Credit goes to everyone in the fishing thread/community. This needs to be its own thread so Dejet and Cdgreg don't have to keep reposting it for people
Fishing discussion goes here: http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/49347-fishing.html
Ebisu Bitching goes here: http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/79718...-bitching.html
Mods, please help this thread stay clear of either of these two topics. Replies to this thread should be detailed information, updates or suggestions on better ways to get your fishing skill to 100.
Also:First off, let me give credit where credit is due:
After asking him some follow up questions about bait, zones, etc, here is what I view as the fastest and most profitable fishing to at least 90+, I know there's a lot more to be researched on 90-100, but I'll have plenty of time for that while I fish. First, I'm not sure what level you can begin fishing Istiridye's, they are the Eastern equivilant of Shall Shells and were not only quite easy to reel in at 28, but I also used to fish Shall Shells with 20ish skills in Bub Pen. Secondly, I will assume Lu Shangs fishing rod but you can also use Halcyon, atleast upto 53. Honestly, by 53, you'll probably have made enough to pay for at least half, if not more of a Lu's just NPCing everything. All of this can be done in the Nashmau area, however, if there is a close zone alternative I will include that option.
Stage 0.5: Nebimonite
Fishing Levels: 0-27
Area: Ship between Mhaura/Selbina or Sea Serpent Grotto
Bait: Halcyon Rod (or Lu of course) & Crayfish Paste
Notes: Skip moats and hit these up for 27 levels. They sell incredibly fast on the AH for about 9k per stack. To save more gil, buy the crayfish paste at the fisherman's guild for dirt cheap. I'm sure they were exaggerating, but people said they made almost enough to buy a Lu from AHing these from 0-27 instead of spending time on Moats and random other fish. I imagine if you would like you can start Istiridye earlier than 27 assuming you have a Lu, a friend began them at level 7 with a Lu.
***ADDITIONAL NOTE: I've heard Nebs dont bite very well until around 15, so it may be best to just do moats from 0-11.
Stage 1: Istiridye
Fishing Levels: 0-53
Bait: Robber Rig
Notes: These are incredibly easy to reel in and stack. If you are a bit patient they will sell on the AH for 7k a stack, or find a high level bonecrafter who synths them into black pearls and sell to them directly for a negotiable price. They also NPC for 300ish gil. I made 70k my first day just NPCing these while racking in a couple fishing skill levels from 30-33ish. I currently dbox them to a high level bone friend for 5k a stack.
Stage 2: Mercanbaligi & Ahtapot
Fishing Levels: 53-90
Bait: Shrimp Lure
Additional Location: Talacca Cove, W exit of Nashmau through Caederva Mire near Einherjar entrance.
Notes: A friend prefers Talacca Cove, the difference is in Talacca you will also fish up Dil's which you will not in Nashmau. NPC rates seem to vary on these from about 600g on Mercs to 700gish on Ahtapots. Mercs are the Eastern equivalent of Bastore Breams and Ahtapots are the Eastern equivalents of Grimmonites. Dil's npc for almost 800g each and are the eastern version of black sole which cap at 96.
[i]This is where a few options seem to open:
Stage 3 Option A: Pterygotus
Fishing Levels 90-99
Notes: Biterate is acceptable, and these will not break a Lu.
Stage 3 Option B: Dil
Area: Talacca Cave
Fishing Levels: 90-96
Bait: Shrimp Lure
Notes: You will also hit Mercs (single !) which are already capped, and also Ahtapots (!!!) which cap at 90 but the bite rate of hooking dils is similar to Pter's and you will make nice gil off the other 2 fish in the meantime.
Stage 3: Option C: Cave Cherax
Area: Quicksand Caves
Fishing Levels: 86+ or more likely 99-100
Bait: A MEATABALLS
Notes: These will snap a Lu Shangs and/or your line. If you go this route and do not have WW high enough to repair consider buying multiple Lu's.
Stage 4: Option D: Armored Pisces
Area: Oldton Movalpolos
Fishing Levels: 86+ or more likely 99-100
Bait: Sinking Minnow
Notes: These *will not* snap a line or rod if the fish is completely depleted. Bite rate seems to be equal or possibly better than Cave Cherax.
Stage 5: Option D: Lik/Gugs
Area: Lufaise Meadows, Open Sea Route Mhaura/Al Zahbi
Bait: Minnow, Meatballs
Notes: If you are lucky enough to have an Ebisu by the time you cap Ahtapot 90 in Talacca Cove skilling off these is a profitable option. I personally skilled 90-100 off Liks and made quite a fortune bazaaring some for 15k and unloading others to lsmates for 10k each and helping them obtain an ebisu. This really wouldn't be a great idea if you had a Lu, but if you were lucky enough to have an Ebisu at this point, the skill ups were quite decent.
TLDR Fishing for Dummies Version:
All done in Nashmau:
0-53 Robber Rig, Istiridye (If no Lu, Halcyon to 27 on Nebs)
53-86 Shrimp Lure, Mercanbaligi & Ahtapot
86-99 Lugworm or Sinking Minnow, Pterygotus
99-100 QSC, Meatballs/Cave Cherax OR Oldton Movalpolos, Sinking Minnow/Armored Pisces, OR Lik/Gugs Minnow/Meatballs
Repost of what I guess was lost in the fishing thread, some of it might be useful. Stuff from basic to advanced with links:
Since I was bored and the idea was brought up earlier, I went ahead and skimmed the thread to pick up some important points, if anyone's interested. Some are responses to FAQs and some are posts picked out from the thread concerning other discussions.
-You can repair a Lu Shang's Fishing Rod without WW skill in Rabao
-The three fishing rings:
Pelican Ring: Increases skill up rate (Two chances at skillup per reel, yes you can double skillup). Requires placement in the top 20 of the Fish Ranking Contest.
Albatross Ring: Increases reeling time. Obtained as a 100% reward for the Pirate's Chart Quest.
Penguin Ring: Decreases fish's stamina more effectively while reeling. Obtained as a possible 3rd 4th or 5th chest reward in the Brigand's Chart Quest.
The ring effects disppear if you zone.
-Moglification: Fishing obtained by having Fisherman's Signboard (Required) 200,000 Guild points and Veteran fishing rank) and one or both of the following:
-The Big One (crafted)
-Fishing Hole Map (requires 150,000 GP and Veteran status)
-The Ebisu Fishing Rod Quest requires the key item Serpent Rumors (95,000 GP, Adept rank required) to complete. Opal Slilk and Saber Shoot, the two items required to complete it, can be obtained without the quest flagged.
-Fishing Fatigue caps at 200 fish give or take per earth day, resets at JP midnight tally. Approaching the cap has a noticeable effect on the wait period between casts. Characters under level 20 are limited to 10 fish per day.
-Phanauet Newts suck
Fishing Category on FFXI wikia
FFXIAH Guild Pattern (updates daily)
Completed Relic/Ebisu Rod List - Also, Indomitable Spirit quest bitching
Kida's FFXI Fishing Database for fishers in Final Fantasy XI - comprehensive DB of fishing caps, locations, bait, rods
cdgreg's Fishing for Dummies (Reposted below):
Urat's Moghancement Theory (1,2) (Rebuttal)
Observations on July ebisu update (1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
An opinion on mooching
Lik/Gugru Lu Shang's bite rate info
Differentiating between Ahtapots and monsters
Discussion on Pirate's/Brigand's Chart event odds