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    Yeah. barbells are easier than dumbbells for me, too...and when I would workout with my fiance and his brother in law, I would notice the same thing. I think much of the dumbbell vs. barbell is the issue of balance, stability, and the imbalance of having a dominant/weaker arm. My left arm being weaker is far more obvious when using a dumbbell because I am pressing the dumbbells separately. Whereas with the barbell, there's a bar, which helps balance the weight more evenly, which helps in stabilizing the weight? That's my assumption. I"m sure residue/atreides could offer deeper insight.

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    you're just not used to it. do it off and on for a few weeks, and it will become easier, imo. That's what happened to me when i was going crazy with upper body workouts. But i was also doing it in high reps in 3 sets on an small incline. I dont notice a difference now, since im used to both, but i still prefer dumbells just because of the convenience and i get the same kind of results from both. balance/etc.

    but 70 is great lol. there are bigger guys than me who only do 60, but like i said. if i do dumbells.. im doing it in higher reps lol, and so are they, or else we would do barbell with a lot more on it. how much do you weigh just out of curiosity and your rep count?

    also success@ finding some cheap 2 lb whey for 10 bucks at VS! it's a half ass brand lol, but it has 25g of protein, so meh. itll still get the jerb done

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    Whenever I use dumbbells my range of motion tends to be a lot bigger as well as just...different, which is to be expected since really it IS different using barbell vs dumbbells, unless your motions and balance remain exactly the same. I tend to take advantage of the additional ROM though.

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    Speaking of whey, I can't find a protein shake that I don't find utterly disgusting and vomit inducing. I've gotten some pretty awesome results in the past 2.5 months of working out, to the point where I usually get a compliment or commented on almost daily, but I wonder how much better the results would be if I had been stacking some whey in my lineup. I try to eat protein rich foods anyway, chicken, turkey, tuna, eggs, drink lots of milk, etc. As far as supplements all I have been taking is a Multivitamin, Jack3d Pre-workout (though this month I'm trying NOexplode just to test it out), and USPLabs Powerfull Tablets. I have a huge thing of Cell-Tech hardcore series Whey protein with amino acids, but as stated, its so disgusting I can't get myself to take it. When I started going to the gym I was 151lbs (as of 4/6/10) I'm 6'2'' btw, so I was rail thin. I'm up to about 177-180 now, and shooting for 190 by summers end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoolander View Post
    Whenever I use dumbbells my range of motion tends to be a lot bigger as well as just...different, which is to be expected since really it IS different using barbell vs dumbbells, unless your motions and balance remain exactly the same. I tend to take advantage of the additional ROM though.


    i like wiiiiide dumbell flys. those hurt like a motherfucker on 80 lb dumbells, eeegads! i almost injured myself because i underestimated it lol

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    What Whey have you had? If you just recently started lifting seriously (2-3 months now?) much of it is probably due to newbie gains, which will happen with or without whey supplements. Whey protein powder is just an easy way of getting protein that is absorbed fast. Muscle growth will come about as long as you are tearing your muscles, giving it ample time to repair/rest, and eating enough protein.

    I like trueprotein.com whey because it blends in really well and is delicious. :9

    Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yuFy_qjolU because it keeps getting overlooked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Militant View Post
    Speaking of whey, I can't find a protein shake that I don't find utterly disgusting and vomit inducing. I've gotten some pretty awesome results in the past 2.5 months of working out, to the point where I usually get a compliment or commented on almost daily, but I wonder how much better the results would be if I had been stacking some whey in my lineup. I try to eat protein rich foods anyway, chicken, turkey, tuna, eggs, drink lots of milk, etc. As far as supplements all I have been taking is a Multivitamin, Jack3d Pre-workout (though this month I'm trying NOexplode just to test it out), and USPLabs Powerfull Tablets. I have a huge thing of Cell-Tech hardcore series Whey protein with amino acids, but as stated, its so disgusting I can't get myself to take it.
    just discipline yourself for it lol. its almost impossible to get all the kind of protiens you need every single day in the rate suggested for your amino acids or whatever, so just keep taking the shakes everyday when you wake up/after workout. The No-xplode i had tasted like SHIT when i 1st drank it, ugh. but now, after taking it in giant shots for about 2 weeks, not only did i develop a liking for it, but i just picture myself in overalls with a big afro and a watermelon with a pitchfork right beside me on a farm in the hot sunny FL weather drinking a spicy kool-aid and all is well. it actually tastes good now.

