Synergy Findings/Discussion

[Carrilei]

Any suggestion on what to train after feeding? I'll have a weaver's smock after I cap on it, so I figure Repair might be pointless with Restorer's Touch available.. And 'recycle strewn fewell' seems like a joke, so hopefully capping all of thwack / pressure handle / safety lever assuming it will go to 100 is a good choice?

[SargentRemora]

been toying around with Ebon Frock until I can find someone with high CC, and it appears the second evolith slot can hold a 2hr ability evolith.

Edit: The Frock can only hold 2 Evolith slots, I managed to synth both on including the Manafont augment. Not tested the evolith yet, will do after or during Einherjar. Here is the Frock as it is, sorry for the large image.

http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/v...k_Manafont.jpg

[Darte]

So yesterday I leveled my synergy from 0-7 and I'm still unsure what durability exactly means.

Thwacking says it will reduce durability and I have yet to see much of a decrease in furnace HP, even when i spam thwack.

I have the same confusion with repair, anytime i do that, all it says is the durability of the furnace has improved, yet my furnace's HP is the same (or lower since time has elapsed).

Right now i'm purposely failing in order to skill up, but how does one prevent leakages of elements? Every now and then it'll say something like Thunder element has started to leak out of the pot. Is that the durability coming into play or something else?

[TummieGaruda]

So yesterday I leveled my synergy from 0-7 and I'm still unsure what durability exactly means.

Thwacking says it will reduce durability and I have yet to see much of a decrease in furnace HP, even when i spam thwack.

I have the same confusion with repair, anytime i do that, all it says is the durability of the furnace has improved, yet my furnace's HP is the same (or lower since time has elapsed).

Right now i'm purposely failing in order to skill up, but how does one prevent leakages of elements? Every now and then it'll say something like Thunder element has started to leak out of the pot. Is that the durability coming into play or something else?

I can't remember if its durability or if you have to add fewell of an opposing element, but it's one of the two.

[blowfin]

Right now i'm purposely failing in order to skill up, but how does one prevent leakages of elements? Every now and then it'll say something like Thunder element has started to leak out of the pot. Is that the durability coming into play or something else?

Nah elemental leakage is just what happens when you get a lot of one type of fuel in your recipe. You actually want this to occur for some items, it actually makes it possible to work the recipe before the crucible dies. An example being the alchemy hands and body, you actually want fire energy leaking from the furnace as this gives your water energy a boost over time.

So the basic theory is this: leaking an element will serve to boost the element that the leaking element is weak to, until the leaking stops

So e.g. leaking fire will boost water, leaking thunder will boost earth.

I'm not sure how light and dark will work with this theory, i'm assuming the same rule applies.

[TummieGaruda]

been toying around with Ebon Frock until I can find someone with high CC, and it appears the second evolith slot can hold a 2hr ability evolith.

Edit: The Frock can only hold 2 Evolith slots, I managed to synth both on including the Manafont augment. Not tested the evolith yet, will do after or during Einherjar. Here is the Frock as it is, sorry for the large image.

http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/v...k_Manafont.jpg

It sounds like the base Ebon might only allow for 2 evolith slots, and when you upgrade to the specialized piece you get 2 more?

[nitsuj]

Nah elemental leakage is just what happens when you get a lot of one type of fuel in your recipe. You actually want this to occur for some items, it actually makes it possible to work the recipe before the crucible dies. An example being the alchemy hands and body, you actually want fire energy leaking from the furnace as this gives your water energy a boost over time.

So the basic theory is this: leaking an element will serve to boost the element that the leaking element is weak to, until the leaking stops

So e.g. leaking fire will boost water, leaking thunder will boost earth.

I'm not sure how light and dark will work with this theory, i'm assuming the same rule applies.

All I read here is:

"Facing the direction which the crystal used is weak to will serve to boost the rate at which....."

Maybe SE has more complex crafting formula than BG thinks...

*hides from sath*

[macross]

It sounds like the base Ebon might only allow for 2 evolith slots, and when you upgrade to the specialized piece you get 2 more?

Think is a maximum of 3 slots on the final peice. Haven't etched lsmates robe yet so dunno;; But it does say on the pol site that up to 3 slots can be etched.

PS I wouldn't put any good evos in until you are happy with the strength of the sockets. Looks like you only got 2 power in the first socket which is kinda sucky. Need to erase it and try again till you HQ it and get 8. And erasing erases all etches, so you basicaly need to HQ 3x in a row when you etch to get maximum power.

