hurt the outcome, or does it only matter what the main target is? Earthen tatters, for example, does having a negative thunder matter?

  17. #1557
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    Quote Originally Posted by backstab View Post
    question tho, what would you guys do in my situation? use rusk or macron? i got a lucky -1 using rusk but i also would hate missing many skillups by not using macron -.- according to jap wiki macron increase skillups by 7% and rusk gives +7 quality power? idk if its towards T0 crafts or what they mean by quality power, they dont know for sure themselves i assume. have also heard that rusk helps with HQ tier +1/+2/+3 etc, so it wouldnt really help with synths that only have 1 tier.

    i know my questions been asked a 100 times for sure and there prolly isnt a answer to them but just curious what you guys would use to get 106-107 LC on hexed tekko whick are 108 LC.
    Not sure what they mean either and without real testing to look at I wouldn't trust random jp numbers. But given you say you are t0 I'd just use macaroon. Your odds of hqing are so ridiculously low no point in trying to raise them an even ridiculously smaller amount. As far as better skillups with macaroon I'm not sure yet since so far it looks really close but it makes a huge difference in break rate if that matters to you

  18. #1558
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    Agree with Dasva, I also want to know what the fuck quality power is. I recently synthed 27 T2's using rusk and HQ ring and ended up going 3/27, clearly I needed more quality power.

  19. #1559
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikpik View Post
    For synergy augmenting, does having a negative amount of other fewell hurt the outcome, or does it only matter what the main target is? Earthen tatters, for example, does having a negative thunder matter?
    No you can have -99 in an element that isn't involved in the synergy synth and you won't fail/have lower HQ etc.

  20. #1560
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdgreg View Post
    Agree with Dasva, I also want to know what the fuck quality power is. I recently synthed 27 T2's using rusk and HQ ring and ended up going 3/27, clearly I needed more quality power.
    It is times like this that I wonder why someone hasn't bribed any FFXI ex-devs to spill the beans on formulas like this. A decade+ of the game running, and we're lucky we know the basics of T0/T1/T2 HQ odds, much less anything else!

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