Lyft Weapon Testing/Speculation

[Belgaer]

Good Cannonball sword?

If you don't have Wing Sword (or +1), Koggelmander, or even maybe Ifrit's Blade, sure. >.>


As for the Hagun and Unshomaru testing goes, that's factoring only weaponskill damage. If you take into consideration the (much) higher DMG (as well as the STR+4 adding to fSTR and base damage) and DPS, Unshomaru would win in anything save for zergs or short fights where you'll weapon skill more often than you normally would. If the difference in WS damage was more, I'd say Hagun would win, but the difference is pretty small and I feel the better DPS would more than make up for it.

[TummieGaruda]

If you don't have Wing Sword (or +1), Koggelmander, or even maybe Ifrit's Blade, sure. >.>


As for the Hagun and Unshomaru testing goes, that's factoring only weaponskill damage. If you take into consideration the (much) higher DMG (as well as the STR+4 adding to fSTR and base damage) and DPS, Unshomaru would win in anything save for zergs or short fights where you'll weapon skill more often than you normally would. If the difference in WS damage was more, I'd say Hagun would win, but the difference is pretty small and I feel the better DPS would more than make up for it.

It's really hard to say but I would think they would be fairly close in non zerg situations.

Unshomaru is going to have a higher fstr cap (17) vs Hagun (16) and Unshomaru gives you +1 more total fstr than Hagun would due to the +4 str. You aren't going to melee in STR gear so the fstr is going to be relatively low in calculating melee damage. So for the heck of it lets just say 5 fstr with Hagun. Unshomaru will have 6 due to the +4 str

Hagun = 75+5 = 80
Unshomaru = 81 + 6 = 87

Unshomaru has the potential to do roughly 8% more melee dmg, but as seen from my earlier post, Hagun would do 3% more dmg during weaponskills.

[Hegarty]

So how hard are the NMs that drop them and what are the drop rates like? I imagine they will be insanely camped if they are used in Synergy.

[Almalexia]

So how hard are the NMs that drop them and what are the drop rates like? I imagine they will be insanely camped if they are used in Synergy.

Voirloup, the Lyft Sainti gnole NM, is annoying to melee: enstun, two attacks per round, high damage per hit and he only uses Noxblast. Luckily, there is a log near his spawn where you can kite him. Poor mob pathing makes it easy for 3 people (or 2 people and 1 PUP) to safely kite-nuke the NM to death.

Beware the Orc RNG that camps the watchtower near the log.

0/1 with no TH. So it has a 0% drop rate.

[Sakuraryong]

So how hard are the NMs that drop them and what are the drop rates like? I imagine they will be insanely camped if they are used in Synergy.

1/6 on Vasiliceratops (Lyft Voulge), generally if you have under 1k HP expect to be one shotted if caught with shadows down.
100% DA is mean no idea if any en, usually he just one shots >.> easy enough to take down though, kite @ the J-11 fort bit in Grauberg :q

[Byrthnoth]

1/6 on Vasiliceratops (Lyft Voulge), generally if you have under 1k HP expect to be one shotted if caught with shadows down.
100% DA is mean no idea if any en, usually he just one shots >.> easy enough to take down though, kite @ the J-11 fort bit in Grauberg :q

Have you ever killed Dea, and do you know if the fights would be comparable for a RDM/NIN?

[ClarkSammich]

Have you ever killed Dea, and do you know if the fights would be comparable for a RDM/NIN?

My friend saw a RDM/NIN soloing it last night, from what she was saying I would imagine it's about the same. He kited it at the bridge in F-13/14, it would deaggro (but not unclaim) when it passed over water, allowing him to get a nuke in and keep running, so it may be slightly easier than Dea due to that.

[Hegarty]

Voirloup, the Lyft Sainti gnole NM, is annoying to melee: enstun, two attacks per round, high damage per hit and he only uses Noxblast. Luckily, there is a log near his spawn where you can kite him. Poor mob pathing makes it easy for 3 people (or 2 people and 1 PUP) to safely kite-nuke the NM to death.

Beware the Orc RNG that camps the watchtower near the log.

0/1 with no TH. So it has a 0% drop rate.

