Hunts and Evolith Discussion

[Kaylia]

Also WoW reference GTFO such a stupid ass response "hur hur, if you don't like it go play WoW!"

Yeah, because people really wanted Augment system to exclude rare/ex items, and give you the opportunity to lose everything in the process.

Instead of acting like an offended nun, take 2 minutes to think why a system that allows you to apply "positive buff" to any existing equipments is more interesting for players.

And replace WoW with Dungeons and Dragons if it hurts your fancy. Do you know how ridiculous it is to take offence in a game, when the concept I was pointing out is generally applies to many games.


Anyway, back to evolith, I don't give a shit about this.

[orson]

Yeah, because people really wanted Augment system to exclude rare/ex items, and give you the opportunity to lose everything in the process.

Instead of acting like an offended nun, take 2 minutes to think why a system that allows you to apply "positive buff" to any existing equipments is more interesting for players.

And replace WoW with Dungeons and Dragons if it hurts your fancy. Do you know how ridiculous it is to take offence in a game, when the concept I was pointing out is generally applies to many games.


Anyway, back to evolith, I don't give a shit about this.

I'm not sure how that boils down to being offended but ok. Whenever anyone mentions you should go play WoW it's because they usually don't have a actual point other than defending SE for the sake of defending them.

Also the augmenting system isn't a bad thing in of itself. What I don't think is all that useful is the ridiculous situational gear that this is going to produce. If you've looked at the evolith enhancements they are all very restricted based on element, magic type, mob type, etc. There are no plain +STR/DEX/INT/Skill evoliths at all. The big thing is though it's forcing you to level a new craft just to make use of it.

Like sure maybe I'll be able to make an I.Weskit with ice elemental magic: +2 mab but do you really have the inventory space for that kind of upgrades? I only have 3 level 75 jobs and I'm already swamped with gear for the most part.

[Suljin]

Rompanneu = Enh Magic water: recast delay -3% [wind, empty triangle, 5](aquaveil, thou shalt save me!)
nm worm in N Gustaberg: vs birds MAcc + 4 [water, full triangle, 4]

[AppleJ]

Give it time, it may be a bust, and it may not. Salvage was deemed a bust when it first came out, as was Sea, CoP dynamis. Granted some of these requiered patches, they're some of the more popular things now.

Or you can view it from the perspective that they are popular because people still need items from them, beucase of the horrible Effort/Reward Ratio they have. If drop rates were higher in all 3, they would be less popular now, since everyone would have their little items. SE knows how to make a game last long, make it so it takes forever to accomplish your goals...

[Khajit]

The only reason i need anything from salvage was the fact that i leveled a new 75 job which meant a whole new set to get in conjunction with taking several breaks from ffxi due to computer/ps2 troubles.

[Kaylia]

Rompanneu = Enh Magic water: recast delay -3% [wind, empty triangle, 5](aquaveil, thou shalt save me!)
nm worm in N Gustaberg: vs birds MAcc + 4 [water, full triangle, 4]

For a second, I thought I saw "recast delay -3%". Read too fast...

Do we have any ideas what type of magic can be obtained? Aside stoneskin (assuming you can use it on an item with a lot of mnd), I can't think of many enhancing spells that are long enough to bother.

I'm not sure how that boils down to being offended but ok. Whenever anyone mentions you should go play WoW it's because they usually don't have a actual point other than defending SE for the sake of defending them.

Also the augmenting system isn't a bad thing in of itself. What I don't think is all that useful is the ridiculous situational gear that this is going to produce. If you've looked at the evolith enhancements they are all very restricted based on element, magic type, mob type, etc. There are no plain +STR/DEX/INT/Skill evoliths at all. The big thing is though it's forcing you to level a new craft just to make use of it.

Like sure maybe I'll be able to make an I.Weskit with ice elemental magic: +2 mab but do you really have the inventory space for that kind of upgrades? I only have 3 level 75 jobs and I'm already swamped with gear for the most part.

I was talking about augments from the books, not evoliths. If you want to bundle all of these together, my biggest complaint is that it only allow a few top tier equipments to be created, meaning that once again, 96% of it will be ignored.

FFXI could really use a new forms of grinding that is completely independant from the rest. At the moment, you have gears, xp grind (jobs and merits), and crafting (you could include MMM for people like me who enjoy the "Catch'em all" feeling), but sadly, that's not what this system offer.

Well, the crafting aspect is somewhat interesting, but unless it's rewarding, I'm not sure most people will care about it. .

Or you can view it from the perspective that they are popular because people still need items from them, beucase of the horrible Effort/Reward Ratio they have. If drop rates were higher in all 3, they would be less popular now, since everyone would have their little items. SE knows how to make a game last long, make it so it takes forever to accomplish your goals...

While I agree the effort/reward ratio should be better, most people I played with enjoy salvage as an event, even without the reward. The whole thing is challenging, while not being ridiculously cheap like AV or PW. I personally enjoyed seeing our group progress from pretty bad (18 ppl run on release) to super efficient full clear with 6 people months later.

Dynamis was similar, except that it get somewhat boring after 6 years.

[Sudox]

Nandi - Eastern Altepa

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7...ndievolith.png

[Chrian]

that has to be shopped.

[Suljin]

so it takes what, a min off 2hr? or what?

[urat]

nm worm in N Gustaberg: vs birds MAcc + 4 [water, full triangle, 4]

Stick it on a nereid ring

[SargentRemora]

Killed Lizardtrap, got "Vs. beasts: Magic evasion +5"... go Byakko augment? (Dark, Filled Triangle, 4)

Edit: Wake Warder Wanda: Wild Card ability delay -1 (Light, Circle with Circle, 3)

[Darte]

I swear some of these things are so specific to the point it makes you think whether they have even looked at their own macro system to see if people would find this worthwhile.

[Suljin]

someone should make a list of all possible etched equipment . . . . go!

[Pergo]

i just got

Water Enfeebling Magic: Magic Acc+3

from Yuhtunga Hunt #4.

Keeping this in storage for when they add Poison 3, a highly inaccurate, yet potent dot. o_o

[Lp57]

Slippery Sucker, Quf Hunt #2: Vs Birds: Def+8
Don't remember the element. But searching my gear I couldn't find anything that i could etch. It's looking like only totally blank weapons can be etched.

[Malacite]

Goblin Wolfman? As in the Parade Gorget NM?

WTF? So regular NMs can be hunted now for evolith if you click the book?

[jupeeh]

Temple of Uggalepih
Sacrificial Goblet: vs. undead: Mag. Acc.+5, water,triangle,5
Crimson-toothed Pawberry: Blue Magic Fire: "Mag.Atk.Bns."+2, ice, triangle, 2

[miokomioko]

Goblin Wolfman? As in the Parade Gorget NM?

WTF? So regular NMs can be hunted now for evolith if you click the book?

Reading is a wonderful thing.

[Setsuryu]

Poisonhand Gnadgad, cost 35 scylds to accept it.

Evolith: Marksmanship weaponskill: Ranged attack +1. >.>a

[dantaro]

Laelaps, 75 points

Fire Magic: Magic Crit Hit Rate +5

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ne/evolith.png