[Phoenix] Iishin

[TMG]

If somebody steals a big ticket item on my server, they never hear the end of it from the majority of the population. They're forced to server hop or quit because we are not forgiving and a thief can't just fade into the crowd on a low population server. There's not a lot of drama here so when someone screws someone else over, we all hear about it and give them hell till they leave because we don't want that trash in our community.

Maybe on a larger server you let thieves get away with that sort of shit and forget about them till they do it again. On a smaller one there are plenty of people that will make their in-game experience as unpleasant as possible. A Cross-Server warning is perfectly acceptable. If there are any honest and respectable people on your server, they will make sure this guy doesn't get pearled by any other linkshell. He'll either quit the game or leave because he can't get anything else accomplished for being a douche bag on one Dynamis run.

Thank you for the warning.

[Despain]

Not like TH4 is fucking game breaking.

Spoiler: show

I went there.

[Tagus]

You guys might be right about this guy not transfering, because he was in an old ls of mine a year or so ago, and I believe they are still lacking a TH4. I don't really remember anything shady about him, or know if he's even still with them though.

Also, @ TMG - The endgame shells on Phoenix are way too busy trying to make each other miserable to coordinate an effort to blackball a measly ninja lotter.

[D44kpunk]

lol, th4

[Iishin1]

Here is a wall of text:

Okay, I was referred to this post by a friend of mine in game and I want to
hopefully explain my situation a bit. I live in an apartment complex of college
students numbering 180 units (including up to 3 bedroom apartments) that all
shares ONE t1 30 mb internet connection. So during the weekend around the times of about 3-12 PM I get some lag, ask some of my in game friends. So at the time this situation happens, ~6:15, the peak of peak hours, I'm struggling quite a bit to do anything. When I see the Assassin armlets drop, I try to pass, because I know its a rare item and I hated seeing an AF drop to someone who won't use it, like happened earlier that night in that very run, which I even complained about. So I sat there trying to click pass through all my lag as I start to D/C. I don't really care at this point because I assume that I actually passed and I know I have homework that I have to do that night, so i let it D/C. I don't sign on again. I know this is no comfort to the member that lost on the item and I know this in no way redeems me, but I just want you all to know what happened. I have no interest in leveling THF, and if I was actually going to try and ninja loot something I would have gone after the Dchap that dropped earlier, an item I actually want and can use, an item I have been trying to get for years since RDM was my very first 75. I have never ninja looted anything before. All I can say is I am sorry, anything I can do to make up for this I will, I hope this doesn't totally screw me over. Also I appreciate the fact that the poster decided to condemn me without first finding out what happened. Instead of waiting for me to sign on again to talk to me about it he condemns me as a thief and tells everyone about it. I have lost out on items do to friends bad connections or bad luck. It happens, I feel terrible, but I don't like being condemned publicly without first being talked to.

[Massimo]

LOL

The dog ate my homework, Ms. Daisy. I swear!

[Tagus]

lmfao... asshole OP didn't even wait to ask him if he did it on purpose? How did we miss that in our original analysis of the complaint?

[Dazd]

To be fair to Celeste most of the people who would ninja lot a dynamis drop aren't smart enough to drop party if a blm tried to D2 them.

[Shin Volcano]

Ah, that explains it all! i mean, accidently lotting armlets then just happens to DC right after and not come back. happens all the time. Then you feel terrible so you can have a chance to do it again.

But seriously, ninjalotting is something that will always be hard to explain, there is no easy way to get out of it, some people DO perform on accident but will people belive them? probably not.

[Mizango]

wat

[Drunknmunky]

lol, i'm a moron

Understood.

@Shin Volcano or Celeste:

Has Iishin done this in the past? If he didn't he might be telling the truth.

[deiopea]

Bazaaring glass does nothing if the ninja looter lots <30sec before item drops.

[Limlight]

down to 2.5/10

people won't get off this bazaaring glass thing :/

[S N K]

Honestly if someone is going to steal shit from your Dynamis run, do you think that they're going to leave their glass in their bazaar or much less be in a party with a BLM?

Take the glass out of Bazaar, drop whatever PT you're in & you can pretty much ruin an entire Dynamis run for everyone.

Celeste,
Please just read what's posted above. People who want to get around the game's shitty lot system can & have done it. Bazaaring a Glass isn't a sure fire way to stop anyone from ganking anything.

[Ksandra]

Keep the thread on topic rather than just bickering at each other. Warning is valid so Celeste stop trying to back seat mod.

[karolinaphoenix]

I have to say something to this so public apology.. bleh
1.) The person the THF hands were intended for had lotted them, Iishin didnt "need" to pass or lot. He didnt need to touch the treasure pool at all.
2.) If I "accidentally" lotted something that was not mine to receive, and recieved it, I would never be so cavalier as to go do my homework before coming back from D/C and explaining, he says he knows its a rare drop and he did recieve. Whatever happened to common decency, telling a leader you have to go?
3.) The relic that auto dropped, no one wanted. BST I think.
4.) If his connection is so bad as he says, he shouldnt be touching the treasure pool at all, I'm sure you know all this, so sorry dont cut it with me.
and btw.. Celeste, I dont know who you are, so paranoid, this did happen in Calm once a very long time ago and even then there was no bazaared glass, the person was kicked. Most of Calm is Phoenix family, tight, we got each others backs, sorry you dont have that kind of relationship with your LS members too. That happens when you /shout for them maybe? and Tagus, pottymouth, you should know he didnt need to touch the treasure pool at all, specifically if he's lagging anyway, so thats just a lame excuse.

[Tagus]

I'm still waiting for a response to the whole, "I may have lotted the hands at the last second and immediately d/c'd and then not come back, but screw you guys for not asking me if I ninja lotted before posting a warning" thing.

p.s... karolina, I was being sarcastic. Obviously it was a ninja lot... my bad for being vague.

[Lionsheartt]

His post seems like pure BS to me, you expect people to believe you really "accidently" lotted the hands 12 seconds before it dropped then dc'd and went to do home work when you went with this LS for a trial? Yeah, not buying it.

And Celeste how can you even think that there's a way to stop it when it's so easy to get out of a party and lot it in the last couple of seconds? Even if they go to a city zone first they can easily wait until they do Xarc.

[D44kpunk]

Understood.

@Shin Volcano or Celeste:

Has Iishin done this in the past? If he didn't he might be telling the truth.

you're quite easily the dumbest person on the face of the earth, no joke. stop fucking posting here, really.

anyone who is sad enough to ninja lot THF af2 hands needs to quit the game along with this idiot i'm quoting.

if you seriously think that he "accidentally" lotted it when there was 10 seconds left til auto drop then you're handicap

edit: beaten, had page up too long

[Despain]

So wait. The guy didn't have THF leveled, but ninja lotted anyway? Has RDM leveled, but didn't try to ninja lot that?

Not that I care, but he might actually have a reasonable excuse D: He doesn't have a profile on AH, so I can't tell what level his THF is.