Version Update (11/9/09)

[JigglyJam]

He's talking bout AV, not a lame swift belt NM(no offense)

I know baleful gaze won't work on AV. And if by some miracle it did, SE would do an emergency update.

As for the update, I feel very underwhelmed. I think I'll try out chocobo raising and MMM to see what I'm missing. I also want one of those sexy racing bodies.

[TheMysteriousX]

by force updating or do u mean thru POL splashpage?

Force.

[arus2001]

One could argue a BST doesn't need a BRD army and other appropriate support just to dump their damage. The styles have pros and cons, sure, but claiming it useless because there are other things that are better is what damned a lot of other job aspects in this game. I don't think some pet classes will be happy until playing them is like dual-boxing multiple characters with equal effectiveness.

[Biiru]

He's talking bout AV, not a lame swift belt NM(no offense)

Actually I really do mean any mob in the game. Be it NM or not. No other job can petrify. But I realize that it will more than likely just be a lame ass stun like Feral Howl, which all that really does is delay the inevitable anyway.

[Gunitsoldier]

I know baleful gaze won't work on AV. And if by some miracle it did, SE would do an emergency update.

As for the update, I feel very underwhelmed. I think I'll try out chocobo raising and MMM to see what I'm missing. I also want one of those sexy racing bodies.

I know you do, he clearly doesn't.

[seiji]

Yes I obviously said BSTs use tons of jug pets solo (note: sarcasm incase you're dumb).

Ranting here about how this update to BST is "COMPLETELY USELESS WEH WAH WEH" is beyond retarded. As little as it may be it DOES help in certain situations, I just found your wall-o-text rant bout this update being the shittiest thing to ever hit BST pathetic. Certainly coming from a fellow BST.

ready work only for jug pets............

[Gunitsoldier]

Actually I really do mean any mob in the game. Be it NM or not. No other job can petrify. But I realize that it will more than likely just be a lame ass stun like Feral Howl, which all that really does is delay the inevitable anyway.

Trust me dude, I gave up on hoping stuff like that lands on mobs a long time ago. Feral Howl fully meritted does land on NMs but you can't bet your life on it.

[Gunitsoldier]

ready work only for jug pets............

Thank you captain obvious. Where in my post did I say it works for charmed mobs again?

[Sho]

Yes I obviously said BSTs use tons of jug pets solo (note: sarcasm incase you're dumb).

Ranting here about how this update to BST is "COMPLETELY USELESS WEH WAH WEH" is beyond retarded. As little as it may be it DOES help in certain situations, I just found your wall-o-text rant bout this update being the shittiest thing to ever hit BST pathetic. Certainly coming from a fellow BST.

I must agree with all of this. Indeed, a fellow BST that no longer plays. But hey, in every update good or bad someone that doesn't play anymore must bitch or it's not an update.

[Spira]

in SE's defense isnt there like some disclaimer about how teaser notes are not finalized and there may be changes between those and the actual updates?

[BahamutRicker]

I am wondering if Ready will have a cooldown timer, when they say it will replace Sic I thought that meant it would share the recast time also, would be interesting if Ready had a short recast time and you could use it everytime your pet had TP.

[Onorgul]

That's probably why I said the first job to get an Update Notes nerf. Because plenty of jobs have gotten just a nerf.

The point is that if they were not going to give RNG the distance-based enmity reduction, why the hell are they saying otherwise three weeks before this patch goes live? Why dangle a picture of a carrot (not an actual carrot, just a picture) in front of the players just to snatch it away? It's like they're trying to piss off the players.

The better solution is what they did with BST, where they throw out some pathetic, underpowered adjustment in the preview notes, observe all the bitching, then kick it up two notches for the actual update. Ready is far superior today to what it was announced as two weeks ago.

I guess the moral of the story is: bitch incessantly after any update preview. Apparently the turnaround from bitching to patching is now less than the time to implement a version update.

Trust me, I wanted to see this change. As it stands, it would be the thing that would actually provide a niche for bow use because, otherwise, Othinus' and Darksteel is widely and accurately accepted as being the better choice unless you absolutely have to stand outside of 10 yalms. I'm just saying that it's not a nerf, it's just a failure to deliver; a tease. Nerfing is when you break someone's ankles, not when you get them hot and bothered just before walking out the door forever. Frustrating, sure, but not the same thing.

[Corrderio]

6 pages and not an update dice joke about the SCH nerf? I'm disappointed D:

[Xoraken]

Regardless it allows you to use a TP move almost immediately after calling a jug pet.

and ?

SAM cant do that with Meditate ? Meditate is a 3min recast , no ? so why the pet cant get it too ?

[Jeryhn]

6 pages and not an update dice joke about the SCH nerf? I'm disappointed D:

Inferior settings.

[dejet]

and ?

SAM cant do that with Meditate ? Meditate is a 3min recast , no ? so why the pet cant get it too ?

Because pets are not sam's?

[Shassira]

Yes I obviously said BSTs use tons of jug pets solo (note: sarcasm incase you're dumb).

Ranting here about how this update to BST is "COMPLETELY USELESS WEH WAH WEH" is beyond retarded. As little as it may be it DOES help in certain situations, I just found your wall-o-text rant bout this update being the shittiest thing to ever hit BST pathetic. Certainly coming from a fellow BST.

Wait, you called my little paragraph a wall of text? And aparently you think it was typed in caps? Ok, let me explain this to you, because aparently you have a hard time understanding:

1- I complain about the uselessness of the update to fix or redefine the job. Because it is, just think about it for more than "OMG I CAN USE 1000 NEEDLES!11".

2- You point to a BST's solo ability in a sarcastic tone.

3- I point back that Jugs are mostly useless for solo in the same tone.

4- You point out I might be dumb for understanding in your quote that BSTs use jugs to solo.

So based on point 4, what you are saying is that you just wanted to point out that BSTs can solo, unrelated to if they use jugs or not. Which means your comment was completely unrelated to my complains about "Ready" which is, by description, a Jug only ability. Not sure if you follow, but clearly i'm not the dumb one here...

To put this "Ready" thing into perspective, it's less relevant than the "Snarl" update. Snarl was a great addition that lacks tools to make it more effective. This update does something good, but not even close to enough. It's useless unless BST pets are actualy fixed fromt he base.

The only thing that could make this change good is the addition of items that affect jug pet stats (which could be found in the DATs, hopefuly). Else it's just a "wait for next patch and see".

I would recomend you try something more than a silly ground NM with BST to see how short handed it is when using jugs.

[Sho]

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/9/.../Alexander.jpg

Fixed it for you. You was gonna post it soon anyways.

[Midnightjade]

The point is that if they were not going to give RNG the distance-based enmity reduction, why the hell are they saying otherwise three weeks before this patch goes live? Why dangle a picture of a carrot (not an actual carrot, just a picture) in front of the players just to snatch it away? It's like they're trying to piss off the players.

To extend the carrot metaphor, it seems in this case they've dangled it in front of RNGs then bent them over and stuck it up their bottom.

Not nice to do that. I'm not surprised folks are kind of annoyed.

[Jeryhn]

and ?

SAM cant do that with Meditate ? Meditate is a 3min recast , no ? so why the pet cant get it too ?

Let us know when BST jug pets get Overwhelm.

Or Sekkanokki.

lol