Cheers but anyone have info on the Polearm and Scythe mobs?

[Sakuraryong]

Have you ever killed Dea, and do you know if the fights would be comparable for a RDM/NIN?

I've killed Dea a few times but usually on BST. I've heard Vasil rages but my kill times were generally all under 30 mins. Wouldn't recommend trying really without W legs, enhanced movement though pathing isn't brilliant.

[mdkuser]

Cheers but anyone have info on the Polearm and Scythe mobs?

I think it's established the scythe is from that soulfayer NM ( according to wiki)? That NM seems a lottery spawn from the soulflayers from the area on the left when you enter hediva isle (khimera island). He uses regular Soulflayer attacks; sounds good but each time he casts a spell its flood-ga, cannot blink shit ... so its too anoying for me to care killing it atm...

[Not Kuno]

I messed around with the soulflayer yesterday. Saw it just up and unclaimed and wanted to try it. It is pullable to the zone (khim area), but it killed us because we only had 2 SMNs. Got it to 90%. Tried Levi which was so-so on taking water spells, but Mind Blast fucked em up. I only did one ramuh BP and it was ass dmg, but that might of been unlucky. Long story short, it killed both avatars and we all died. It casts fast and goes general soulflayer shit.

Also the soulflayer wasn't in the area in front of the enterance, it was down and to the left where a bunch of imps are. Opposite of Khim way.

[NynJa]

Afaik, mind blast is lightning base, shouldnt ramuh have decent survivabilty to flood and mind blast?

[Odin'sLaw]

Afaik, mind blast is lightning base, shouldnt ramuh have decent survivabilty to flood and mind blast?

i think he found that ramuh wasn't that great a tank for it

[Not Kuno]

Well I was the only one using ramuh, friend had a levi out then ramuh didn't last too long solo then it went downhill. The BP did ass damage so hate wasn't solid on it. Again, dunno if I just got unlucky with that BP or what, we didn't try again. We were just fucking around.

[psycho 4 life]

just got Lyft Sainti, tested with 3 ppl in party only notice Att +1, on a side note Att+1 was still there even after members disbanded, then was gone once i removed and re-equip

[Karbuncle]

I still think theres something we're missing, Like the stats enhance depending on what type of jobs are in the party.

Like with a STR+ Lyft weapon, that jobs heavy on STR will enhance it further... maybe?

I've been trying to get the stupid Lyft Voulge/Great Axe thing but no luck ._.

[ronin sparthos]

0/1 Cookieduster Lipiroon

-This thing runs faster than normal movement speed (Faster than 8%, less than 12%) and poison kicks fucking ass if you get meleed and fail to die within the first attack round.
-Typical hits on a COR: 300-400dmg/hit.

Kiting this thing is easy enough... till it decides to stop and lose hate constantly. It seems to be a favorite thing among the Lyft mobs ive fought.

[Yugl]

Good Cannonball sword?

For swords, you would need to not have the previously mentioned swords. In general, however, Vulcans+Brave Grip should beat that.

[Pergo]

just got my buddy lyft lance. i have lyft staff.

we had a pt of 3 ppl outside mog house (drg + whm + blm).

lyft lance gave him 1 str.

lyft staff gave me no base state. (testing for hidden cure potency also, nothing)

im assuming lance will go up to 4 str with full pt, someone in the nm thread mentioned it has a 50% tp mod, which is nice.

i'll do more testing later with both to try and figure out what staff gives, but it seems like jobs in pt doesn't determine stat bonus, and having 2 lyft weapons doesn't seem to enhance the stat bonus

[ronin sparthos]

just got my buddy lyft lance. i have lyft staff.

we had a pt of 3 ppl outside mog house (drg + whm + blm).

lyft lance gave him 1 str.

lyft staff gave me no base state. (testing for hidden cure potency also, nothing)

im assuming lance will go up to 4 str with full pt, someone in the nm thread mentioned it has a 50% tp mod, which is nice.

i'll do more testing later with both to try and figure out what staff gives, but it seems like jobs in pt doesn't determine stat bonus, and having 2 lyft weapons doesn't seem to enhance the stat bonus

How did you handle the slug NM?