Shantotto Ascension

[FTAJuicymama]

Just the fact that it *does* take 15 mins to run around and collect them would be a turn-off for some people (I argue most, but we'll see when others start catching up).

For example...

...If someone wants help on ACP or Moogle, it's as simple as "get the crap you need, send me a tell when rdy, I'll meet you there whenever."

Now its "I really don't feel like running around all over again looking for that crap, find someone else who needs it - should have done it with us bro."

I mean...its all hypothetical...I don't think it's going to happen *now* or the following week or so. But eventually the Hype is going to wear off and no one is going to want to re-do all this again. It would have been nice if helpers didn't have to re-do it *every* time.

I mean...I'm always seeing people complaining about finding people to do the other two. This is going to be worse later on.

Maybe you are right but what I see more disturbing is the fact that the tablet won't be the solid case of this, it's the final BC itself. The final BC requires 2 good whm who knows what they are doing, if you lack those, you won't win.
I would be glad to redo ACP fight which I won over 30 times for the rings but I won't want to redo this BC because it's much tougher and 1 mistake is game over, not to mention, the 75 key you get from it is garbage so far.

[Corrderio]

Maybe you are right but what I see more disturbing is the fact that the tablet won't be the solid case of this, it's the final BC itself. The final BC requires 2 good whm who knows what they are doing, if you lack those, you won't win.
I would be glad to redo ACP fight which I won over 30 times for the rings but I won't want to redo this BC because it's much tougher and 1 mistake is game over, not to mention, the 75 key you get from it is garbage so far.

This can be said about any of the final fights IMO. Though I hope you're wrong about this 2 WHM thing ><

[Asmoranomar]

...the 75 key you get from it is garbage so far.

If you only had to do it (ASA) for the optional reward, sure I could see that. I had honestly forgotten about the additional keys. Sucks that the rewards sound crappy, it would have been the one redeeming thing about it I failed to consider.

[Acorn]

I would say 2 whm may be required... there is just no way a single whm can keep up with all that damage. I had A LOT of trouble and I like to think I am pretty good at whm

[FTAJuicymama]

I would say 2 whm may be required... there is just no way a single whm can keep up with all that damage. I had A LOT of trouble and I like to think I am pretty good at whm

1 Whm will not be enough.

I know a jp pt won before me uses a rdm and a whm but it was that jp group that hinted me for my victory. He clearly mentioned bring 2 whm and just spam curaga iV after 50% no matter what the current hp is, just spam it.

I did pull hate at 1% but the whole point is to survive until the 1st one died.

Also, job I recommend bringing is SAM, SAM, and more SAM, they are so nice after 25%.

P.S> i will be lurking this post today, if anyone has any concerns about the final BC i will be here to answer.

[crux]

There's a pretty good chance I'll be a WHM for the final battle, so any tips outside of the usual? Misery and Cura a good idea early on, or just stay back with Solace and prepare to Curaga bomb?

Battaru Royal was silly easy with all 8 sap crystals. We had SMN, SMN, BLM, NIN, WAR, and WHM. BLM ES+Sleepga II's the group and we quickly take out two. They wake, can't resleep, we wipe. One SMN exits prematurely. so we move on with five. We raise, ES+Sleepga II again, take out another two and let three of them chase the BLM while we fought the fifth and proceeded to pick off the remaining three, while the BLM slept them when he could. Shellra V plus the sap crystals made the Astral Flow damage trivial. Curaga II was enough to keep everyone at full for the entire fight.

[FTAJuicymama]

There's a pretty good chance I'll be a WHM for the final battle, so any tips outside of the usual? Misery and Cura a good idea early on, or just stay back with Solace and prepare to Curaga bomb?

Battaru Royal was silly easy with all 8 sap crystals. We had SMN, SMN, BLM, NIN, WAR, and WHM. BLM ES+Sleepga II's the group and we quickly take out two. They wake, can't resleep, we wipe. One SMN exits prematurely. so we move on with five. We raise, ES+Sleepga II again, take out another two and let three of them chase the BLM while we fought the fifth and proceeded to pick off the remaining three, while the BLM slept them when he could. Shellra V plus the sap crystals made the Astral Flow damage trivial. Curaga II was enough to keep everyone at full for the entire fight.

You have to keep in mind after 50% every 10 secs she does aoe 500~1k dmg so cura wont work, only curaga 4 will help keep people alive.

