Post Your Augmented Items IV: NPC it.

[Byrthnoth]

It's really hard to get an idea of how common something is in the augment system when looking at screenshots of it online, as they're obviously going to be a biased towards extremely good and bad augments. Things like "lool, I got STR-1, VIT+2, DEX-1, MAB+1 on my Amemet+1" or "Acc+4, DEX+2 {Please check it}" Most augments are likely mediocre and don't really affect the piece's usage, so people don't bother to post them.

That said, just looking at the possible augments I'd estimate it to be below a 5% chance of getting Acc at all, possibly ~1%ish for max Acc. Also, the max recorded Acc+ posted on an Amemet +1 is +3. You could probably get that paired with DEX+1 if you were lucky enough. Your best bet is to augment a piece that has multiple ways it can become better. For instance, Amemet +1 can get +2-3 Acc on it and become better than Forager's in most situations. It could also get +DEX, +AGI, or +RAcc. Four ways to become better, and the only stat that you can and don't want to lose is STR. Your odds of making it better aren't *that* high, but your odds of making it worse aren't high either.

[Khajit]

I've seen +4 before on amemit. It just wasnt one that i owned.

[FailureMidgard]

It's really hard to get an idea of how common something is in the augment system when looking at screenshots of it online, as they're obviously going to be a biased towards extremely good and bad augments. Things like "lool, I got STR-1, VIT+2, DEX-1, MAB+1 on my Amemet+1" or "Acc+4, DEX+2 {Please check it}" Most augments are likely mediocre and don't really affect the piece's usage, so people don't bother to post them.

That said, just looking at the possible augments I'd estimate it to be below a 5% chance of getting Acc at all, possibly ~1%ish for max Acc. Also, the max recorded Acc+ posted on an Amemet +1 is +3. You could probably get that paired with DEX+1 if you were lucky enough. Your best bet is to augment a piece that has multiple ways it can become better. For instance, Amemet +1 can get +2-3 Acc on it and become better than Forager's in most situations. It could also get +DEX, +AGI, or +RAcc. Four ways to become better, and the only stat that you can and don't want to lose is STR. Your odds of making it better aren't *that* high, but your odds of making it worse aren't high either.

The odds of not making it worse only matters if you just plan to augment 1 and keep it if you get +resist. If you're spamming it, who cares. If you get 1 with +10 dark resist, +5 dark resist is now the exact same as -15 STR for all future augments.

[Clave]

I've seen +4 before on amemit. It just wasnt one that i owned.

Yap, I've got +4 on my Amemet.

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/attac...1&d=1258626987

[Raen Ryong]

Holy shit so hot do want

[pchan]

Anyone tried to augment the new accura capes? They're already worlds better than amemet mantle or even the +1 for the level

No, lol. Acc 3 will never beat 15 attack/3 str ... Spam crab sushi and equip attack gear.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/ff...los_Mantle.gif

[BerenTebogo]

No, lol. Acc 3 will never beat 15 attack/3 str ... Spam crab sushi and equip attack gear.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/ff...los_Mantle.gif

ITT: Pchan doesn't read half the thread and makes themselves look like an idiot again.

[pchan]

ITT: Pchan doesn't read half the thread and makes themselves look like an idiot again.

I read, and you argued that getting an augment on this crap cape will beat a HQ amemet. It won't.

If you want to augment something, augment a HQ amemet into + accuracy or a forager's. But even then, pizza and sushi make it useless anyway.

[BerenTebogo]

And we already talked about sushi and ATT gear and it was more along the lines of that most pickup melee refuse to use food on birds and more people on BG than would admit do the same thing in EXP.

Under those circumstances the mantle > amemet. Seriously, you skimmed and tried to get in quick making a snappy retort but you made yourself look retarded.

Color me surprised.

[Tsuko_Asura]

I love how the people who refuse to eat crab sushi or mithkabobs against birds are the same who are absolutely adamant about dual-bards or a bard and corsair combo, when they're basically passing up a additional minuet/madrigal.

[BerenTebogo]

I love how the people who refuse to eat crab sushi or mithkabobs against birds are the same who are absolutely adamant about dual-bards or a bard and corsair combo, when they're basically passing up a additional minuet/madrigal.

It really is the most annoying thing for me as I level COR. I open up every party with "any melee not have food?" and then choose rolls based on that.

More often than not I find myself saying "Sucks, guess I'll just COR roll myself then" and rolling in the delicious bawwwww that follows.

[Tricen]

Fk that, if I had an actual melee job, I'd try hard to do the best I could until I ADD out and get bored of meriting.

[Gunslinger]

Yap, I've got +4 on my Amemet.

http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/attac...1&d=1258626987

Did you make that on eraser? I've managed to sink about ~1 mil on mantles so far with my best augment being +11 hp / no negatives. FOV is like crack

[pchan]

No, 3 accuracy will never ever beat 15 attack 2 str on probably any job, even if you don't eat food. Let me do quick math (you know multiplication and division, this kind of things)

~ 400 base atack, no food
~ dia III
~ double march
~ 90% acc
target mobs would have 320 defense, and +7 level

amemet +1 : 0.5 fstr 16 attack

pdif(400+16,320*0.85,7)/pdif(400,320*0.85,7)=1.165/1.094=+6.45%
let x the melee % and (1-x) be the ws %

Neglecting fstr, amemet+1 increase the damage to
x*1.0645+(1-x)
The acc +3 back increases the damage to
1*(91.5/90)

so acc 3 > attack 16 whenever
1*(91.5/90) > x*1.0645+(1-x)

which gives x < 26%...

It's even less if you account for the fstr ... so yeah, stop the bullcrap with acc3 beating 15 attack yo.

[BerenTebogo]

You apparently don't realize this whole discussion is about Level 54-63ish parties on Colibri do you. This is far more amusing than it should be. <3 sleep deprivation.

Edit: Hey Pchan, don't be so mayo.

[Clave]

Did you make that on eraser? I've managed to sink about ~1 mil on mantles so far with my best augment being +11 hp / no negatives. FOV is like crack

Yes, that was from Eraser in Sky FoV. I was not expecting it at all, seeing as every other augment I've done has given me +element or +CHR. It was quite a nice surprise, I did a double take. I will note though that this was from before the last update, I'd estimate about 4 weeks ago.

My girlfriend has tried augmenting something like 15 Rainbow Capes now and has never gotten anything good either. FoV just tends to suck But the possibility of something good is still there.

[BerenTebogo]

I have some nice stuff (INT+3 Auster's, DEX+3 dusk gloves wife has MAB+ jupiters) but I stopped augmenting pretty much after I had to npc a pair of Alky's bracelets

[pchan]

You apparently don't realize this whole discussion is about Level 54-63ish parties on Colibri do you. This is far more amusing than it should be. <3 sleep deprivation.

Edit: Hey Pchan, don't be so mayo.

Amemet is 61, so why even comparing something to something else that you can't equip...
I think you don't know what the fuck you are arguing about then.

[BerenTebogo]

Just iddle'n about.

[Despain]

Amemet is 61, so why even comparing something to something else that you can't equip...
I think you don't know what the fuck you are arguing about then.

Technically speaking, you can equip an Amemet mantle @54.