For BG fitness fanatics, a question..

[Moss]

btw this article explained things pretty well, about how bad it actually is. I had no idea, interesting stuff
http://www.musclebomb.com/cardio_empty_stomach.html

I usually wait about 30 minutes after I wake up to make my big breakfast, which then takes another 15 minutes. That article leads me to believe that eating a few slices of bread right when I wake up would be a good idea to get my body out of muscle catabolization mode, yes?

Relevant part of the article:

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When we do cardio in the morning on an empty stomach we pretty much eliminate option one. Muscle glycogen stores can never be 100% depleted, if they were we wouldn't be able to move. But, there are three places where glycogen can be found in the body (remember - we don't actually eat glycogen). The first place is in the liver, the second place is in the muscles, and the third place is in the blood stream. In the morning, after your 6-10 hours with no energy (food) liver glycogen will be just about depleted, blood glycogen will have been burned for energy, and muscle glycogen will have been severely depleted. What this means is that your body is in a state of extreme catabolism, it is literally breaking down muscle at an alarming rate. This is because when the liver runs out of glycogen it takes alanine, arginine and the other substrates, from the muscles in order to make more. This is muscle breakdown (atrophy). After waking up, you start to do activities (yes, going to the bathroom and watching TV is an "activity"). What this means is that you are increasing the bodies immediate energy requirement, which means - more muscle being broken down to meet energy needs.

[Atreides]

i would say if you're that worried move your breakfast a little earlier, but I don't think 30 mins is that big of a deal

[Caiyuo]

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[Daemien]

Someone who is running that much on a daily basis would likely not have any fat, and therefore the body would turn to protein for energy when glycogen levels are low - making it important to put carbs into their system so muscles aren't tapped to burn for energy. An extreme case such as this isn't normal. most people don't work out that hard on a daily basis. Muscle loss, from what I have always understood, is very difficult to 'achieve' under normal exercising conditions.

Our bodies aren't made to turn to protein as a first source of energy. Carbs provide the most energy (usable calories) of any type of food, while proteins provide the least in general. Fats generally fall somewhere in between, because they are harder to break down than carbs. That, in and of itself, should be a good indicator of the energy hierarchy for the human body.

This energy hierarchy is what I always learned in school.

I'm not saying your theory is wrong, just want it explained metabolically how it works exactly.

edit: I'm really not trying to get in a pissing contest here, I'm genuinely curious. Personally, I'm trying to lean out and cut these last few pounds of fat, so I'm willing to do a fasting workout a couple times a week to speed it up according to how I learned metabolic pathways. If you feel like you have to eat before your workouts, more power to you. At this point, I don't feel like it's necessary for me at the level of workout that I'm currently doing.

Fats have about twice the caloric density of carbs. They aren't harder to break down, your body just preferentially uses sugars.

[Lucavi]

Recently joined Planet Fitness. I love that place! 3 days a week with running on off-days. Can't wait for next year's summer body.

[Belkin]

Damn you Planet Fitness! They don't even have god damn benches or squat racks. Only 3 smith machines. Really crampin my style. No EZ bars or straight bars either. Is this all PF's or just the one in my town?

[Atreides]

they're all pretty terrible

[Biddinger]

I assume a lot of you beef cakes eat eggs frequently...have you stopped because of the recall?

I have eggs that are "safe", but I'm still a little nervous to eat them.

[Osede]

Honestly, I don't care about the recall. We still finished the eggs we bought at walmart last week. Just coincidence that because I want to try some luck on mega millions in friday, I bought our new eggs in my local food store instead at walmart.

[Belkin]

Make sure you cook them thoroughly and you shouldn't have any problems. The eggs were already recalled, so any you buy from this point forward shouldn't be contaminated. If you are really worried about the ones you already have, just go buy new ones.

[Diamicles]

Nice info in that article Atrei. That's exactly the kind of explanation I was looking for.

I have been eating a banana before I work out in the morning now...it's not much, but it's hard for me to eat more than that early in the morning (wake up at 430). I follow up the workout with a protein shake in light soy milk, and an egg white.

[Nyx]

I boil a dozen eggs every Sunday and eat a couple each morning (sans yolks) in addition to other stuff. I thought I'd be sick of them by now, but somehow I'm not yet. Plus, they're pretty freakin' convenient.

[Weiing]

Apparently there may be another recall coming soon? Not surprising...

