Metatron Torment Aftermath

[Sehrahin]

When I did my tests to check duration on defense down I used the antica around KV spot.
And they are far under too weak.

[Sehrahin]

From the day I the first batch of testing:
The Antican Secutor's Defense Down effect wears off. Too weak
The Cave Worm's Defense Down effect wears off. Easy prey
Cataerith's Defense Down effect wears off. The person I did defense checks on, tried with different armor to see if percent was same. Which it was. To note is that I never landed defense down when Cata was on THF, but landed every time when on MNK. Wasn't a huge test sample so could be a fluke too.
Also later that day I got to proc on DI.. So it certainly procs quite a bit for me >.>
Got proc day after on:
Mahjlaef the Paintorn's Defense Down effect wears off.
The Experimental Lamia's Defense Down effect wears off.

So yah! Procs a fair bit on various mobs.

[BerenTebogo]

What % -DEF did you get? I haven't seen it posted anywhere and obviously I haven't been able to test it.

[FailureMidgard]

No idea then, sounds like it's just random. Y/G/K don't proc status effects on every use either.

[Sehrahin]

From my OP:

The defense down is 18,75% or 48/256 (Ballista test)

From the post on first page:

I don't know if defense down gets that penalty but did some tests on the defense down in ballista as well.

On my MNK friend:

Before 357, 400
After 290, 325

Which would work out to 18,75% or 48/256? Lil lower than Angon but certainly pretty awesome.

[Byrthnoth]

When it works. Honestly not being 100% proc makes it a little less attractive then I assumed it was for pure DD purposes like meritting.

Having a weapon that gives both -~20% DEF and -30EVA to the enemies and gives you -20% DT for tanking makes you a very alliance-friendly kind of melee, turning gimps into pros with every swing and WS. Being a low probability proc rate on the DEF down makes the WS choice less attractive. From Meritting with Bravura WARs on Trolls though, that DEF down can definitely be nice. I'm just surprised to find out it isn't 100%.

[BerenTebogo]

I've switched back to RR fulltime once I confirmed that the DEF down wasn't 100%

Not worth it unless I'm getting hit or doing double light

[Byrthnoth]

I've switched back to RR fulltime once I confirmed that the DEF down wasn't 100%

Not worth it unless I'm getting hit or doing double light

Heh, still climbing NI too?

[BerenTebogo]

NI? wat

[Byrthnoth]

Nyzul Isle?
You said Raging Rush instead of King's Justice. I assume the groups you do stuff with can spare a buffer or two for a party with you in it.

[BerenTebogo]

Oh that, no I have KJ but RR is proving to be better for pure damage with uneven zerk/agg timers.

I have, imo, far above average sets for both and RR is parsing higher and more consistent for me since finishing relic.

[Byrthnoth]

Well, higher base damage on the weapon itself would minorly favor Raging Rush, but I can't imagine the difference between Bravura and Perdu's base damage would tip the scales. Still, I parsed better with RR than KJ too pretty much everywhere. <,<; I blamed it on my Tarutaru STR and INT merits.

At least it's probably nice for you to get the extra TP from additional hits. Do you WS in +7 STP and TP in +9 now? Those numbers are a little awkward, but possible I guess.