EGS HACKED OMGZ HACKERZ

[Kipling]

Probably being whooshed, but isn't that your account anyway? D:

Look at the weapon box...

pixels.. etc etc

[Ohaigaiz]

Probably being whooshed, but isn't that your account anyway? D:

speak gave me the weapon but i said thanks for the account cuz it totally made it

[Unspeakable]

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EGS fucks up and now there trying to pin it on bassline... Warning to anyone who wants to use EGS's retarded MM i wouldn't even bother if your items/accounts/gil gets ganked its not there fault... And they will do nothing to refund you

[pchan]

Can you kids just stop your ad for RMT sites, thanks.

[Lordgenbu]

Can you kids just stop your ad for RMT sites, thanks.

^

Goes around like candy now a days. Lol

[The Blackrose]

What part of RMT is fine in the law of the US do we not understand?
till its taken to court and they rule something nothing can be done about RMT(outside the game)

However SE *rules* the pol server, they cant kill your account(well they can but someday someone will sue for the rights to the account even off the server maybe lol) but they can ban it and say your account is still around you just can not use it on our server.

Just needed to chime in here, but please refer to BlackSnow Interactive vs. Mythic Entertainment/FunCom, which says otherwise.

[KingAFK]

Just stealing the information is a crime, and yes..The law can go after them, however EGS having the credit card information stored and not encrypted is a big issue for EGS as well.

Both sides have many areas that could cause them much trouble and if I had any second questions about being in that database, I would start causing a lot of issues for both sides.

..I do however blame EGS much more for not keeping their stuff a bit more secure, but anyone who knows me knows I have felt that way for a long time.

Nothing like running a small internet business while cutting as many corners as possible..Just waiting to get hacked. lol.

[Rokku]

I don't know what CC info they'd have exactly, EGS does everything through paypal and third party payment management last I checked.

[Mojo]

Update [A few days late]

The issue (which has already been presented in this thread) is that the owner of EGS (Monarch) hasn't paid some of the people who were operating the website. This doesn't come as a surprise to me after having interacted with the upper management a few times. I actually stopped using EGS a few months ago because of how seedy everything was getting.

What's happening now is at least one former EGS Middleman (Bassline) copied the database that EGS was using for record keeping and is now threatening to get every account that was ever sold through EGS banned if Monarch does not comply and pay them. There are probably more people than just Bassline involved, he's just the only person I've spoken with about it. The 'hacking' that occurred is almost certainly related to all of this (i.e. former site operators copied the forum database or something.)

It's disappointing to me either way. Monarch might be human garbage, but getting hundreds of accounts that belong to completely unrelated bystanders banned in an attempt to exact revenge on him is just sad. It's not going to fuck Monarch over as much as it will fuck over all of the people who have nothing to do with this shit.

[Mojo]

Also, just to clarify, I don't think that any of the EGS operators have committed a crime by downloading the database. Monarch never had a business license, he was never operating EGS legitimately (tax evasion and the like.) He GAVE them access to it, and since he never had a legitimate contract with them to begin with, it's not data theft or unauthorized access. Reporting Monarch to the IRS for tax evasion and possible fraud would be the best way bring him to justice, if that's what their goals are.

[Tagus]

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Just look at the bright side, dude! There's thousands of legitimate players that have been playing and working hard at this game for years that this will have no effect on.

[Narse]

I would imagine if SE was gonna go and ban people based off information retrieved from a database that was compromised, they would've done something to the people who were using FFXI-App when Taj hacked that database and posted the list of all the players and servers of people that used it. They didn't.

[Unstable]

I would imagine if SE was gonna go and ban people based off information retrieved from a database that was compromised, they would've done something to the people who were using FFXI-App when Taj hacked that database and posted the list of all the players and servers of people that used it. They didn't.

Taj had names, what he guessed (well not 100% guess as used FFXIAH to help) what servers they where on.

bass has POL Logins and CD keys etc, what you would only give if you where selling an account and knows the servers and toons name on the accounts...

