Addon Legs gear stats released

[Konda]

daylight +movement for NIN closed a pretty large gap between the two jobs imo.

[Tsuko_Asura]

can you believe that nin will be able to have 33% movement speed up at night! holy CRAP!

[Konda]

can you believe that nin will be able to have 33% movement speed up at night! holy CRAP!

oh shit!

Now they will literally be able to run circles around PLDs!!!


on a serious note.. with them both equipped, I wonder which one would take preference?

[Asdrabael]

Why do people keep saying they want to do -4% physical for paladin when you can already get -3% for relatively cheap off the AH.

The only stat on this that's really really worth getting for paladin is the 5% cure potency. The second stat is almost irrelevant, just like with the body the fast cast was the important stat. All the other stats are either side-grades or the very barest of improvement.

Cure potency and -physical damage for mages, and movement speed for jobs without any will be what this expansion is remembered for. The melee options seem well......crappy except for ranger.

[SephYuyX]

Why do people keep saying they want to do -4% physical for paladin when you can already get -3% for relatively cheap off the AH.

The only stat on this that's really really worth getting for paladin is the 5% cure potency. The second stat is almost irrelevant, just like with the body the fast cast was the important stat. All the other stats are either side-grades or the very barest of improvement.

Cure potency and -physical damage for mages, and movement speed for jobs without any will be what this expansion is remembered for. The melee options seem well......crappy except for ranger.

Because MOV+ & PDT- is awesome?

[willriker]

figure, till i regain the homam legs, ill fo the HP+ ENM+ Haste+ for legs.

Once i get the homam legs itll be +movement and -PDT till i regain Wlegs.

hahaha lesigh...

[Beave]

Skipped buying MKD, but I really can't pass up movement speed for RDM SMN BRD...Just gonna get me the +8 speed pants and some other augment, probably -pdt, and hope that someday wlegs will drop for me. At that point I might re-do ASA for different pants, but for now movement speed wins.

[Narol]

In before we see mnks floating around w/ kick attacks+5 haste+3

Likewise, in before we see MNKs making Ghetto Haidate get flamed for not wanting to put up with all the bullshit associated with Sky.

To ward off idiots who can't read: I'm not saying Ghetto Haidate is the better choice if you can obtain Byakko's. Obviously, 5% haste > 3%. However, if you're like me and were only able to get Shura before the linkshell broke, $10 to settle for a slightly inferior option and not have to start the haidate list climb again is a very appealing option.

[Rellikard]

oh shit!

Now they will literally be able to run circles around PLDs!!!


on a serious note.. with them both equipped, I wonder which one would take preference?

Pretty sure whichever is the highest will take over.

[Valisk]

on a serious note.. with them both equipped, I wonder which one would take preference?

Highest will overwrite.

Edit: Beaten.

[Seraph]

Pretty sure whichever is the highest will take over.

If it works similar to Mazurka overtaking the +12% boot enchantment, this is correct.

[Thorny]

Likewise, in before we see MNKs making Ghetto Haidate get flamed for not wanting to put up with all the bullshit associated with Sky.

To ward off idiots who can't read: I'm not saying Ghetto Haidate is the better choice if you can obtain Byakko's. Obviously, 5% haste > 3%. However, if you're like me and were only able to get Shura before the linkshell broke, $10 to settle for a slightly inferior option and not have to start the haidate list climb again is a very appealing option.

Sky is not difficult. Byakko is not difficult. A group of 4(any jobs) can easily farm a byakko set and a competent group of 6 can easily kill Byakko. Fuck sky linkshells, get a few friends to help out. I'll even help with byakko itself if you provide pops(I'm on your server, pretty sure you know my name but if not can send PM if interested).

[Malacite]

Sky is not difficult. Byakko is not difficult. A group of 4(any jobs) can easily farm a byakko set and a competent group of 6 can easily kill Byakko. Fuck sky linkshells, get a few friends to help out. I'll even help with byakko itself if you provide pops(I'm on your server, pretty sure you know my name but if not can send PM if interested).

I'm calling bullshit on this. 6 people? With the way he spams para? Yeah, fuck no. I've seen him drop some fairly decent PLD awfully quick. Not everyone has an Aegis or Yagrush you know.


Also, for the Ghetto Kitty pants... assuming you have BB, you could still get 23% haste and have the +5 kicks... that's pretty damned sweet if you're soloing. The 2% difference won't even factor in until you start stacking on loads of haste (march) at which point yes, that 2% difference will grow into a wider and wider disparity.

[Karbuncle]

I'm calling bullshit on this. 6 people? With the way he spams para? Yeah, fuck no. I've seen him drop some fairly decent PLD awfully quick. Not everyone has an Aegis or Yagrush you know.

Well with Six people, lets consider the party WHM,BRD/WHM,PLD,DD,DD,DD (DD can be Physical or Magical(BLM/SCH/ETC).

I'd have to assume only having to paralyna 1-3 People, with 2 or more sources of Paralyna, it wouldn't be too hard.

