Arrested for harassment?

[archibaldcrane]

Continually attempting to contact someone who is ignoring you is stalking.

No it's not. She talked to him on the phone 2 weeks ago - only 2 weeks! And not only talked to him, badmouthed her current boyfriend to him.

[Talus]

There's a difference between stalking and harassment. I think the two are getting muddled here. The timeline also seems muddled from OP.

This is what I understand:
- You broke up in May. (It's mid-November now, btw, how long did you go out? You're 20, can't be that long.)
- You talked last month, even as recently as two weeks ago.
- You have been texting her every 1-3 days at the ungodly hours (to most people) of 3-5 a.m. Does she work? Does she go to school?

Stop being so fucking emo. You were harassing her with the texts every 1-3 days at those hours. Someone doesn't have to say, "hey, you're harassing me" for it to be harassment. It doesn't have to be acknowledged by the harassed party for it to occur.

I think you need perspective. When you break up with a girl in the future, for fuck's sake delete her from your contacts, block her on Facebook, etc. Men & women who have dated in the past aren't meant to be friends, let alone best friends, no matter how much you think that will work out, it won't.

[archibaldcrane]

Sounds to me that he's being charged with harassing the mom, and that the mom is a huge fucking bitch, throwing away his stuff that he lent to her, and then running to the police on some bullshit.

[Pringles]

Thanks. Also, I was texting her mom because she has texted me a few times in the past and we have a history of bickering at one another. The last time I talked to her was trying to ask for my nintendo back I let her younger son borrow with about 50 NES games. She told me she threw it away. In response I told her jesus was dead and she needed to move on.

She threw away a fucking nintendo, 50 games, 2controllers and the duckhunt gun. I think the jesus statement was relevant.

Send her a bill for the NES and the games and accessories.

[Tyche]

There's harassment and there's stalking. He wasn't charged for stalking, to bring it up is absolutely irrelevant.

[archibaldcrane]

Men & women who have dated in the past aren't meant to be friends, let alone best friends, no matter how much you think that will work out, it won't.

This is horseshit btw, I'm friends with plenty of women I used to bang.

Just in case you were wondering if you're wrong - yeah you are.

[FNH]

Sending a few non-threatening texts isn't fucking stalking.

You guys are watering down actual stalkers. He wasn't following her, he wasn't showing up at her work or home, etc. etc.

He (supposedly) wasn't even told to cut off all contact until her mom got involved, and it seems to me like he did after that.

ITT: People who don't actually know what stalking is.

Big thing about stalking is not the method,as some states might include phone calls and internet stuff, is fear of physical harm.

[altwight]

He wasn't charged for stalking, he was charged for harassment, which, unless he's leaving out some critical details, is a fucking petty misdemeanor. The equivalent of getting busted by a traffic camera in some states. Plea out and get the fuck over the crazy bitch and her mom.

Right, the cop informed me it was only a misdemeanor and that any further contact would increase the charge to stalking aka a felony. I'm not tard enough to send her a text message even saying 'hay thanks for the jail time I'll never talk to you again'

A felony is a felony and there's no way I'm gitting that shit on my record as for the whole stalking argument:

Stalking
Definition

Stalking can be defined as a pattern of repeated and unwanted attention, harassment, contact, or any other course of conduct directed at a specific person that would cause a reasonable person to feel fear. Stalking is against the law in every state. Stalking across state lines or in federal territories is illegal under federal law.

Stalking is a course of conduct that can include:

* Repeated, unwanted, intrusive, and frightening communications from the perpetrator by phone, mail, and/or email.
* Repeatedly leaving or sending the victim unwanted items or presents.
* Following or laying in wait for the victim at places such as home, school, work, or recreation place.
* Making direct or indirect threats to harm the victim, the victim's children, relatives, friends, or pets.
* Damaging or threatening to damage the victim's property.
* Harassing victim through the internet.
* Posting information or spreading rumors about the victim on the internet, in a public place, or by word of mouth.
* Obtaining personal information about the victim by accessing public records, using internet search services, hiring private investigators, going through the victim's garbage, following the victim, contacting victim's friends, family work, or neighbors, etc.
* Technology can be used to stalk. Although newly-developed technology enhances our lives, it can also empower criminals. Cell phones, computers, networking sites like Myspace and Facebook, and surveillance equipment are just some of the technologies stalkers now use.
* To an outsider, stalking behavior can appear friendly and unthreatening, such as showering the victim with gifts or flattering messages. These acts, however, are intrusive and frightening if they are unwelcome to the victim.