World of difference

also to note egs got hacked again last night for like 40-60mins

o and they unwilling to pay for the 32m and Bell ring that was on a MM account that got banned. Ha that is another $1400 Monarch will not be paying to people he owe.

[KingAFK]

Also, just to clarify, I don't think that any of the EGS operators have committed a crime by downloading the database. Monarch never had a business license, he was never operating EGS legitimately (tax evasion and the like.) He GAVE them access to it, and since he never had a legitimate contract with them to begin with, it's not data theft or unauthorized access. Reporting Monarch to the IRS for tax evasion and possible fraud would be the best way bring him to justice, if that's what their goals are.

If you loan me your credit card to use and I give the number to someone else, that is illegal. There is a USC for it but I don't have time to look it up..

Him making a copy of the databse is illegal.

Also with this "RMT isn't illegal" bit, its not a criminal act, however you can be taken to civil court.

[Corrderio]

If you loan me your credit card to use and I give the number to someone else, that is illegal. There is a USC for it but I don't have time to look it up..

Him making a copy of the databse is illegal.

Also with this "RMT isn't illegal" bit, its not a criminal act, however you can be taken to civil court.

Can you go into details about this civil court thing? Only time I've heard about RMT going to trial is when MMO companies tried to sue IGE or some other company.

[Tagus]

I wonder how many people keep checking this thread to see if those logins have been publicly released yet, so they can try to jump on a random EGS account and trade all the shit possible to themselves before time runs out...

It's gonna be like the RMT version of black friday shopping up in this piece! Niggas get your shopping carts ready and don't get your ass trampled!

[The_OG_Nelta]

I wonder how many people keep checking this thread to see if those logins have been publicly released yet, so they can try to jump on a random EGS account and trade all the shit possible to themselves before time runs out...

It's gonna be like the RMT version of black friday shopping up in this piece! Niggas get your shopping carts ready and don't get your ass trampled!

Will never happen

[Narse]

Taj had names, what he guessed (well not 100% guess as used FFXIAH to help) what servers they where on.

bass has POL Logins and CD keys etc, what you would only give if you where selling an account and knows the servers and toons name on the accounts...

World of difference

also to note egs got hacked again last night for like 40-60mins

o and they unwilling to pay for the 32m and Bell ring that was on a MM account that got banned. Ha that is another $1400 Monarch will not be paying to people he owe.

My girlfriend has info on people's accounts, including CD keys, two different people, who still have their accounts. She didn't buy them, but one person's account was compromised, and he didn't wanna deal with getting it back, and she volunteered to handle it for one person. That person gave her all the info on account, including CD keys. Another person needed a PW reset but the account region was NA and the person was out of the US because of military duties and she has his information as well, including CD keys.

In the end, it is hear-say in both situations.

[Aragon of Odin]

Taj had names, what he guessed (well not 100% guess as used FFXIAH to help) what servers they where on.

bass has POL Logins and CD keys etc, what you would only give if you where selling an account and knows the servers and toons name on the accounts...

World of difference

also to note egs got hacked again last night for like 40-60mins

o and they unwilling to pay for the 32m and Bell ring that was on a MM account that got banned. Ha that is another $1400 Monarch will not be paying to people he owe.

Never really read this thread, so don't know if it's been pointed out, but why do you refer to yourself in first person to try and hide who you are? Because when you were in our LS you claimed to be Bass. My appologies in advance if it's already been mentioned.

[Mojo]

My girlfriend has info on people's accounts, including CD keys, two different people, who still have their accounts. She didn't buy them, but one person's account was compromised, and he didn't wanna deal with getting it back, and she volunteered to handle it for one person. That person gave her all the info on account, including CD keys. Another person needed a PW reset but the account region was NA and the person was out of the US because of military duties and she has his information as well, including CD keys.

In the end, it is hear-say in both situations.

This is what I believed, although I'm not so sure based on the testimonies of others. Some have claimed that if you call SE with all of the account information that cannot be changed (name, date of birth, PoL ID) that you can get the account banned by saying that you sold it to someone else and that you want it back. I've never done this myself, that's just what I hear people say. I am highly skeptical though.