Introducing the Add-on Trilogy Bonus Gift! (11/02/2009)

[Corrderio]

We told them AV was unkillable, and they were nice enough to give us a video! They are totally listening.


But seriously, I agree, and that's what piss me off the most about SE. I'm not asking to be spoon fed, but there is so many obvious improvement (sometime minors, other time majors) that could easily be done, it's annoying to see them not care.


If every other ingame problem were solved during normal update, I wouldn't give a shit about these add-on, but lately, it feels like they are starving us on purpose of selling more "outside" material. The mog satchet was probably the biggest slap in the face for me.

I do have to agree with this, I do know the whole "If you don't like it then don't buy it" card holds some water but still. With some of the unique/good combos you can get from Addon rewards you pretty much need to get them. And with how poor the stories are it's obvious they only did this to milk money from us. Seriously ACP made no sense at all. And I will agree the real driving point for a security token for me was for the satchel.

Personally, I hope XIV doesn't pull this shit when it comes out.

[Carlyle]

Interesting but it's just too little too late.

[Kaslo]

I youtube'd the cutscenes, read the script, and imagined myself running around delkfut tower and la theigne. As much as I liked normal expansion story (or even quest like serpent general), they did feel subpar and unimportant compared to what we get normally.

Also, I for one, hope that you're always up to date with missions. Otherwise, you're a big liar.

I usually am, except as of late I have gotten behind on WOTG because Law School has been especially busy the last like 6 months and I have been only able to play for like 3-5 hours a week, usually only for limbus.

[Mirage]

I just wanted to chime in that the majority of the whole "RMT-haxed accounts conspiracy" nonsense can be attributed to player stupidity. $10 for a security token is just SE taking advantage of paranoid players. That being said, it's ridiculous I would have to spend $10 for +inventory space when I couldn't care less about their "security" token. It would only be fair if they also added an in-game quest for it considering how many years the player-base was bitching for something of this nature.

Well, shipping that security token to where I live might actually cost close to $10, so I'm not really sure if they actually made a profit worth mentioning.

[Sho]

I best not be seeing you on mah FFXIVs, Kaylia. :O

[dejet]

I'm not. I'm bitching at SquareEnix's method, and people are defending them.... I don't give shit if you like them or not, that's your problem. It's not like you can tell stockholm syndrome's victim they are wrong, because they do like their aggressor.

FFXI is all but dead with 14 on the way, SE is giving us toys to play with for extra money, who the hell cares? you want them to stop their full steam ahead order on 14 to keep 11 going? you of all people who quit, I would think would want them to work on 14. This stuff is coming out to cater to the people who still play. SE needs to make money off 11 to keep running it.

Stuff like this that people buy lets them do so, at the same time it adds things to the game. the aug system was a cool idea(like random stuff for redoing fights). or a shot at the best back for a smn off a fast run quest up in that tower.

If it was not for people buying what you think is crap FFXI would be stagnant. I have fun with this stuff, I logged on for the moogle stuff when I had not played in a fairly long time. It was fast quests with a pimping final fight. 1st add on the only stuff worth it was the gob fight and the final fight if you ask me.

In the end I think it comes down to SE giving player's stuff to hold them over til 14 comes out and keep FF11 worth their time.

I do not log on anymore to do namis really or even limbus. If I am on when my shell is doing it i take part in it. I however will make time for when the add on comes out to do it.

Edit: I have to ask you this, have you ever taken a basic economics class. What you are saying is the foundation of owning a business. This might just not be a product for you. All you are doing is saying it in one of the most mean ways.

[dejet]

Well, shipping that security token to where I live might actually cost close to $10, so I'm not really sure if they actually made a profit worth mentioning.

Again lets do some basic math, ok?

SE 300,000 players at $10 each.

$10x300,000 = 3,000,000

wow

20,000,000 players at $6 each screw the 20,000,000 lets just say only 20% bought the darn thing

$6x4,000,000 = 24,000,000

you tell me who the hell is screwing over their players for money now?

SE had to of sold a hell of a lot less then WoW, so odds are they could not get a deal as good as them.

[Vandalhart]

Hrm.. Will this be given to all characters on an account?
It would make getting my mules to Jeuno faster (one's already been there), just get someone to invite in the Chocobo Circuit (unless there's an added restriction to that zone). You'd still have to do the run to Jeuno, and I guess I'd have to get the characters to level 30.. but knowing that I have the option eventually is nice.

I'm glad I grabbed an Anniversary Ring for my mules way back. That should make getting to 30 easier if I decide to do it. I also did a supply run to Valkurm for Sandy/Bastok fame before heading to Jeuno. I already have to level them to 10 to use the Moogle Warps if they are available.

[Kaylia]

I best not be seeing you on mah FFXIVs, Kaylia. :O

Probably not, but I'm all for paying 40$+12*x and having a huge world to explore, with a complex lore. Plus, there is the whole friends aspect that is beyond my control, and is the main reason why I play mmo.

One thing for sure if I end up playing, I'm definitively out the moment they stop giving us worthwhile update, because that's when shit hit the fan.

FFXI is all but dead with 14 on the way, SE is giving us toys to play with for extra money, who the hell cares? you want them to stop their full steam ahead order on 14 to keep 11 going? you of all people who quit, I would think would want them to work on 14. This stuff is coming out to cater to the people who still play. SE needs to make money off 11 to keep running it.

There is a word for this, and it's called "selling", and the virtual items you're talking about take approximatively 10 minutes to create. The production cost of these scenario is extremely small compared to price tag if you include the montly fee you're paying as well.

If it was not for people buying what you think is crap FFXI would be stagnant. I have fun with this stuff, I logged on for the moogle stuff when I had not played in a fairly long time. It was fast quests with a pimping final fight. 1st add on the only stuff worth it was the gob fight and the final fight if you ask me.

They are not losing money. If people were leaving, they would be forced to revamp many things to keep players from quitting. Look how much every other MMO improved when players started leaving. StarWars Galaxy, Age of Conan...etc...all of them were revamped completely in an attempt to stop the leak.

Edit: I have to ask you this, have you ever taken a basic economics class. What you are saying is the foundation of owning a business. This might just not be a product for you. All you are doing is saying it in one of the most mean ways.

Social sciences can go rot somewhere else, and it doesn't take a major in economy to understand how capitalism works. Your statement is ridiculous

I will ask you the same question, because apparently, you don't seem to understand that when the customer refuse to buy something, the company has to change its approach to increase its sales. "I have to buy to support the company" is a fucking retarded mentality when they are still making ton of money from a product. They will take as much as you're willing to give, and apparently, you are willing to give them money for crap with sugar coating.

[Dragir]

No your experience was nullified when you quit and still continue to QQ like a bitch over a FUCKING GAME.

People who say things like this seem to have forgetten that it's also hundreds, sometimes thousands (at this point) of someone's hard-earned money, as well as time invested... or they just don't care about their own time and money. In which case, they're probably wasting someone else's. -_-

[Kaslo]

People who say things like this seem to have forgetten that it's also hundreds, sometimes thousands (at this point) of someone's hard-earned money, as well as time invested... or they just don't care about their own time and money. In which case, they're probably wasting someone else's. -_-

If he hadn't quit I would feel more about that...

[Kaylia]

If he hadn't quit I would feel more about that...

Your opinion is clearly invalid. You suffer from bias because you're addicted to the game.

Prove me wrong.


(I too can uses fallacies to discredit opinion)