    if you dont want to, than try muscle milk light. that drink is on point as far as taste goes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Militant View Post
    Speaking of whey, I can't find a protein shake that I don't find utterly disgusting and vomit inducing. I've gotten some pretty awesome results in the past 2.5 months of working out, to the point where I usually get a compliment or commented on almost daily, but I wonder how much better the results would be if I had been stacking some whey in my lineup. I try to eat protein rich foods anyway, chicken, turkey, tuna, eggs, drink lots of milk, etc. As far as supplements all I have been taking is a Multivitamin, Jack3d Pre-workout (though this month I'm trying NOexplode just to test it out), and USPLabs Powerfull Tablets. I have a huge thing of Cell-Tech hardcore series Whey protein with amino acids, but as stated, its so disgusting I can't get myself to take it.
    I've yet to find a brand that I truly found disgusting, but Optimum Nutrition stuff is the tastiest I've had so far and others have similar feelings about it. Plus it is a pretty trusted brand as far as making sure no/minimal trace metals and what not are in there. Can get good deals on it too at various websites like bodybuilding.com or something. I like the double chocolate for ON Whey protein, its not super chocolaty really but it tastes pretty good to me and I'm usually not a big chocolate guy.

    Also congrats on the improvements! Those compliments will keep coming, are you at the point yet where you just look for excuses to be in situations with your shirt off? I know I am haha.

    Edit @ rich

    i like wiiiiide dumbell flys. those hurt like a motherfucker on 80 lb dumbells, eeegads! i almost injured myself because i underestimated it lol
    What the fuck, you use two 80 lb dumbbells on flys? What the shit dude, I am doing 25s lol. I go wide as pretty much possible too, it is tough finding that sweet spot on flys, can definitely go "too far" if you aren't careful.

    @ Wei - that video is great lol, one of the better videos of theirs I've watched.

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    I will say I do think I prefer the NOexplode as far as the "boost" it gives me, I have the fruit punch flavor, and the taste, well its tolerable. Jack3d is nice because It's cheaper, and you only need to mix it with a few oz's of water, so you can down it in a few seconds. It usually takes me about 10 minutes or so to finish the 18oz's of noexplode, which is a little annoying, but whatever.

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    yeah man, what zoo said. congrats on your achievement! keep at it man!

    and again@ what zoo said. ON is like the Ferrari of whey imo. You really cant get any better. If you have a fat wallet, than you should get the platinum hydro whey they have. it tastes like unicorn semen. you would think you are drinking a shake from like.. wendy's or something. really awesome stuff, but in most cases.. not really worth it for the price tag. ;x like i said, IF you have a fat wallet lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Militant View Post
    I will say I do think I prefer the NOexplode as far as the "boost" it gives me, I have the fruit punch flavor, and the taste, well its tolerable. Jack3d is nice because It's cheaper, and you only need to mix it with a few oz's of water, so you can down it in a few seconds. It usually takes me about 10 minutes or so to finish the 18oz's of noexplode, which is a little annoying, but whatever.
    takes you that long?! that must suck lol. the only side effect i get is the 30 min after "i have to poop" feeling, but in 10 min, i cant imagine, when you start feeling it. i just drink it as fast as i can after i eat something with carbs in it. that way it can soak in and last longer lol

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    Don't really see the point of so many supplements if you're not a hardcore bodybuilder or something...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoolander View Post
    I've yet to find a brand that I truly found disgusting, but Optimum Nutrition stuff is the tastiest I've had so far and others have similar feelings about it. Plus it is a pretty trusted brand as far as making sure no/minimal trace metals and what not are in there. Can get good deals on it too at various websites like bodybuilding.com or something. I like the double chocolate for ON Whey protein, its not super chocolaty really but it tastes pretty good to me and I'm usually not a big chocolate guy.

