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    Why is there more XI discussion in our poor old TERA thread than there is in the XI thread!?

    Welt was also leader/co-leader of some pretty important LSs in XI dating back 8+years ago so a billion gil should be nothing too unbelievable. I clearly remember 600 mil+ characters in my own LS in Rag, with 100~ mil payouts in items/mats from time to time, and that LS only lasted about 4 years.

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    I led(key) an LS which monopolized HNM for a very long time and it was 50% JP 50% NA. We ran 100% JP LS out of Aery/KB long before there was any patch to make NM unclaimable (ie - we had the first bots before anyone else even knew they existed - Moinar/Muko and myself, both NA, made 80% of our claims). I camped LoO with 3 of my JP members and monopolized that for about 2 years and we sold Krakens. There was 4 of us, and we rotated drops in round robin (didn't matterif you were actually present or not, twice I wokeup and had a Kraken waiting on me as a gift), and you could do with it what you wanted. When someone got tired of it, they just took a 3-5 day break and then had to return so someone else could take a break. I sold 3 at 300Mil each (as did most of us), and I had 2 of my own. My main character, Welt, probably had 2 billion worth of items+gil when it was banned the first time.

    The other character I had with a billion sold krakens, but mostly got money from using LS points and buying mass currency low, selling it back high. (Christmas influx got the 2nd one there quickly). We had over 200 Dragon Talon when it was 11 mil. (Or whatever the Xmas time Fafnir drop was that was 11 mil)


    Believe it or not, the 2nd char I had banned was only for using asian characters in a mule bazaar, which had been on it for years and I forgot about.

    Edit - Random story, but I had full kaiser in inventory and a level 1 PLD for the longest time XD With Abjurations. This was when the best PLD had Adaman and the RARE koenig (NA).

    Edit 2 - I plan on using Fenux for all my $ in TERA once it hits retail!!! <3

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    :3

    I took 7 classes to 14, then 18 while my Priest was 38 after beta. I made around 1 stack of purple pots and 3-4 red pots per alt. Purple stacks = 500k, red singles = 100k, orange singles are 150k. Alts alone net me around 5 million a wave, while not pulling ahead of my GF on my main. I have 5 alts deleting ATM so I can do it again. I mean, not like it's hard making money post 40 but yeah, shit's expensive. :3

    e: INC pot price drop. :3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenux View Post
    :3

    I took 7 classes to 14, then 18 while my Priest was 38 after beta. I made around 1 stack of purple pots and 3-4 red pots per alt. Purple stacks = 500k, red singles = 100k, orange singles are 150k. Alts alone net me around 5 million a wave, while not pulling ahead of my GF on my main. I have 5 alts deleting ATM so I can do it again. I mean, not like it's hard making money post 40 but yeah, shit's expensive. :3

    e: INC pot price drop. :3
    You can make a lot more pots by doing the frog area quests in the early 20s.
    I have 36 red pots in warehouse with only 3 characters lvled, I also skipped that whole frog area on my main cuz I out lvled it. I should probably go back and do those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenux View Post
    Goldsinking in TERA usually consists of enchanting weapons and armor(especially post 6)...

    There should have been more cosmetic luxuries in this game TBH. Mounts, dye, etc.
    Thanks for the info. So basically its the good ol' Korean standard of enchanting weapons. On that note, how is this handled? I remember when I was playing Aion, a lot of people just didn't bother. The armor enchanting really did not matter too much. How is armor enchanting made worth the effort in Tera? Is it giving extra stats or is it just armor/defense like Aion did. If it is just armor, then does that really effect incoming damage to a noticeable degree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by niwaar View Post
    Thanks for the info. So basically its the good ol' Korean standard of enchanting weapons. On that note, how is this handled? I remember when I was playing Aion, a lot of people just didn't bother. The armor enchanting really did not matter too much. How is armor enchanting made worth the effort in Tera? Is it giving extra stats or is it just armor/defense like Aion did. If it is just armor, then does that really effect incoming damage to a noticeable degree?

    You get a +% to your base stats and at each stage 3/6/9 an extra bonus.

    Some weapons (Craftable) get 4 enchantable bonuses 3/5/7/9.
    Base weapon bonuses are mostly random, and enchantable ones are always random.
    Getting to +6 is pretty easy and cheap, but beyond that it's a huge money sink.

    Enchanting and replacing broken crystals are this game's money sinks, but they don't take money out of the economy.
    I'd say transporation (tele scrolls for 11k/ea, and ports to quests hubs are 7k-ish at 50 areas), green charms (17k/ea), and maybe white crystals (41k/ea for the lv48s) are the only things that take money out but they're not expansive at all.

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    So who is making the guild for US retail :3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloudius View Post

    You get a +% to your base stats and at each stage 3/6/9 an extra bonus.

    Some weapons (Craftable) get 4 enchantable bonuses 3/5/7/9.
    Base weapon bonuses are mostly random, and enchantable ones are always random.
    Getting to +6 is pretty easy and cheap, but beyond that it's a huge money sink.