[BerenTebogo]

I'm calling bullshit on this. 6 people? With the way he spams para? Yeah, fuck no. I've seen him drop some fairly decent PLD awfully quick. Not everyone has an Aegis or Yagrush you know.

I've farmed and killed byakko with 6 people over 40 times to sell haidate to jps. You just have to not be an idiot.

Edit: No relics It's a 10-13 minute kill with 1 BLM and 1 DD/THF and 2 PLD using atonement.

[Malacite]

Not trying to nitpick you tho, but this has been said alot. Drg, compare to Drk, War, and Sam, don't have that much more, if at all, acc.

Comparing to drk, your 22 innate acc is offset by the limitation of not being able to wear Adaberk, which is 22.5 right there. Yes, assuming you are using aurum's cuirass, which is arguably the best TP body, you gain 6 acc, but you also can't use bomblet so that's -2, you don't have DM earring, which is another 3 (2.5 to be exact if you use assault), you don't have perdu line of weapon, which is another -5. Those are just chunk and changes, but consider you have 0 JA that can increase your accuracy compare to the like of Souleater (20), and Diabolic eye (20), nor spell such as lolabsorb-acc. You are actually low on acc in comparison.

Comparing to war, your 22 innate acc is again offset by the limitation of not being able to wear Adaberk. You also don't have bpants for that 11.25 acc (8.25 difference) and bombcore (well, you can say that you can use ace's, but that's about it), and no perdu. And most importantly, you don't have a JA that give you extra accuracy when you needed like aggressor.

Compare to SAM, your 22 innate acc is offset by not able to use hauby +1 and bpants. You also don't have DM earring compare to SAM and they also can use Ace's. Sams are also one of the jobs that can actually /drg with benefits, so the 22 innate is really just 12 if you are comparing to a Sam/drg.

All in all, drg is probably one of the less accurate 2hand jobs if you think about it. Yes, they have the best natural acc, but they lack gear options and JA that can boost it.

Wow shit, never even looked at it that way... life's a bitch ain't it? I suppose this only serves to cement SAM/DRG as the dominant DD for merit PT as well?

[Thorny]

I'm calling bullshit on this. 6 people? With the way he spams para? Yeah, fuck no. I've seen him drop some fairly decent PLD awfully quick. Not everyone has an Aegis or Yagrush you know.


Also, for the Ghetto Kitty pants... assuming you have BB, you could still get 23% haste and have the +5 kicks... that's pretty damned sweet if you're soloing. The 2% difference won't even factor in until you start stacking on loads of haste (march) at which point yes, that 2% difference will grow into a wider and wider disparity.

A) Byakko has no regain. He doesn't spam shit unless you have 10 melee hitting him.

B) Your definition of fairly decent severely varies from mine apparently, that aside a NIN/DRK or DRK/NIN will always be a better byakko tank than a PLD anyway.

C) You're retarded. 23-25 haste will ALWAYS beat 5 kicks on a decently geared mnk, buffs or otherwise. You can only kick once per attack round, not once per attack, which severely diminishes the value of kick attacks.

[FailureMidgard]

I'm calling bullshit on this. 6 people? With the way he spams para? Yeah, fuck no. I've seen him drop some fairly decent PLD awfully quick. Not everyone has an Aegis or Yagrush you know.


Also, for the Ghetto Kitty pants... assuming you have BB, you could still get 23% haste and have the +5 kicks... that's pretty damned sweet if you're soloing. The 2% difference won't even factor in until you start stacking on loads of haste (march) at which point yes, that 2% difference will grow into a wider and wider disparity.

I wish the link in your sig worked.

[Aemora]

Cure potency and -physical damage for mages, and movement speed for jobs without any will be what this expansion is remembered for. The melee options seem well......crappy except for ranger.

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Sup.

Edit: Also, what's the point of telling people what the best augments are... Some people wanna just play the game the way they want to play it. If you foresee that what they choose to augment will be rather pitiful considering the other options that are viable to them, who are you to judge them on what they want? It's not like you personally have to redo the last mission and it's pre-req's if you want to change the stats later on to correct an error. These Augments are about variety, and it takes the fun away from it by telling people what they should get! When I got my Selenian cap, I went out and tested INT vs MAB on Blm and Sch to see which augment would be the best, but that's my own personal opinion. If I picked something retarded, then it's my choice and I'm the one that has to play with it. This elitistism is seriously off putting.

[nitsuj]

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Sup.

Edit: Also, what's the point of telling people what the best augments are... Some people wanna just play the game the way they want to play it. If you foresee that what they choose to augment will be rather pitiful considering the other options that are viable to them, who are you to judge them on what they want? It's not like you personally have to redo the last mission and it's pre-req's if you want to change the stats later on to correct an error. These Augments are about variety, and it takes the fun away from it by telling people what they should get! When I got my Selenian cap, I went out and tested INT vs MAB on Blm and Sch to see which augment would be the best, but that's my own personal opinion. If I picked something retarded, then it's my choice and I'm the one that has to play with it. This elitistism is seriously off putting.

Those are so ugly I like to pretend they don't exist Although I finally gave in and put them back in my idle set.