Girl Gangraped for 2 hours at school while everyone else just watched.

[Sup3rB4d]

Beaten, yes. I say this because I don't think they would report alcohol poisoning as "critical condition".

Rape? statutory (with consent)

[archibaldcrane]

He could be, but I've witnessed my friends go to jail over a similar scenario:

1. Girl comes to friends house where there are multiple guys

2. Girl gets drunk and consents to group sex

3. Girl goes home and regrets her actions

4. Girl cries rape

5 Friend spends 8 months in jail before charges are dropped because has become a prostitute for her meth habit.

Or maybe your friends are rapists.

[510Meeze]

No, sweetheart. You don't understand that being released has absolutely no bearing on whether or not he will be charged with any crime at a later date. It says nothing at all about guilt or innocence. Bless your dumb little heart. You must be 15 years old too.

It does mean that there isn't evidence at the time to even want to bring charges at this time.

I didn't infer at any point that he was innocent. Who is trolling now?

[Ivve]

He could be, but I've witnessed my friends go to jail over a similar scenario:

1. Girl comes to friends house where there are multiple guys

2. Girl gets drunk and consents to group sex

3. Girl goes home and regrets her actions

4. Girl cries rape

5 Friend spends 8 months in jail before charges are dropped because has become a prostitute for her meth habit.

Except for the part where she was airlifted to a hospital in critical condition? Generally speaking, that doesn't end up happening in consensual situations. I guess you also don't understand that if someone says "stop" at any point during a sexual encounter, the law holds you responsible for obeying their wishes.

I'm not sure that she was beaten at all, people don't seem to know that the word "assault" means something different in the legal sense. Although a good way to stop a rape victim from struggling is to knock them unconscious.

Except for the part where she was airlifted to a hospital in critical condition? I am pretty sure that implies something serious happened.

[Solefald]

Ok, the SJ Mercury article does say she was punched while unconscious

"The victim drank a large amount of brandy quickly, police say, and was quickly incapacitated. While semiconscious, she fell victim to rape. As many as seven people assaulted her as she lay on a bench, while others jeered, beat her, robbed her and took photos with their cell phones. Police say they don"t know exactly how many people watched during the course of the attack, but some reports have said as many 20."

[#686578]

Pretty sure there's no 'legal term' for words like 'hospital' and 'critical condition.'

Welcome to 5 pages ago when we sorted this whole 'I didn't actually read the article' defense.

I'm confident in my ability to assert that the legal term for "hospital" would be in fact "hospital."

Critical condition is open to interpretation.

[MF Perm tha Fineass]

I'm still not positive I want to acknowledge that she was "beaten" without credible sources, critical condition can be vague. From what I understand she was probably naked, passed out, and delusional (if they could even wake her). They may not have known what was wrong with her and admitted her under critical until she regained consciousness.

I also refuse to acknowledge that she was raped, but will submit that she was a participant in unlawful underage sexual relations.

Critical condition is actually not vague at all.

Medical state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Critical
Vital signs are unstable and not within normal limits. Patient may be unconscious. Indicators are unfavorable.[1]

[510Meeze]

Or maybe your friends are rapists.

Of course they are.

[meson]

Agreed, I dont think Meson knows that lack of evidence does not disprove something.

I could say the same to you.

[#686578]

I like how you quote me saying that she was admitted under the conditions of unconscious and most likely unknown, and then give a definition where critical condition often means admitted under the conditions of unconscious and unknown.

[Solefald]

Except for the part where she was airlifted to a hospital in critical condition? I am pretty sure that implies something serious happened.

She could have been in critical condition from the alcohol consumption, and physical damage caused by the rape itself. But I already corrected myself, see my previous post

[Ivve]

It does mean that there isn't evidence at the time to even want to bring charges at this time.

I didn't infer at any point that he was innocent. Who is trolling now?

As of now, they haven't formally charged the 19 year old whose semen was actually found inside her, either. So I'm really not sure what else you could have been implying. They also release people when they plan to find evidence to support additional charges, because they like to hit you with everything at once. It's not like they're going to be like Wednesday: rape charge, Thursday: kidnapping charge, Friday: robbery charge, following Tuesday: additional charges. Come on dude.

[archibaldcrane]

Of course they are.

I mean, they're from Oakland right?

[MF Perm tha Fineass]

I like how you quote me saying that she was admitted under the conditions of unconscious and most likely unknown, and then give a definition where critical condition often means admitted under the conditions of unconscious and unknown.

Nice try, pal.

Not within normal limits and unfavorable do not = unknown.

Take another spin on the trolly-go-round and see what you come back with, champ.

[#686578]

I could say the same to you.

I have not asserted any facts. I have assumed that there 1) was a girl, 2) that there was sex, 3) that it was in a public place.

[510Meeze]

Except for the part where she was airlifted to a hospital in critical condition? Generally speaking, that doesn't end up happening in consensual situations. I guess you also don't understand that if someone says "stop" at any point during a sexual encounter, the law holds you responsible for obeying their wishes.

Ok, more devil's advocate for you. Suppose she drank enough alcohol to give her alcohol poisoning. That could give you critical condition at a hospital.

[Ivve]

She could have been in critical condition from the alcohol consumption, and physical damage caused by the rape itself. But I already corrected myself, see my previous post

So trying to have sex with someone while they are so drunk that they need to be airlifted to a hospital for alcohol poisoning indicates that the consent is legitimate? Hmmm.

So continuing to have sex with someone so physically damaged by the ongoing sexual activity that they are in critical condition is not obviously a bad choice that would probably no longer be consensual if they were actually conscious and able to tell you "hey you're quite literally destroying my guts"?

It's not like you're going to be totally unaware that you're fucking someone whose health is in critical condition. It may be vague, but it's not difficult for a layman to infer that someone is beyond reasonable decisionmaking capability. Just saying. You should probably pull your dick out when she's unconscious and either bleeding from one or more orifices or vomiting uncontrollably. I think that pretty much rescinds any consent, explicit or implied.

[510Meeze]

I mean, they're from Oakland right?

Yep, and you must be a cross dressing hooker, you're from Hollywood right?

[510Meeze]

As of now, they haven't formally charged the 19 year old whose semen was actually found inside her, either. So I'm really not sure what else you could have been implying. They also release people when they plan to find evidence to support additional charges, because they like to hit you with everything at once. It's not like they're going to be like Wednesday: rape charge, Thursday: kidnapping charge, Friday: robbery charge, following Tuesday: additional charges. Come on dude.

I think if they can make a rape case stick they would hold him and charge the rest later. If they could only get a robbery charge to stick, I could see them releasing until they could get the more serious charges to stick.

But again, I would think if they thought you were a rapist, they would hold you on whatever they could so you couldn't up and get away.

I'm not a cop, or a DA, and being as they are coming from Richmond, I could imagine them doing stupid things.

[archibaldcrane]

Yep, and you must be a cross dressing hooker, you're from Hollywood right?

Actually living in Koreatown now, I must be Korean.