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    debbie downers are the reason emo emilies exist.

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    even if it passed senate, the president wouldn't touch it.

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    Well i know that, but now you're just trying to prove my half hearted thread in spam right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhinox View Post
    ahahhahahaha


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    where there anyone dressed up in period costumes?

    Funny if it wasn't for you no one would have known anything about it.

    I don't know what is funnier. The fact that a handful of pretentious assholes think that gathering in a golf resort is tantamount to a continental congress or that fact that that they think they will accomplish anything.
    ITT: stop trying to add transparency as promised because ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes11 View Post
    ITT: stop trying to add transparency as promised because ?

    Wat

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    pretty much what I said. I don't know what you said lol; i was guessing

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    Never said that nor did I ever Imply that.


    What I said was I found it funny that 50 year old bald men are playing make-believe thinking they can actually change government policy from a golf resort.

    Don't know how the fuck you reached your conclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhinox View Post
    Never said that nor did I ever Imply that.


    What I said was I found it funny that 50 year old bald men are playing make-believe thinking they can actually change government policy from a golf resort.

    Don't know how the fuck you reached your conclusion.
    Yeah....because you know the two delegates who spoke today at the End the Fed Rally were 50....Like the 25 year old women delegate from Missouri, Catherine Bleish, or the 20 something delegate Schaeffer Cox from Fair Banks, Alaska...right?

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=220069

    Both great speeches. Schaeffers should be up sometime soon. Oh yeah, I guess you like to summarily dismiss the evidence gathered over 14 years about the usurptions of our rights by this Government and hide in your little box. That's ok, sheep can be sheep. The American Revolution was done by a minority.

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    Wouldn't it have just been easier to say representatives from all states except North Dakota and Oklahoma? Damned wordy documents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rothbardian View Post
    Yeah....because you know the two delegates who spoke today at the End the Fed Rally were 50....Like the 25 year old women delegate from Missouri, Catherine Bleish, or the 20 something delegate Schaeffer Cox from Fair Banks, Alaska...right?

    http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=220069

    Both great speeches. Schaeffers should be up sometime soon. Oh yeah, I guess you like to summarily dismiss the evidence gathered over 14 years about the usurptions of our rights by this Government and hide in your little box. That's ok, sheep can be sheep. The American Revolution was done by a minority.

    You're seriously delusional if you believe a second revolution is ever going to happen.

    if obama loses 2012 all the GOP obama haters would jump off your little bandwagon and the LP will be back to obscurity from whence it came until the next Democratic president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhinox View Post
    You're seriously delusional if you believe a second revolution is ever going to happen.

    if obama loses 2012 all the GOP obama haters would jump off your little bandwagon and the LP will be back to obscurity from whence it came until the next Democratic president.
    This isn't about the LP. This isn't about Obama. This is about liberty. We have no allegiance to any one party. Any candidate who is libertarian we support. I'm sure the people in 1775 thought the same things you did. Secondly, everyone there abhorred Obama, Bush, Cheney, Neo-Cons, Liberals, Bernanke, Geithner, Paulson, Greenspan, etc. You literally have no idea. It is okay, continue to eat what you are told to. Besides, Mark Schulz the starter of CC2009 and We the People Foundation has been doing this for the past 14 years and had it brought all the way to the SCOTUS. I guess you missed the preamble. According to Cato's latest poll, 23% of the American People consider themselves libertarian. Even if just half participated, that is plenty.

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    If Obama loses to Palin the world will declare America over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rothbardian View Post
    This isn't about the LP. This isn't about Obama. This is about liberty. We have no allegiance to any one party. Any candidate who is libertarian we support. I'm sure the people in 1775 thought the same things you did. Secondly, everyone there abhorred Obama, Bush, Cheney, Neo-Cons, Liberals, Bernanke, Geithner, Paulson, Greenspan, etc. You literally have no idea. It is okay, continue to eat what you are told to. Besides, Mark Schulz the starter of CC2009 and We the People Foundation has been doing this for the past 14 years and had it brought all the way to the SCOTUS. I guess you missed the preamble. According to Cato's latest poll, 23% of the American People consider themselves libertarian. Even if just half participated, that is plenty.
    Cato is about as credible as the heritage foundation. and here we go again throwing the conspiracy theory known as the Left-right Paradigm.


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    <<< PhD student in Business. It will be a dark day when the government interferes with the Fed and/or accounting standard setting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarthelloSylph View Post
    <<< PhD student in Business. It will be a dark day when the government interferes with the Fed and/or accounting standard setting.
    that's odd.

    as a business student you should appreciate a little clarity from the institution that singlehandedly influences all market operations in US and arguably around the world.

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    Adam's (Kokesh) speech at the End the Fed Rally in Arizona.

    America! I could tell you that we are turning a corner, but we're not. I could tell you that we are coming to a crossroads, but we're not. I could tell you, that as a country, we are taking a good long look in the mirror, but that too, would be just another ignorant illusion intended to lull you back to sleep. We are driving off the edge of a cliff, and our government is slamming down on the accelerator!

    I hope that someday, your children and your grandchildren will be blessed enough to be free enough to want to know: What did you do when your rights were being auctioned off to special interests? What did you do when your country was being sold out from underneath you? What did you do when your government became little more than a grand scheme to steal from the poor to give to the rich? I know that I want to have a very good answer so that when I die, I will die knowing that I dedicated everything that I had to creating a freer, more peaceful world of abundance for my children.

