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    Quote Originally Posted by Sepukku View Post
    Your shit about police breaking things up just got annihilated by my last post ^^^
    Sounds like you didn't read the entire san jose mercury story. They arrested Ortega at the scene after he ran, sounds like they broke something up. She wasn't just found alone.

    If you don't like the SJ merc, here's another local paper, the San Francisco Chronicle:

    The first suspect arrested, Manuel Ortega, 19, who dropped out of Richmond High in 2007, was arrested as he ran from the scene of the attack at the school about midnight Saturday, police said.
    3rd suspect arrested in Richmond High gang rape

    And you trying to say CNN would be a more trust worthy source on this rather than a local newspaper with way more people on the ground with working relationships with local police and schools is naive at best.

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    The first suspect arrested, Manuel Ortega, 19, who dropped out of Richmond High in 2007, was arrested as he ran from the scene of the attack at the school about midnight Saturday, police said.
    How typical. I bet he was raised in a single mother household too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leif View Post
    Obviously. If women didn't vote, such a school would not exist. Our education system would be efficient and we could eliminate the Department of Education forever. Unfortunately, women (and, as I explained ad nauseam, gays, Jews, blacks, the poor, the rich, etc etc, all qualify too!) decided to reward schools like this with more money (and I'm sure after this incident, they'll really get it!) and no accountability.

    So instead of learning how to read (highly correlated with violent crime) and love America, all of these boys that allegedly raped her probably remembered to use a condom!


    =)

    Given the real possibility that this is an elaborate hoax, my heart goes out to this woman if she is a genuine victim. Thanks, liberals! Boy, I love how every little thing is actually the left's fault! Every social and foreign policy problem can be traced back successfully to liberals, including gang rape!
    oh god leif arrived, I'm not even gonna read this, he makes me so mad

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    Quote Originally Posted by meson View Post
    Sounds like you didn't read the entire san jose mercury story. They arrested Ortega at the scene after he ran, sounds like they broke something up. She wasn't just found alone.

    If you don't like the SJ merc, here's another local paper, the San Francisco Chronicle:


    3rd suspect arrested in Richmond High gang rape

    And you trying to say CNN would be a more trust worthy source on this rather than a local newspaper with way more people on the ground with working relationships with local police and schools is naive at best.

    That just happened!

    http://www.americansweets.co.uk/ekmp...-box-802-p.jpg

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    Let's assume some basic things here. One, there was really a girl. Two, people did have sex with her. Three, it was in a public place.

    That's all we know so far. She was admitted under critical condition (the details of which are unknown), let's say she was beaten. We dont know by whom. If we trust the more credible resource there's no indication that anyone who was actually involved with the sex acts may have actually participated in the physical abuse.


    If the nineteen year old is found guilty of having sex with her he should be convicted of a Felony and imprisoned for maximum four years in a state penitentiary for statutory rape. With an additional one year for public lewdness.

    Anyone under the age of 18 would be found guilty of a misdemeanor and up to one year of county jailtime. With an additional one year for public lewdness. Including the girl herself if one of the "rapists" was under 18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archibaldcrane View Post
    Why do so many people jump to accuse alleged rape victims of being sluts who asked for it?
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    Only 6% of rapists will ever spend a day in jail.

    People A. Make shit up B. Ask for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Roark View Post
    oh god leif arrived, I'm not even gonna read this, he makes me so mad
    Well, you're from Canada, I guess it really doesn't matter.

    You should consider yourself lucky. America could roll over and crush you at any moment. Submit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arigorn View Post
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    Only 6% of rapists will ever spend a day in jail.

    People A. Make shit up B. Ask for it.
    Further proof of modern day politics! Everyone wants to be a victim!

    Quote Originally Posted by Howard Roark View Post
    if you don't shut up I'll put you on ignore
    Wow, what a threat.

    "If you don't stop it, I'll ignore you."

    I don't think anyone has ever said something so powerfully insulting to me before. The silent treatment is unbearable, especially when it comes from a Canadian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arigorn View Post
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    Only 6% of rapists will ever spend a day in jail.

    People A. Make shit up B. Ask for it.
    What does my quote have to do with your absurd conclusion?

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    I'm no lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that in America, we don't actually charge our rape victims for public lewdness if they happen to be assaulted in public. I'm also pretty sure statutory rape is not what applies here, as it implies that there is consent between both parties even though one is legally not recognized as able to give consent.

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    Because a majority of people that cry rape are full of shit. That is the answer to your question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arigorn View Post
    Because a majority of people that cry rape are full of shit. That is the answer to your question.
    The victim in this case isn't the one who called the cops, what makes you think she "cried rape"?

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    Aside from who's at fault, I'd have to say I feel sorry for the girl regardless.

    I wouldn't want such a situation to occur to anybody I knew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivve View Post
    I'm no lawyer, but I'm pretty sure that in America, we don't actually charge our rape victims for public lewdness if they happen to be assaulted in public. I'm also pretty sure statutory rape is not what applies here, as it implies that there is consent between both parties even though one is legally not recognized as able to give consent.
    Statutory rape is not rape. We do not know if she was a rape victim, infact, I would venture to say that we more than likely could have 15-20 eye witnesses that says she was willing.

    I do not believe that the absence of confirmation of consent is evidence that there was lack of consent.

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    The kid who was released was at the scene and said that she was a willing participant in the initial sexual act. He did not participate, but was there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by #686578 View Post
    Statutory rape is not rape. We do not know if she was a rape victim, infact, I would venture to say that we more than likely could have 15-20 eye witnesses that says she was willing.

    I do not believe that the absence of confirmation of consent is evidence that there was lack of consent.
    Or the 15-20 witnesses all claim she was willing because they do not want to be charged with being an accomplice to rape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Solefald View Post
    The victim in this case isn't the one who called the cops, what makes you think she "cried rape"?
    Never said this victim did. I was answering a general question about rape victims and society.

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    510Meeze: brilliant troll or utterly retarded?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 510Meeze View Post
    The kid who was released was at the scene and said that she was a willing participant in the initial sexual act. He did not participate, but was there.
    Where is this printed?

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