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  1. #261
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thorny View Post
    A) Byakko has no regain. He doesn't spam shit unless you have 10 melee hitting him.

    B) Your definition of fairly decent severely varies from mine apparently, that aside a NIN/DRK or DRK/NIN will always be a better byakko tank than a PLD anyway.

    C) You're retarded. 23-25 haste will ALWAYS beat 5 kicks on a decently geared mnk, buffs or otherwise. You can only kick once per attack round, not once per attack, which severely diminishes the value of kick attacks.
    Byakko can randomly be an asshat; even a good tank can occasionally (albeit hopefully not consistently...) fall to the kitty.

    That aside though, +7 accuracy would tend to be a better second augment than +5 Kick attacks for MNK's having trouble getting Haidate (plus it would make it more useful on a greater range of jobs).

  2. #262
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemora View Post
    http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/ff...liardTrews.png

    This elitistism is seriously off putting.
    Dont worry too much, i think its just a NA trait,, to be the "best" allways. I actually saw a documentary about steroids and sports, kinda the same line of tought.
    Whatever Augment suits the bests for you its all right,if you dont want/cant do sky its all right too as long as YOU are enjoing the damn game!.

  3. #263
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    Not even a question on my first choice of aument...

    MOVEMENT SPEED FOR MY BRD!!!!!! Pulling a merit party is torture for me since I'm always running around on my rdm with w.legs. Oh how I've longed for movement gear for brd. Plus I can give the middle finger to herald gaiters for my sch and blm, and put all the gil I've been saving for them to better use.

    The second augment will be a very difficult decision however.

  4. #264
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    You guys wanna hear something funny =3

    I have leg armor choices out the wazoo for my other jobs, i'm seriously considering getting the Mage pants with Haste+3 Acc+7 for my Campaign Melee SMN >.>!

    Hat+5
    Body+4
    Belt+4
    Legs+3

    Imagine! +16% on SMN! That plus Hasso, Rose Strap, Rajas,Brutal.... MWUAHAHAHA, Campaign Battles will be mine!

  5. #265
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    Fantastic.

    The Haste Legs for DDs makes it a great stop gap (or improvement) for jobs still missing homam and Byakko (I'd still use homam simply to make use of the augments for other jobs). DRK, BLU + PLD had no other haste leg options other than Homam.

    Easy to get movement speed for any job you want? Fantastic. Nin can outpace things ALL times of day (for e.g)... no need to waste 20 million gil for mage jobs on Gaiters... can relax and not be stressed about Kirin not dropping it (or fuck it altogether).
    I'd love to see Bard kite around Xarcabard mobs indefinitely now
    Major kudos.

  6. #266
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    I'm still waiting for someone to explain why they would pick Siphon +20.

    As a SMN, I'm looking hard at +Movement and one of the pet stats... probably Attack/R-Attack since I got Magic on my body... Any thoughts?

  7. #267
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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    I've farmed and killed byakko with 6 people over 40 times to sell haidate to jps. You just have to not be an idiot.

    Edit: No relics It's a 10-13 minute kill with 1 BLM and 1 DD/THF and 2 PLD using atonement.
    ES Elegy? It really made a huge difference in attack power from what I remember.

  8. #268
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenKnux View Post
    I'm still waiting for someone to explain why they would pick Siphon +20.

    As a SMN, I'm looking hard at +Movement and one of the pet stats... probably Attack/R-Attack since I got Magic on my body... Any thoughts?
    Accuracy from Herder's subligar or AF seems like it would pretty much cover that slot for physical BPs. The pet magic accuracy might be cool, although I think someone mentioned that the merit BPs already have very good magic accuracy.

    (I'm not a SMN though so I might be full of shit xD)

  9. #269
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    I have neither W.Legs or Honam for now.

    Only hard part is deciding if I wanna give this to my DRK or BLU. And by hard, I mean choosing which one I like playing more.

  10. #270
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starr View Post
    lol@2003 logic
    2003 didnt provide accuracy bonus II, nor did drg's have anywhere near whats available to them today.

  11. #271
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tulun View Post
    ES Elegy? It really made a huge difference in attack power from what I remember.
    yes, ES elegy

  12. #272
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    with or without thf meleeing? or was the thf only there for feint? Or did the thf just SA and TA with feint in between only?

  13. #273
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    Quote Originally Posted by Narol View Post
    Likewise, in before we see MNKs making Ghetto Haidate get flamed for not wanting to put up with all the bullshit associated with Sky.

    To ward off idiots who can't read: I'm not saying Ghetto Haidate is the better choice if you can obtain Byakko's. Obviously, 5% haste > 3%. However, if you're like me and were only able to get Shura before the linkshell broke, $10 to settle for a slightly inferior option and not have to start the haidate list climb again is a very appealing option.
    it's a good piece to hold you over, but should still work on haidate.

  14. #274
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    it's a good piece to hold you over, but should still work on haidate.
    fffffff your avatar is ...either amazing or amazingly wrong I can't decide @_@

    I'm probably doing pet attk+7 and move speed +8% for smn, the dragon pants will look retarded with other mage gear but fantastic with YYR, and fuck buying heralds, I can't afford that shit =(

  15. #275
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    I made a post on Allakhazam that got rated down into oblivion but it took about 2-3 hours to make and I think it would help people who browse this site choose which Augments on the legs they want. You can click on any job below the different augments and I got it setup to search ffxiah.com for the specific stats for comparison. Enjoy. I might add the other two add-ons eventually as well. That was a pain in the ass to make.

    Augments + Links to Pre-Existing Gear

    If anyone of you are members on Allakhazam and use my post that I worked on would you please rate it back up? Thank you very much

  16. #276
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyte View Post
    Byakko can randomly be an asshat; even a good tank can occasionally (albeit hopefully not consistently...) fall to the kitty.
    Only if you're not ready for it, really. I used to have trouble with him, but when you stop trying to rely on shadows, and are just prepared to eat damage when its going to happen regardless of how adept you are with Utsu, he's pretty laughable to tank. In full damage reduction, its pretty easy to survive multiple TA attack rounds, even with a Razor Fang thrown in there.

    And lol@ someone calling six-man Byakko hard. My three-man team never wiped a single time in over thirty merc. kills, and half the time I was dualboxing one of the other RDM

  17. #277
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    Still confused why some smns want to get accuracy for their augment. The af pants alone give +14 accuracy so there is really no reason to use this for a BP macro piece or even avatar TP piece.

  18. #278
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    I can't believe everyone is ignoring the Waltz -5 TP

    That will make /DNC solo'ing even more applicable for so many things. 30TP for Cure Waltz II (Yes, please)

  19. #279
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream Soda View Post
    it's a good piece to hold you over, but should still work on haidate.
    Yes, but all I'm saying is a MNK in Ghetto Haidate isn't gimp.

  20. #280
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    I'm having issues wrapping my head around the legs for BLM.

    4MAB + 4Macc + 2 INT Vs. Mahatma's 8 INT Vs. Morrigan

    Originally I was going to make these my gaiters -1 but now I'm rethinking that thought process a little. My gut is telling me to hold out for Morrigans but I'm really interested to see the damage difference between these new legs and Mahatma.

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