    The most dangerous word in the world today is capitalism. The establishment hates this word because it represents an idea. This idea means freedom, equality under the law, and prosperity for a society that respects and protects the rights of every human being regardless of wealth, age, gender, color, race, or creed and holds all forms of coercive force morally reprehensible. This idea is so dangerous to the established order of exploitation that it has been slandered. This idea has been violently resisted. This idea has been shot to hell and back, but as we know, ideas are bulletproof!

    Every attempt to indulge the impossible illusion of material equality has been met by a frustrating reality of mass exploitation and widespread poverty. This sacrifice of morality for materialism is the product of that same evil element of human nature that would have you trade liberty for security with the resulting loss of both. They would have you believe that you must be rich, or greedy, or evil, but make no mistake: if you believe in the right to own your self, if you believe in the right to own property, if you believe in the right to trade your property, if you believe in freedom as I do from the bottom of my heart, then you too, are a capitalist!

    Economically, a free society is like a rough fabric tossed over rugged terrain. When the Fed was born, it pulled up a point of that fabric and created the grossly unnatural spike of wealth and power around it. Just below the bankers are the federal government and the financial system and below them are the host of corrupt corporations that Thomas Jefferson predicted would result from any central bank. Down here, the rest of us have a mere illusion of freedom, and a sick semblance of the rights to own and freely trade our own property. But we have been conditioned by government run schools and an endless stream of propaganda to curse the illusion instead of fighting for real freedom.

    You want to be a threat to the establishment? You want to really stick it to the man? Speak the truth! And the truth is that what we have now is not capitalism! When you have a false authority in society that has a monopoly on the medium of exchange, that is not capitalism. When you have a small group of men that can print claims to wealth without creating anything of value, that is not capitalism. When you have a central bank that has permission from the government to steal from every American with a dollar in their pocket by inflation, that is not capitalism. Inflation is a tax and the power to tax is the power to destroy and the Federal Reserve is destroying America! There is nothing that gives the US dollar any value other than a shared illusion, wishful thinking, and a devastating lie. It is time to reject this system outright and conduct our lives accordingly. Tune in, turn on, cash out!

    America is finally asking, like a curious child, “Mommy, where does money come from?” As Henry Ford said, “It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.” We are starting to understand, we are starting to revolt, and it may not be done by tomorrow morning, but make no mistake, there is another revolution occurring in America!

    Every true revolution has been a philosophical revolution first. Revolution is a phenomenon of hearts and minds. It is only the resistance to revolution by the establishment that has been a source of violence. John Adams said, “The Revolution was effected before the War commenced. The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments of their duties and obligations. This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people, was the real American Revolution.” This new revolution is a shift to a new paradigm. It is a shift away from government, and towards community. It is a shift away from authority, and towards freedom. It is a shift away from fear, and towards love.

    The most dangerous people in the world are those of you who think for yourselves. Every day, more and more Americans are starting to do just that. The worse things get, the more people start questioning the elaborate illusion painted for us with propaganda, and therein lies the opportunity! It is time we make the freedom movement a threat to the establishment. If you don't have an opposition candidate to vote for, you are powerless in the face of a corrupt congressman. If you don't have a candidate who represents you, it's time to jump in the race yourself! If you're not running, find and support someone who is. If your threats remain idle, they will continue to ignore you.

    You don't do politics? That's ok. Politics will keep doing you.

    This is not a revolution of talking points that will be broadcast through the mainstream media, but a revolution of individuals sharing their passions with others. The first American revolution was a whisper that grew to a gale force. A spark that became a raging fire. An idea, that ended a tyranny. So must our revolution be today. There might be no fireworks. There might be no parades. There might be no election that tells you the revolution has succeeded. As Reverend Yearwood says, “The revolution will not be televised, but it will be uploaded!” In fact, it has already begun and our founders were wise enough to put not only the answers to most of our problems right there in the Constitution but also the electoral means by which we can realize this revolution peacefully.

    To harken back to the ideals upon which this country was founded will get you branded as an extremist. To be a champion of the US Constitution will get you denounced as a radical. But the truth is far more serious. To live these ideals, to dedicate your life to these values, will make you a revolutionary. Remember, when we say revolution, we say it with love. This revolution is merely one segment of the inevitable exponential arc of the story of humanity towards a state of perfect liberty.

    We are blessed to live in a country that became the forefront of that progress by a revolution of hearts and minds, a revolution of ideas, a revolution against the divine right of kings. This new American revolution is a paradigm shift away from the divine right of government! The Goliath of our day is the Federal Reserve System of the United States of America! When we realize this revolution, America will once again be that city on the hill, that beacon to the world, and our last great hope on earth for liberty will not be lost! My name is Adam Kokesh, and that is why I'm proud to be an American!

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    yeah, there was never any wealth gap and abuse of power/government before the Fed.

    oh wait lol

    also, lol at american government hating capitalism. as if it didn't have a history of trying to spread it, not to mention enabling it domestically.

    furthermore, libertarians' gross romanticizing of the American Revolution and our first 100 years is absolutely laughable. for all the banter about not eating what you're being fed, libertarians seem to lap up the standard institutionalized 4th grade version of our history and founders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guartz View Post
    that's odd.

    as a business student you should appreciate a little clarity from the institution that singlehandedly influences all market operations in US and arguably around the world.
    Markets can handle everything well, almost everything...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leif View Post
    On a side note, you shouldn't quote The Huffington Post as your "discussion topic", and then proceed to bold the sentences you think are most important.

    [...]

    It's a sleazy trick and doesn't give anybody the best idea of what is going on. Like any news story, sentences are organized in order of importance. Let it speak for itself.
    Oh the ironing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gryffes View Post
    The point is, to stop them printing more money.
    Seems a little late for that.

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