As for skill, I have 5 thwack 5 feed. I focused on thwack first then feed. Pressure seems useless, think that just affects how much dmg the pot takes when it blows. If it never blows then no need to lower pressure ya? Unless high ass pressure can make the pot blow too.

Safety valve seems good, but alas it costs 6 darks. But I use it when I don't want any chance of an explosion by keeping the impurity low.

Feed, no clue what it really does sadly. But sure sounds like a good thing to lvl hehe.

[TummieGaruda]

Think is a maximum of 3 slots on the final peice. Haven't etched lsmates robe yet so dunno;; But it does say on the pol site that up to 3 slots can be etched.

PS I wouldn't put any good evos in until you are happy with the strength of the sockets. Looks like you only got 2 power in the first socket which is kinda sucky. Need to erase it and try again till you HQ it and get 8. And erasing erases all etches, so you basicaly need to HQ 3x in a row when you etch to get maximum power.

As for skill, I have 5 thwack 5 feed. I focused on thwack first then feed. Pressure seems useless, think that just affects how much dmg the pot takes when it blows. If it never blows then no need to lower pressure ya? Unless high ass pressure can make the pot blow too.

Safety valve seems good, but alas it costs 6 darks. But I use it when I don't want any chance of an explosion by keeping the impurity low.

Feed, no clue what it really does sadly. But sure sounds like a good thing to lvl hehe.

Ah ok 3 makes more sense. Also I am not sure I would socket any pieces until all the possible evoliths have been found. I think so far the community has only found maybe 60%?

[SargentRemora]

Said it on the Evolith discussion page as well, but the "Manafont: Ability Delay -1" removed a whole minute off the recast...

[Darte]

Hell yea, my 2hr is 1 min faster than yours!

[blowfin]

All I read here is:

"Facing the direction which the crystal used is weak to will serve to boost the rate at which....."

Lol, nothing like that, this actually happens.

What i'm saying is, having something leaking isn't such a bad thing.

[Sho]

Said it on the Evolith discussion page as well, but the "Manafont: Ability Delay -1" removed a whole minute off the recast...

The REAL question is, did it remove a minute off of Elemental Seal while Manafont was active?

[SargentRemora]

The REAL question is, did it remove a minute off of Elemental Seal while Manafont was active?

Didn't try at the time, but hit Manafont then Elemental Seal just now and only the Manafont recast was affected.

[jupeeh]

-1 minute...wow that's epicly disappointing.

[Kaslo]

Actually if someone can augment several pieces with say several -3 for soul voice it may be use... say like something that will add up to say -60 or -90? >.>

30 min soul voices would be broken for merits

[shepardG]

30 min Astral Flow would be broken for merits

FTFY

[Jeryhn]

Only if evolith augments could be used under Level Sync...

[TummieGaruda]

Actually if someone can augment several pieces with say several -3 for soul voice it may be use... say like something that will add up to say -60 or -90? >.>

30 min soul voices would be broken for merits

Has anyone even verified if you can stack evoliths on the same slot? For instance, you have a max of 8 elemental affinity on a gear piece with a light and circle. If each 2hr Recast -1 has a strength of 2 for the light, can you stack it 4 times to get a total of 4 min off your two hour? I know it might not seem like much, but it would mean a lot for the other Evoliths which so far have very low stats. It would kind of make sense to me because if you look at some of the evoliths like Vs. Birds Accuracy +2, it only has a max strength of 1, while other more stronger Evoliths like Magical Critical hitrate +5 has a 7 as the strength. If you can stack the Vs. Birds Accuracy +2 eight times on an Ebon Evolith (Max str of 8) you can potentially get +16 Accuracy against birds, and if you have Shikokku Togi, that is 8 on the body and +16 more for a total of +24 against birds. But that could get out of hand and broken. For instance, the Ebon Coat has +4 MAB built in. Lightning Elemental Magic: Critical Hitrate +2 has a max of 4 for the element. Stack that twice on an Ebon Piece and you get a 4% chance to get +10 more MAB on lightning spells. This is just plain observation...we just need someone to prove or disprove the theory of stacking evoliths, because if its true, it would make a lot more sense.

[SargentRemora]

It might even be possible to stack Evolith augments not only on the same piece, but using the rest of the Ebon set (i.e. head/body etc).

I'll be removing the Manafont augment from Frock anyways once I find someone with enough Cloth to synth it into Bliaut, then I'll start toying with that to make my ideal idol piece for smn until I finish Jubbah