Also everyone starts with 3x more HP in the fight

[Toth]

Quick question:

Do the pics of the mobs for SSG have to be from SSG or can we get pictures of the same mob elsewhere (i.e. Robber Crabs)?

[Aihree]

Pankration pictures seem to have an idea of the level of the mob that was pictured, and mobs in SSG don't have the same level as other areas, so... who knows?

In any case, the robber crabs are right there behind the gold door. Just go to them and take pictures and be assurred of victory without wasting time in other zones.

[Corrderio]

Also as a hint for others.... Remedies are VERY helpful for this fight to remove paralyze/silence/etc. from their signature attacks.

[Lone]

For those that completed the thingy and saw the augment list,

Was the "Conserve TP" augment a typo?

[Pergo]

yeah i was kinda thinking when they did divine malison that we may need more than 1 whm.

for anyone who's won this... if they're separated far enough or kited far enough (even though hate gets reset at certain intervals), is there a way to prevent them from doing the move? or do we have to deal with it?

ps: corr, check your pms lol

[FTAJuicymama]

For those that completed the thingy and saw the augment list,

Was the "Conserve TP" augment a typo?

my sam friend picked this, when it procs your ws wont drain all your tp, liek u might have 30 tp left after ws, but not more than that

[Toth]

Thanks for the info. One more quick thing:

For the Gustav battle, can you kill them using windower, then log off, and switch to the official to trigger the CS or will you be forced to do the battle again?

[FTAJuicymama]

yeah i was kinda thinking when they did divine malison that we may need more than 1 whm.

for anyone who's won this... if they're separated far enough or kited far enough (even though hate gets reset at certain intervals), is there a way to prevent them from doing the move? or do we have to deal with it?

ps: corr, check your pms lol

They will group back together at 75, 50 and 25% no matter what you do.

Also i dont want to make multi post, how do i multi quote people so that I can answer all the questions at once?

EDIT: Found the button

[FTAJuicymama]

Thanks for the info. One more quick thing:

For the Gustav battle, can you kill them using windower, then log off, and switch to the official to trigger the CS or will you be forced to do the battle again?

The cs is right after the battle you cannot avoid, but what u can do is force dc after u black screen and log back into real ff and watch the cs.

1 more thing i forgot to mention, last 2 SC after final BC won't black screen, so go ahead and use windower for last bc.

[nyglypz]

for anyone who's won this... if they're separated far enough or kited far enough (even though hate gets reset at certain intervals), is there a way to prevent them from doing the move? or do we have to deal with it?

It has been suggested to me that the WHM (assuming two are with you) rotate Elemental Seal + Bind on Shantotto once you hit 60% in prevention of what seems to be a 50%/25% trigger for their skillchains. Reason being is that D. Shantotto resists because she is dark side elemental and Shantotto won't. Just what a JP told me that was in our group.

Still waiting for attempt #2... This is rediculous, I was ready the first day.

[FTAJuicymama]

It has been suggested to me that the WHM (assuming two are with you) rotate Elemental Seal + Bind on Shantotto once you hit 60% in prevention of what seems to be a 50%/25% trigger for their skillchains. Reason being is that D. Shantotto resists because she is dark side elemental and Shantotto won't. Just what a JP told me that was in our group.

Still waiting for attempt #2... This is rediculous, I was ready the first day.

If you have 2 whm this isnt a problem at all, no one was near death with the 2 whm spams curaga 4 back to back to back to back to back

Just straight eat the 2 hr, that's what your 4k HP boost is for!

[Reiokyu]

Hrm, seems to be somewhat dismaying that samurai is king of the hill yet again in pretty much everything.

On a more serious note however, this fight, at least from reading, seems to be interesting and challenging.

So white mage is about the only curing mage that can keep up...shutting out red mage and scholar? Just trying to clarify some things for personal use, apologies if this message is somewhat odd.

[FTAJuicymama]

Hrm, seems to be somewhat dismaying that samurai is king of the hill yet again in pretty much everything.

On a more serious note however, this fight, at least from reading, seems to be interesting and challenging.

So white mage is about the only curing mage that can keep up...shutting out red mage and scholar? Just trying to clarify some things for personal use, apologies if this message is somewhat odd.

Correct, rdm cannot curaga 4 800 hp every 10 sec, and shanttoto do "AOE" 700 dmg every 5 seconds

the second last attempt i did was rdm whm actually, and it didnt work until i change to whm and have 2 whm and everything goes smoooooth after