I personally don't consider that stalking and wouldn't like our legal system to even waste time on shit like that.

[Talus]

This is horseshit btw, I'm friends with plenty of women I used to bang.

Just in case you were wondering if you're wrong - yeah you are.

Or you are the exception to the rule.

[Edit: I'm on good terms with I'd say 90% of my exes, but good terms does not equal being friends or best friends, or hanging out on a consistent or semi-consistent basis with them.]

[Pringles]

This is horseshit btw, I'm friends with plenty of women I used to bang.

Just in case you were wondering if you're wrong - yeah you are.

Banged or dated though? There is a difference

[archibaldcrane]

It sounds to me like he got into a petty back and forth with her mom, some of which he's detailed, and when he went for the gusto (talking about her daughter fucking her new boyfriend - totally valid given that she threw away his NES IMO) her mom couldn't handle it and ran to the nice policeman to save her.

Total cunt move, but it worked.

[Tyche]

Online harassment can be charged as a felony. Watch your ass on facebook, MSN, etc. Eat the misdemeanor, while it's sort of a big deal, it's onyl as big as you make it. I'd put it behind you asap.

[Cyn]

I think you need perspective. When you break up with a girl in the future, for fuck's sake delete her from your contacts, block her on Facebook, etc. Men & women who have dated in the past aren't meant to be friends, let alone best friends, no matter how much you think that will work out, it won't.

That's retarded. I'm great friends with most of my ex-girlfriends. But I don't constantly harass them.

[Stumblingdrunk]

No it's not. She talked to him on the phone 2 weeks ago - only 2 weeks! And not only talked to him, badmouthed her current boyfriend to him.

had the texts been sent between 3-5pm as opposed to am it'd be harder to argue they were harassing. However sending repeated texts while people are trying to sleep, is in fact disruptive, or harassing. Also, sending texts to a mother and discussing her daughter's ability to cum was most likely the straw that broke the camels back.

[Arelian]

Couldn't he technically go to a small claims court for the things she threw away? As long as he can prove they were his and such at least.

[archibaldcrane]

Banged or dated though? There is a difference

I rarely bang women I'm not dating, although these aren't exactly multi-year deals here either.

[Bipolargod]

Big thing about stalking is not the method,as some states might include phone calls and internet stuff, is fear of physical harm.

true, but insulting someone over the phone is no means of having the cops called on someone, if its like that everyone who's ever been in a flame war with a friend is guilty of a crime, imo the bitch and her mom are psychos...find a new bitch and get over her, if she's gonna pull this bullshit on you she's obviously not worth your time

[archibaldcrane]

Couldn't he technically go to a small claims court for the things she threw away? As long as he can prove they were his and such at least.

If he wanted to go through the process, absolutely.

[Cyn]

OP sounds like he's as psycho as both of them.

[Faris]

haha, you were harrassing her bro.

let me outline what could have caused her to report you to the cops.

3am-5am and basically sadface'd her

sadface'd her..like what? "im gonna kill myself if you dont talk me" kinda of shit? im sure it was something disturbing enough to scare a girl enough for her to tell her mom to deal with you.

Being a depressed emo 20 yr old I only wanted my ex to talk to me one last time

seeing the shit that kids do nowadays, and thanks for the media for inflating that thought, parents are terrified from everyone now. dont say shit like that in a scurred society.

In response I talk shit and I pwn her fucking face through and through

that could given her the impression you're mentally unstable and maybe you're a threat, and that anger could be physical.


I think you need to man up and stop acting like a fucking pussy when you get dumped.