Synergy Findings/Discussion

[Karbuncle]

Has any one compiled a list of gear with the etched shape and size? I'm dying to find where I can put half of the evolith I've acquired so far...

I can't say a large list but the Leather armor set, and the Level 30 Leather Armor set can both be etched.

outside of that i know Engetsu, Koenig Shield, Kabutowari/+1, Behemoth Knife/+1, Bone knife/+1

[Virtuous Saint]

I missed that, yes that makes my head hurt, especially with SO MANY different shapes. i guess it was to make sure you couldn't put "Mijin Gakure Ability Delay -1" on a Mage Robe but...

Why would they care about that lol? You can get divine magic on a weskit augment.

[Salodin]

Why would they care about that lol? You can get divine magic on a weskit augment.

That is sad.

And the whole thing does seem a little too complicated for it's own good. Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy it now that I've given it some time, but there are just one too many holes to jump through to get what you want.

I mean dang, I'm still looking for a weapon to put these 2hr ability delays on...Ohh! Has any one tried a warp cudgel?

[Thiefami]

/sigh can we just get back to findings and not bitching? if people wanna bitch can we start another thread for it?

^please and thank you

[Karbuncle]

Why would they care about that lol? You can get divine magic on a weskit augment.

You can sub PLD or WHM for Divine Magic such as Flash or Banish, i know its gimp but they also apparently expected SMN to pimp out /BLM at one point. by SE's logic Divine Magic skill+1 on a weskit is still usable thanks to sub jobs.

However you can't go WHM/NIN and get Mijin Gakure, Can't say for sure why they care about it, but it appears they do.

[ronin sparthos]

Yes that's why I say you are an idot. Low drop rate is acceptable if it leads to good reward, you are defending a system with zero reward that cost you gil and time, and you know that it will reward nothing (so far..), actually no, we knew the rewards back in november through dat mining. Even if the drop rate on a salvage piece was 1/100 it would be worth it. Time sink is acceptable and that's what a MMO is about. Time sink when you know you won't get good reward is stupid.

...because you are the end all on what "good rewards" and "bad rewards" are?

People do what they find fun in an MMO and the timesink they pick just goes with what they feel like putting up with. Most of BG deemed MMM garbage yet I see people all over Lakshmi with the rewards from it. "But the rewards are garbage!" cried BG but it seems alot of people disagreed and went along and enjoyed the content regardless.

The same thing went for Chocobo Racing (which i openly bashed forever). When those jockey coats came out, the amount of people running around with them was staggering and I promptly felt like an ass for being so arrogant as to assume no one was doing it.

Someone could grind for months for a mythic weapon that they know is inferior to something off the AH but they don't care... know why? Because some people just play for the challenge of getting rare gear. This game is all about marginal gains.

Not everyone goes into XI for the sake of being a min/maxer and if everyone was, alot of the stuff on the AH that moves today wouldn't be moving at all. (Byrnies, RDM JSE, Domaruuuuuuuz etc)

Not every XI player logs in to bitch about how boring Dynamis is but they'll continue going to it for that one piece that ultimately is a marginal gain over whatever they were using before. Not every XI player bitches about how easy kings is but refuses to do the harder content because "luls it isnt worth it". Not every player logs in with the mindset that the world revolves around Greater Colibri and anything harder is "not worth my time lulz". Not every player logs into XI to be the "god of the parser" at every single event with one epenis to rule them all.

See where this is going? Im sure you'll say you don't.

Anyways, this synergy thing will end up like FoV and i'll bet the farm on that.

[pchan]

Most of BG deemed MMM garbage yet I see people all over Lakshmi with the rewards from it. "But the rewards are garbage!" cried BG but it seems alot of people disagreed and went along and enjoyed the content regardless.

MMM has good rewards

[TummieGaruda]

In regards to Aptants, I really wish SE increased the droprate. I think it is a very bad decision on their part to only have certain aptants drop from 3-4 NM's with the droprate as low as it is, especially since now they are becoming increasingly difficult to claim due to the fact that that word has gotten out on how the aptants are used. It would be a lot better if they increased the droprate to near 100%, or at least give us an option to create an Aptant via Synergy by using a Job Testimony that is related to the Aptant.

[Viq]

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...mmInterest.jpg

[Virtuous Saint]

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...mmInterest.jpg

Rofl I knew you would make a post backing MMM after those comments about it. Sad that you would bother tho;/.

[Karbuncle]

Has any one compiled a list of gear with the etched shape and size? I'm dying to find where I can put half of the evolith I've acquired so far...

Just found out theres a nice sized list on Wiki, quite a few armors and weapons have been added, just go here.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ca...ription/Novice

Up to Novice is listed, anything past that is blank.

[Mazmaz]

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i2...mmInterest.jpg

HEY

[urat]

Did we find if most of the brd ebon set pieces have upwards filled triangles?

Id love to stick some vs birds macc+7 and enfeebling light macc+7 on those pieces, if they have two upwards triangles you could potentially pile on like 21 macc for lullaby on top of the chr and macc on the pieces already.

Also, any findings on the strength of the fast cast on head/body or still too early? Trying to decide between ebon body or manteel...

[kanitta]

Tried mythic wand +1 and npc said it can hold ▼ element fire and max size 7.

[miokomioko]

Did we find if most of the brd ebon set pieces have upwards filled triangles?

Id love to stick some vs birds macc+7 and enfeebling light macc+7 on those pieces, if they have two upwards triangles you could potentially pile on like 21 macc for lullaby on top of the chr and macc on the pieces already.

Also, any findings on the strength of the fast cast on head/body or still too early? Trying to decide between ebon body or manteel...

Correct me if I'm wrong... but isn't it impossible to etch two or more slots on the same piece of gear with the same element+shape? Thus, I don't think you'll ever get a bonus larger than any single evolith can hold.

[Corrderio]

Stupid question, but I don't want to look through 20 pages for it. I've recently been trying synergy and somewhat confused about it. Someone said to skill up on Astral Matter by making sure the process is never complete. I'm curious if this does work and if so how do you do it? I tried my friend's suggestion of running from the furnace but haven't got one skill up yet. I also tried to end the end synergy command checking the furnace but no luck.

[urat]

Correct me if I'm wrong... but isn't it impossible to etch two or more slots on the same piece of gear with the same element+shape? Thus, I don't think you'll ever get a bonus larger than any single evolith can hold.

Ah but you see Vs birds macc+ is http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/ff...TriangleUp.gif and light enfeeble macc+ is http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/ff...TriangleUp.gif thus if one is the first slot and the other is the third slot you could potentially get macc+ at least 14 for lullaby on birds :3

Toss in something like light songs casting time- and you have the most kick ass lullaby body in the game... At least I think...

[Julian]

People use lullaby on birds?

[miokomioko]

Ah but you see Vs birds macc+ is http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/ff...TriangleUp.gif and light enfeeble macc+ is http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/ff...TriangleUp.gif thus if one is the first slot and the other is the third slot you could potentially get macc+ at least 14 for lullaby on birds :3

Toss in something like light songs casting time- and you have the most kick ass lullaby body in the game... At least I think...

I see what you mean, but I think Lullaby doesn't count as Light-Based Enfeebling Magic... only Light Based Songs...

[urat]

Yeah looking at that I was wondering that too, If anything vs birds macc and light/earth song casting time- are pretty nice.