    Enchanting and replacing broken crystals are this game's money sinks, but they don't take money out of the economy.
    I'd say transporation (tele scrolls for 11k/ea, and ports to quests hubs are 7k-ish at 50 areas), green charms (17k/ea), and maybe white crystals (41k/ea for the lv48s) are the only things that take money out but they're not expansive at all.
    nice to see your basic spells is still what you're going to be using at 50 >_________________________>

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    Quote Originally Posted by aznmajiktaru View Post
    nice to see your basic spells is still what you're going to be using at 50 >_________________________>
    It's mostly the mid lvl spells that are very situational (Bind, Lockon, aoe sleep, charged up energy ball), but the lowbie spells are fast/low MP/low cd/decent dmg. Great fillers between my big stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katlan View Post
    So who is making the guild for US retail :3?
    Im probably not gonna play on NA servers this time. Didn't think being so far from server would effect me much in Aion (ala XI), but boy was I wrong!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weltall View Post
    I led(key) an LS which monopolized HNM for a very long time and it was 50% JP 50% NA. We ran 100% JP LS out of Aery/KB long before there was any patch to make NM unclaimable (ie - we had the first bots before anyone else even knew they existed - Moinar/Muko and myself, both NA, made 80% of our claims). I camped LoO with 3 of my JP members and monopolized that for about 2 years and we sold Krakens. There was 4 of us, and we rotated drops in round robin (didn't matterif you were actually present or not, twice I wokeup and had a Kraken waiting on me as a gift), and you could do with it what you wanted. When someone got tired of it, they just took a 3-5 day break and then had to return so someone else could take a break. I sold 3 at 300Mil each (as did most of us), and I had 2 of my own. My main character, Welt, probably had 2 billion worth of items+gil when it was banned the first time.

    The other character I had with a billion sold krakens, but mostly got money from using LS points and buying mass currency low, selling it back high. (Christmas influx got the 2nd one there quickly). We had over 200 Dragon Talon when it was 11 mil. (Or whatever the Xmas time Fafnir drop was that was 11 mil)


    Believe it or not, the 2nd char I had banned was only for using asian characters in a mule bazaar, which had been on it for years and I forgot about.

    Edit - Random story, but I had full kaiser in inventory and a level 1 PLD for the longest time XD With Abjurations. This was when the best PLD had Adaman and the RARE koenig (NA).

    Edit 2 - I plan on using Fenux for all my $ in TERA once it hits retail!!! <3
    Sweet jesus, so much painfully obvious, unprovoked..bragging? lol, and a further edit for a dash extra, in case we missed the point. I don't know/care about the infinite gil nonsense, or any exploits, but having money or knowing people with money does not make one privy to all goings-on in the game, if credibility was the alleged point of that post.

    not hating, in fact I commend you for cheating to obtain high status in the game, truly the American way. But that post in the tera thread, me no understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cloudius View Post
    Im probably not gonna play on NA servers this time. Didn't think being so far from server would effect me much in Aion (ala XI), but boy was I wrong!
    Where you playing at then? Staying in K-Tera? Or talking about EU servers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BGtemp View Post
    Where you playing at then? Staying in K-Tera? Or talking about EU servers?
    EU servers.

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    So... moving away from the economic stuff, but asking more questions...

    Looking at the classes, are both Lancer and Warrior of equal capability in tanking? Are both Mystic and Priest fairly equal in healing? Strengths, weaknesses? A little discussion about game systems rather than economics and how pretty the game is, is a good thing after all.

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    Game is pretty, and economics is a big word.

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    Lancer is the tank you want. Warrior isn't as great, and even worse since it's so latency dependent.

    Mystics are better than Priests in the sense that the can drop MP orbs for players in PT to collect, channel MP drains through players, and can dispel mobs, not just party members. Priest would be a better instant healer IMO with the multiple heals and all but Mystics offer more solo friendly capabilities such as pets and DOTs.

    I'll answer Slayer and Zerker for you, since I know it will come up again soon. Zerker is a slower, stronger, charge based class. Slayer offers ranged attacks, is a bit quicker, and wears leather, as opposed to plate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niwaar View Post
    I remember when I was playing Aion, a lot of people just didn't bother. The armor enchanting really did not matter too much.
    When exactly did you play Aion, because this is the most incorrect statement I have ever seen, and I know everyone else is thinking the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BisonDollars View Post
    not hating, in fact I commend you for cheating to obtain high status in the game, truly the American way.
    Considering Americans ended up being last on the bandwagon of botness, this is a very false statement.


    Sup 4 posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by niwaar View Post
    So... moving away from the economic stuff, but asking more questions...

    Looking at the classes, are both Lancer and Warrior of equal capability in tanking? Are both Mystic and Priest fairly equal in healing? Strengths, weaknesses? A little discussion about game systems rather than economics and how pretty the game is, is a good thing after all.
    Fenux covers the Lancer vs Warrior bit with the pretty solid answer. However, it should be noted that BHS is currently not 100% pleased with the state of the Warrior class and will continue to alter/improve it etc. Perhaps one day we'll see a more "equal" playing ground for the two classes. Ive seen a few videos where a Warrior tank (evasion based) is doing quite well vs a large mob, however I also tell you that the majority of party videos in general, show Lancer tanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenux View Post
    When exactly did you play Aion, because this is the most incorrect statement I have ever seen, and I know everyone else is thinking the same?
    Wasn't it like a year after NA/EU release that it became worthwhile?

    I remember it used to give nothing but defense at one point.

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