Lyft Weapon Testing/Speculation

[Rufusruferson]

TP bonus is a tp-modifer towards the WS, not a conserve TP trait.

I know, but instead of having to wait for 150% TP, you can go at 100% TP, and get the same result, that's my point.

[Pergo]

i mean i agree that hagun is still probably better, but i doubt anyone waits for 150tp .

[Thunder]

I know, but instead of having to wait for 150% TP, you can go at 100% TP, and get the same result, that's my point.

No. Lyft gkt has 6more dmg and 5 more str than hagun(neither are confirmed on gkt yet). So if you waited to 150% each time with that gkt it would outdmg hagun's wss.

Regardless, both want to WS at 100% and the lyft gkt will not outdmg hagun's wss and the gap isn't small enough for 6 base damage on melee to beat.

[Rufusruferson]

Nevertheless, Nothing can be set in concrete until someone actually gets the Unshomaru to drop, I'll probably try again later tonight, If I see that it doesn't give the visible STR Bonus, or any stat bonus from having party members, I'd say that yeah it has some sort of TP Bonus, probably of similar nature to the other Lyft Weapons, such that it increases depending on your party member number, I mean, eitherway, testing still needs to be done, but, who knows for sure, testing for TP Bonus blows :/

[chiyio]

shouldnt be that difficult to test for TP bonus.

Ronfaure bunnies + Unshomaru vs Ushikirimaru (ushiki should win due to 1 extra D + 2 STR, unless you can get your hands on a Butachi +1, or even just go against Butachi NQ). The question is the TP bonus scaled by PT as well as the STR bonus?

[Rufusruferson]

shouldnt be that difficult to test for TP bonus.

Ronfaure bunnies + Unshomaru vs Ushikirimaru (ushiki should win due to 1 extra D + 2 STR, unless you can get your hands on a Butachi +1, or even just go against Butachi NQ). The question is the TP bonus scaled by PT as well as the STR bonus?

That's what I'm thinking, I'm gonna speculate that Unshomaru doesn't have STR or DEX bonuses like the other ones do, instead it scales TP Bonus depending on Party Members, like 50% for 0 Members, and then 60 for 3, 70 for 4, and so on, but who knows, that's just what I speculate.

[lathia]

Friend of mine can confirm Unshomaru gives a STR bonus aswell with a full party.

Seems to be +6 STR, not sure about anything less than 6 members. Will post as he does more tests.

edit:

+1 with a 3 member party. Might be the same as the GA posted not sure.

[jimbobsonofgod]

It is speculated that these weapons may be able to be augmented nicely with the upcoming Synergy System.

I highly doubt you'll be able to augment these when synergy system comes out. if you can , that would open the door to all rare/ex being augmentable, and lord knows I don't want to be tempted to augment my Tizona.

[BerenTebogo]

I highly doubt you'll be able to augment these when synergy system comes out. if you can , that would open the door to all rare/ex being augmentable, and lord knows I don't want to be tempted to augment my Tizona.

I didn't say that!

DAMN YOU SCIENCE

[saracrow]

lyft taber bonuses (parties above 2 people effect)
+1 dex +2 att for each person, caps at +4 dex and +8 attack with 6 person pt.

Tried it off hand and same bonuses.


Interesting fact, I didn't see the bonuses at first until i had a buff on me, then they appeared. After buff was gone, i still had the bonuses.

[Nightfyre]

I highly doubt you'll be able to augment these when synergy system comes out. if you can , that would open the door to all rare/ex being augmentable, and lord knows I don't want to be tempted to augment my Tizona.

Your Synergy furnace explodes!
A Tizona was lost.

[Cream Soda]

And nothing of value was lost

[Nightfyre]

And nothing of value was lost

Hush you >_>

[Rufusruferson]

So, I'm starting to test with my Lyft Lance again, I joined a party in Ve'Lug. Palace, a different entrance to the group, but on the same map, but I didn't receive any bonuses, so you may have to be close to your party members to receive the STR bonuses.

EDIT: Similarly in the Ru'Aun Gardens, I didn't receive any bonuses from being in the same zone, but they were far away

EDIT2: Now, Im not on the same map in the Shrine of Ru'Av. but I still get the +2 STR I get from having 4 people in my pt...

[tsola]

I can't get my Lyft Ferule(club) to give me any stat bonuses. Tried with a full PT and didn't seem to do anything.

Not sure if I'm doing anything wrong, or maybe it just doesn't give any.

[chiyio]

I can't get my Lyft Ferule(club) to give me any stat bonuses. Tried with a full PT and didn't seem to do anything.

Not sure if I'm doing anything wrong, or maybe it just doesn't give any.

maybe its MAB, macc, hMP? they were all in area, right?

[ClarkSammich]

I can't get my Lyft Ferule(club) to give me any stat bonuses. Tried with a full PT and didn't seem to do anything.

Not sure if I'm doing anything wrong, or maybe it just doesn't give any.

Possible that the bonuses are hidden, i.e. -enmity, HMP, cure potency, etc.

[Byrthnoth]

lyft taber bonuses (parties above 2 people effect)
+1 dex +2 att for each person, caps at +4 dex and +8 attack with 6 person pt.

Tried it off hand and same bonuses.


Interesting fact, I didn't see the bonuses at first until i had a buff on me, then they appeared. After buff was gone, i still had the bonuses.

*dramatic reverb*
This increases the probability of an Acc bonus on 2H Lyft weapons. I'd be unsurprised if SE gave Atk/Dex to 1H weapon and 2H weapons Acc/STR. They've always been tards like that.

The Ninja has 316 Attack with a Katana on and +1 Dex from it.
8+63STR/2+Skill+Gear = 316
316-39 = 277
NIN 75 Katana cap is 269, FFXIAH for the Feinare claims 4 merits into it (+8 ), so it does not appear that the Katana gives +2 Attack per point of Dex like Saracrow reported for the Tabar. That means there's hope it gives Accuracy, or the Tabar might just be special.

[Onorgul]

Anyone have Lyft Sainti to test? I want to laugh and laugh if SE decided to make them boost bloody VIT in a party.

[FailureMidgard]

pt of 1 (solo) or 2 = 0 str
pt of 3 = 1 str
pt of 4 = 2 str
pt of 5 = 3 str
pt of 6 = 4 str

so you can look at it either as .75 per pt member, or +1 str for every pt member over 2

No you're wrong.

2*.75=1.5
3*.75=2.25
4*.75=3.0
5*.75=3.75
6*.75=4.5

2: 1
3: 2
4: 3
5: 3
6: 4

Maybe it's .9375 per party member though.