Version Update (11/9/09)

[Arcanesoul]

You can't logically think they intended MV to be stacked in the way it was, right? It takes timing that most humans won't be able to do because not everyone has the reaction time someone else does. They intended for it to be used if you wanted to bump the damage up but while cutting down it's duration.

Obviously those that played SCH knew it could be stacked, but it wasn't really used till word got out and people started mass meriting MV and trying to oneshot everything lol.

I do believe they intended it to be stacked in the way it was. I don't believe they anticipated the use of that many sch's though, for the reason you stated. I would perhaps imagine at most a party of 6 sch's thinking to use it in the way suggested to kill AV on some other mobs. ~10k instant dmg isn't bad in my eyes, but nothing the player base will make use of that I can think of. Groups, especially here, are looking for the most efficient way to kill things to get everyone their gear or make tons of gil. They'll make up that 10k damage using other jobs, and then keep going because that 10k dmg isn't limited by the MV timer.

Beyond stacking MV in the way suggested for AV, what use do you see it having? Unmerited, you could lose dmg. It doesn't provide any great benefit when merited for solo play either. I also don't see any middle ground, that groups might opt to use it in. What is there for it?

[Seyrr]

Do other language clients not get the place in queue before or what did the english speaking player-base do that it warranted the removal of it..?

Friend of mine just explained this to me. Apparently there are laws on the books in some states where if you tell people their place in line, you have to provide service in a "timely manner" (which is defined in the law.) If you don't, presumably bad legal things can happen to you (maybe you can get sued?) So it's safer for them legally to just not say.

[Kaslo]

When coming from a pet, everything resists Baleful Gaze.

Sometimes I wish posts here had a "Like" button like on facebook

[dejet]

Sometimes I wish posts here had a "Like" button like on facebook

Alla has that...

[Spider-Dan]

Well the shorter time is appreciated, but now it means no chance for a random TP move at all, since there will always be 1 charge ready before the next sic timer.

Ready (Sic doesn't exist for jug pets) has no recast, so I don't see your point. I don't even understand what you're talking about with the random TP move thing.

Also makes it a pain if you want to try and start off with one of the other lesser charge moves say like filamented hold (assuming this isn't the 3 charge move).

Please explain how being forced to use only 1 of your 3 accumulated charges is "a pain."

Also not good if the 3 charge move is aoe in a crowd controlled environment - means you need to wait anyway....

So instead of random chance of AoE move, now you can choose not to use said move. This is somehow bad.

Give me a break.

Eh, all I can say is I'm good at seeing the negative side...

I wouldn't say you're good at it.

And on that note... I don't see why they needed to change the name.

Because it's a completely different command that works nothing like the still-existing Sic command for charmed pets?

[Biiru]

I've personally never really played around with lizard jugs pets so I've never seen Baleful Gaze go off before, maybe I'll do some testing with them to see what it can stick to and if it's even worth a shit at all on anything. I know from having the effect on me that it's not very strong, compared to say from a Cockatrice.

lol, I said cock.

[Kaslo]

Alla has that...

lol I was just kidding, I just had realized how used to the "Like" button on facebook I had become...

[Sho]

>.>

[Gunitsoldier]

I've personally never really played around with lizard jugs pets so I've never seen Baleful Gaze go off before, maybe I'll do some testing with them to see what it can stick to and if it's even worth a shit at all on anything. I know from having the effect on me that it's not very strong, compared to say from a Cockatrice.

lol, I said cock.

What are you, 8 ?

Also, I will save you the testing and just go ahead and tell you don't count on it working on NMs.

[Calintzpso]

Incoming nerf. AV will 100% with 1 tick unclaimed.

In Aion, especially during raids on fortresses, we call that a Reset. Watched a Guardian go from 5% to 100% in an instant

Its biggest fastest kick in the balls ever in the game, it even ignores DoTs. If SE ever does something like that to all mobs, the game will be dead. Blms won't even be able to solo Drg Aern or other zone dot NMs.

[dejet]

lol I was just kidding, I just had realized how used to the "Like" button on facebook I had become...

haha I know, just you sorta set me up for that one.

[Sho]

I've personally never really played around with lizard jugs pets so I've never seen Baleful Gaze go off before, maybe I'll do some testing with them to see what it can stick to and if it's even worth a shit at all on anything. I know from having the effect on me that it's not very strong, compared to say from a Cockatrice.

lol, I said cock.

Lol, even if AV didn't resist Baleful Gaze, he'd 1-2 shot a lizard pet with AoE anyways.

[dejet]

In Aion, especially during raids on fortresses, we call that a Reset. Watched a Guardian go from 5% to 100% in an instant

Its biggest fastest kick in the balls ever in the game, it even ignores DoTs. If SE ever does something like that to all mobs, the game will be dead. Blms won't even be able to solo Drg Aern or other zone dot NMs.

This is one of the things I hate, when kiting a mob in aion(on my sorc) I can lose it and it regains HP so fast. Do not even get me started how mobs regen HP when I fly, just because. That in itself I at first saw as a glich..

[TheMysteriousX]

The update files are now live.

2114 updated files.

[JigglyJam]

I'm sure I got a petro-eyes on one of the swift belt NMs at least once.
Hex-eye right before a chainspell is hilarious.

[Gunitsoldier]

I'm sure I got a petro-eyes on one of the swift belt NMs at least once.
Hex-eye right before a chainspell is hilarious.

He's talking bout AV, not a lame swift belt NM(no offense)

[Shassira]

Ah right I forgot that BSTs don't solo.

Because BSTs use tons of jug pets to solo. Forgot that part, sorry.

[Spira]

The update files are now live.

2114 updated files.

by force updating or do u mean thru POL splashpage?

[Spider-Dan]

It's not really a nerf if we never got it. Do you bitch at Publisher's Clearinghouse when you get the letter saying, "You may already be a winner!"?

That's probably why I said the first job to get an Update Notes nerf. Because plenty of jobs have gotten just a nerf.

The point is that if they were not going to give RNG the distance-based enmity reduction, why the hell are they saying otherwise three weeks before this patch goes live? Why dangle a picture of a carrot (not an actual carrot, just a picture) in front of the players just to snatch it away? It's like they're trying to piss off the players.

The better solution is what they did with BST, where they throw out some pathetic, underpowered adjustment in the preview notes, observe all the bitching, then kick it up two notches for the actual update. Ready is far superior today to what it was announced as two weeks ago.

I guess the moral of the story is: bitch incessantly after any update preview. Apparently the turnaround from bitching to patching is now less than the time to implement a version update.

Really, im sure the Ranged Emity thing was removed because... No other DD gets that?

Maybe because no other DD uses ranged attacks? Please go back to your Mensa meeting.

[Gunitsoldier]

Because BSTs use tons of jug pets to solo. Forgot that part, sorry.

Yes I obviously said BSTs use tons of jug pets solo (note: sarcasm incase you're dumb).

Ranting here about how this update to BST is "COMPLETELY USELESS WEH WAH WEH" is beyond retarded. As little as it may be it DOES help in certain situations, I just found your wall-o-text rant bout this update being the shittiest thing to ever hit BST pathetic. Certainly coming from a fellow BST.