    Also congrats on the improvements! Those compliments will keep coming, are you at the point yet where you just look for excuses to be in situations with your shirt off? I know I am haha.

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    What the fuck, you use two 80 lb dumbbells on flys? What the shit dude, I am doing 25s lol. I go wide as pretty much possible too, it is tough finding that sweet spot on flys, can definitely go "too far" if you aren't careful.

    @ Wei - that video is great lol, one of the better videos of theirs I've watched.

    Lol yeah, 80 lb flys? You don't mean a 40 in each hand do you? I've just worked up to 2 sets of 25, and 2 sets of 30. I'm not crazy about my form with the 30's yet, but I know it will get easier with time.

    As far as results, yeah I'm getting to the point now where I'll go somewhere to swim or do something just do have the shirt off lol. It was nice on the 4th of July a good friend of mine had a BBQ/Pool party, and I hadn't seen a few of these people in months, and it was fun catching people staring, and getting told I look pretty solid at least a handful of times. My exgf and I split around the same time I started working out, and didn't see each other for 2.5 months, and it made me feel great to have her gawking at me when we hung out a week or so ago. She kept telling me my arms and chest look so sexy and big, and it just really made me feel like my hard work is paying off. Seeing how much I changed in a few months got her motivated, and she wants to get back into working out again, not that she needs it really but, I won't stop her if she wants to become even sexier.

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    yeah 80 lbs on each hand lol. i do 80 in each for my benching so in my mind "man, this aint shit, i got dis. *lift* lets do thi---- WHOA SHIT"


    needless to say, i almost hurt myself

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    Enjoy the first 3-6 months of lifting.... I wish I was back at that young stage and able to see gains so fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Militant View Post
    Lol yeah, 80 lb flys? You don't mean a 40 in each hand do you? I've just worked up to 2 sets of 25, and 2 sets of 30. I'm not crazy about my form with the 30's yet, but I know it will get easier with time.

    As far as results, yeah I'm getting to the point now where I'll go somewhere to swim or do something just do have the shirt off lol. It was nice on the 4th of July a good friend of mine had a BBQ/Pool party, and I hadn't seen a few of these people in months, and it was fun catching people staring, and getting told I look pretty solid at least a handful of times. My exgf and I split around the same time I started working out, and didn't see each other for 2.5 months, and it made me feel great to have her gawking at me when we hung out a week or so ago. She kept telling me my arms and chest look so sexy and big, and it just really made me feel like my hard work is paying off. Seeing how much I changed in a few months got her motivated, and she wants to get back into working out again, not that she needs it really but, I won't stop her if she wants to become even sexier.
    http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2010/...00-BROFIST.jpg


    @ Wei yea haha, my gains were so ridiculous the first few months, n00b gains are fantastic.

    @ Rich - how the hell are you able to fly the same weights you use to flat press lol, if I tried that as I lower the weight down my arms would just continue to fall until my arms broke off.

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    zoo, we need to show wei how awesome we're getting with our pullups man. she's getting jealous of our bro moments

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    I'll be impressed when you guys can do these things: http://www.calisthenicskingz.net/main.htm

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    Rich, how do I get rid of mah moobs.

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    you dont have no moobs man. you weigh like 130 lbs haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoolander View Post
    @ Rich - how the hell are you able to fly the same weights you use to flat press lol, if I tried that as I lower the weight down my arms would just continue to fall until my arms broke off.
    oh, i cant. i learned that the hard way. lol

    thats why i was joking about it lol. trust me, im no REAL superman. i just play one in the Final Fantasy world

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