Girl Gangraped for 2 hours at school while everyone else just watched.

[#686578]

Nice try, pal.

Not within normal limits and unfavorable do not = unknown.

Take another spin on the trolly-go-round and see what you come back with, champ.

Right, because they obviously know her exact vitals before calling it in, rushing her there and making sure she's alive, and admitting her, before they figure out everything that's wrong with her.

She's obviously in unfavorable conditions if she's unconscious. Now, I'm just a simple fairy/lawyer/fireman but it seems to me that as being in a drunken stupor would lower your blood pressure it would appear as if she is outside of normal limits. This is probably easily indicated by she's unconscious.

[510Meeze]

Actually living in Koreatown now, I must be Korean.

You've introduced me to a great line of deductive reasoning, I thank you.

[meson]

I also refuse to acknowledge that she was raped, but will submit that she was a participant in unlawful underage sexual relations.

Right. She was stripped naked, fucked by at least 4 people, beaten, and robbed. This may or may not have started while she was unconscious, but she was unconscious at the end. This was all consensual.

Good luck finding a jury to believe that.

[MF Perm tha Fineass]

Right, because they obviously know her exact vitals before calling it in, rushing her there and making sure she's alive, and admitting her, before they figure out everything that's wrong with her.

She's obviously in unfavorable conditions if she's unconscious. Now, I'm just a simple fairy/lawyer/fireman but it seems to me that as being in a drunken stupor would lower your blood pressure it would appear as if she is outside of normal limits. This is probably easily indicated by she's unconscious.

Ok so here's a real world scenario, I've been in barfights where I was pretty hammered and got hit in the back of the head with a mug and blacked out, woke up in an EMT, was released in 4 hours.

I had a concussion, and was still drunk. They released me of my own recognizance after the police were done questioning me. Why wasn't I placed in 'critical condition'?

Critical condition isn't an arbitrarily thrown around word for 'unconscious' teehee.

[#686578]

We do not know the exact time line, refer to above where in a hypothetical timeline could prove that consensual (statutory) rape took place before any unconsciousness/physical trauma (if any is present at all).

[Solefald]

So trying to have sex with someone while they are so drunk that they need to be airlifted to a hospital for alcohol poisoning indicates that the consent is legitimate? Hmmm.

So continuing to have sex with someone so physically damaged by the ongoing sexual activity that they are in critical condition is not obviously a bad choice that would probably no longer be consensual if they were actually conscious and able to tell you "hey you're quite literally destroying my guts"?

It's not like you're going to be totally unaware that you're fucking someone whose health is in critical condition. It may be vague, but it's not difficult for a layman to infer that someone is beyond reasonable decisionmaking capability. Just saying. You should probably pull your dick out when she's unconscious and either bleeding from one or more orifices or vomiting uncontrollably. I think that pretty much rescinds any consent, explicit or implied.

I never said it was consentual or that it wasn't rape, in fact just the opposite. Maybe you have me confused with someone else?

[510Meeze]

Right. She was stripped naked, fucked by at least 4 people, beaten, and robbed. This may or may not have started while she was unconscious, but she was unconscious at the end. This was all consensual.

Good luck finding a jury to believe that.

It very well could have started as consensual, but people are having a hard time believing that there are females out there who enjoy multiple penises in them outside of the porn industry.

At some point in the evening something went wrong, whether she said no at some point and was beaten and people continued to penetrate her, or she passed out from the alcohol and people continued to penetrate her, or maybe another scenario, no one knows because there isn't enough evidence to make a conclusion yet.

Due process, anyone? Right to a fair trial, anyone?

[#686578]

Ok so here's a real world scenario, I've been in barfights where I was pretty hammered and got hit in the back of the head with a mug and blacked out, woke up in an EMT, was released in 4 hours.

I had a concussion, and was still drunk. They released me of my own recognizance after the police were done questioning me. Why wasn't I placed in 'critical condition'?

Critical condition isn't an arbitrarily thrown around word for 'unconscious' teehee.

Were your vitals in favorable condition?

Were you a 15 year old rape victim?