Makes you really want to be alert as to where your food comes from. If only everyone had access to local farmers they could go to buy their eggs... Not only could you see the living conditions of the chicken, but they are usually cheaper. I miss buying local eggs.

edit: My future goal is to have my own chicken coop! It'd be a good investment I think. >_>

[*Shinzon*]

Really? I hadn't heard about that. We buy our Eggs from Costco in bulk and they weren't the original affected brands. Sucks though that all this starts because of lax regulation by the FDA.

[Jintu]

random question, rant on treadmills. All summer I've been running on my home treadmill every day for roughly 1.5-2miles a day, always starting walking at level 3, then 4 and around .35 miles going 5-6 the rest of the way. I've had no problems doing this all summer, no aches/pains. Now, I've moved back to school and these treadmills at the student gym are killing me for some reason. I can't even go .5/mile without my legs/shins/calfs completely hurting/burning. I do the same warmup routine, starting out walking/quick walk then run, with 5min stretching before it. I have noticed that these treadmills feel like freaking rocks/hard as hell concrete compared to my one at home so im not sure if that has anything to do with it. Anyone ever experience something like this?

tldr: home treadmill: everything's good, school's treadmill: hurts like hell.

[Nyx]

Is the incline the same? The slightest difference in incline can bring on a world of hurt.

[Meat]

random question, rant on treadmills. All summer I've been running on my home treadmill every day for roughly 1.5-2miles a day, always starting walking at level 3, then 4 and around .35 miles going 5-6 the rest of the way. I've had no problems doing this all summer, no aches/pains. Now, I've moved back to school and these treadmills at the student gym are killing me for some reason. I can't even go .5/mile without my legs/shins/calfs completely hurting/burning. I do the same warmup routine, starting out walking/quick walk then run, with 5min stretching before it. I have noticed that these treadmills feel like freaking rocks/hard as hell concrete compared to my one at home so im not sure if that has anything to do with it. Anyone ever experience something like this?

tldr: home treadmill: everything's good, school's treadmill: hurts like hell.

it's entirely normal, school treadmills get 200x the use of a home treadmill it's going to have more wear and tear.

[Belkin]

random question, rant on treadmills. All summer I've been running on my home treadmill every day for roughly 1.5-2miles a day, always starting walking at level 3, then 4 and around .35 miles going 5-6 the rest of the way. I've had no problems doing this all summer, no aches/pains. Now, I've moved back to school and these treadmills at the student gym are killing me for some reason. I can't even go .5/mile without my legs/shins/calfs completely hurting/burning. I do the same warmup routine, starting out walking/quick walk then run, with 5min stretching before it. I have noticed that these treadmills feel like freaking rocks/hard as hell concrete compared to my one at home so im not sure if that has anything to do with it. Anyone ever experience something like this?

tldr: home treadmill: everything's good, school's treadmill: hurts like hell.

You know, I find that this applies to a lot more than treadmills. Everytime I change gyms from the Campus Gym to Planet Fitness, I always need time to adjust to the different benches bars, different dumbbells and different equipment in general. It's not a HUGE deal, but there is definitely an adjustment period.

As for the treadmill, it may have something to due with the material underneath OR the amount of give it has when you put your weight on it. I know when I run outside on the road, my knees and shins get torn the hell up because the pavement has no give at all. I can do the treadmill for a lot longer because it is less impact on your legs.

[Byrthnoth]

My future goal is to have my own chicken coop! It'd be a good investment I think. >_>

It'll be a freaking stinky investment. Do yourself a favor and keep buying eggs.


Local/Organic vs. Not is sort of a wash for me. After reading The Omnivore's Dilemma, my opinion is that eating less processed foods is probably a good thing. However, a sub-conclusion of the book was that anything you'd buy at supermarkets is likely organic/local in name only.

Here's an interesting link if you feel like testing how "local" your milk is:
http://whereismymilkfrom.com/help.php
I've gotten "local" milk from three states away. We found "local" blueberries the other day that were grown in Florida (I live in PA). "Local" tomatoes from California. I've yet to find anything that's international and labeled "local," but I'm sure it's out there.

Also, all the chicken labels (Free-range, Organic, etc) are about as literally accurate as the label "Boneless" (thinking of the Far Side comic).

[Meat]

edit: My future goal is to have my own chicken coop! It'd be a good investment I think. >_>

why?
don't u have your own eggs?


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