[meson]

I have not asserted any facts. I have assumed that there 1) was a girl, 2) that there was sex, 3) that it was in a public place.

4) There was physical assault (medical evidence)
5) The victim was robbed (she didn't have her shit with her when the police arrived)
6) She was unconscious (she didn't respond when the police arrived)

You don't have to assume anything, you just have to read the printed story.

[#686578]

4) There was physical assault (medical evidence)
5) The victim was robbed (she didn't have her shit with her when the police arrived)
6) She was unconscious (she didn't respond when the police arrived)

You don't have to assume anything, you just have to read the printed story.

4) What medical evidence has been reported to the nature of the "assault?"
5) She was having sex, it's not unheard of people who have sex to be naked.
6) She was a drunk 15 year old girl, and I've never personally had four penises inside of me, but I could imagine it'd be exhausting.

[510Meeze]

4) There was physical assault (medical evidence)
5) The victim was robbed (she didn't have her shit with her when the police arrived)
6) She was unconscious (she didn't respond when the police arrived)

You don't have to assume anything, you just have to read the printed story.

There was a possible two hour window where there were up to 20 people at the scene. Who is to say she didn't consent with a few, passed out, then as people continued to gather bad stuff started happening?

[meson]

It very well could have started as consensual, but people are having a hard time believing that there are females out there who enjoy multiple penises in them outside of the porn industry.

At some point in the evening something went wrong, whether she said no at some point and was beaten and people continued to penetrate her, or she passed out from the alcohol and people continued to penetrate her, or maybe another scenario, no one knows because there isn't enough evidence to make a conclusion yet.

Due process, anyone? Right to a fair trial, anyone?

If you're still fucking a 15 year old girl in public while she's passed out (I don't care how it started) you go to jail, you do not pass GO, you do not collect 200 dollars.

[510Meeze]

If you're still fucking a 15 year old girl in public while she's passed out (I don't care how it started) you go to jail, you do not pass GO, you do not collect 200 dollars.

Nowhere is it written that the people who penetrated her after she passed out are the same as those who penetrated her before.

[#686578]

If you're still fucking a 15 year old girl in public while she's passed out (I don't care how it started) you go to jail, you do not pass GO, you do not collect 200 dollars.

You seem to neglect reading the part where there could potentially have been consensual sex before she passed out.

[510Meeze]

Bed, see yall in the morning.

[bechyni]

Just because she's in critical condition doesn't mean she was beaten. She could be in critical condition from the alcohol alone not to mention the massive orgy that just went on inside of her.

[MF Perm tha Fineass]

Were your vitals in favorable condition?

Were you a 15 year old rape victim?

I'm fairly certain that the walls of her vagina being pounded didn't put her in critical condition, sir. It was likely a combination of beatings and alcohol. But thanks for making her a rape victim suddenly when it suits your argument.

Now go on back to that good ol' fight of explaining that your 15 year old rape victim wasn't raped.

[meson]

4) What medical evidence has been reported to the nature of the "assault?"
5) She was having sex, it's not unheard of people who have sex to be naked.
6) She was a drunk 15 year old girl, and I've never personally had four penises inside of me, but I could imagine it'd be exhausting.

4)I haven't read the medical reports, I'll admit. I've only inferred from the articles that said medical reports exist because she was flown to a hospital because trained police officers saw her body and thought FLYING her to a hospital was necessary.

5)My purse and jewelry always disappear when I have sex, it sucks.

6)We wont get to see this for awhile, but blood tests will be able to tell whether her unconscious was likely due to intoxication or something else. It's also common for rape victims to go into catatonic states as a defense mechanism. Speculation in return for your speculation.

[meson]

You seem to neglect reading the part where there could potentially have been consensual sex before she passed out.

So you're at crazy party and there mad sex and what not. Your friends girlfriend just passed out drunk after having consensual sex with her boyfriend. Can you legally go fuck her?

[bechyni]

So you're at crazy party and there mad sex and what not. Your friends girlfriend just passed out drunk after having consensual sex with her boyfriend. Can you legally go fuck her?

Maybe if she asked him to join in before passing out