Hunts and Evolith Discussion

[Nishida]

Blue Magic Fire: "Mag.Atk.Bns."+2, ice, triangle, 2

This would be a nice Heat Breath / Firespit Evolith =o

[Izzitda]

http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/b...lf/Evolith.png

This one might actually be worth using. Might. Might.

(Sea Serpent Grotto, Nasan (hunt #3). There's a hunt book in Norg, identical to Kazham from what I've seen..)

[Alvinho]

This would be a nice Heat Breath / Firespit Evolith =o

Except MAB doesn't affect breath spells.

[Mazmaz]

This one might actually be worth using. Might. Might.

(Sea Serpent Grotto, Nasan (hunt #3). There's a hunt book in Norg, identical to Kazham from what I've seen..)

lol there it is

[miokomioko]

Vs. Beasts: Ranged Attack +7
<http://wiki.bluegartr.com/images/e/ee/Fire-Icon.gif▲4>

not too horrible, I guess...?

[Sylvrdragon]

I propose that we make Evolith Symbol smilies (From the in-game pictures of the Symbols) for convenience in posting our finds. It is inevitable that people will ask what shape the Evolith/slot is and it would be nice to have a way to respond without having to describe shit. After all, not everyone posts them in pic form.

These are the forms of all the ones I could find in my Character map

▲: Full Triangle
●: Full Circle
■: Full Square
◎: Double Circle
▽: Inverted Open Triangle
▼: Inverted Full Triangle
◆: Full Diamond
◇: Open Diamond
○: Open Circle
△: Open Triangle
□: Open Square

Not sure how many of these are actually going to be used. Couldn't find the "X Button" X, but that's one that I doubt we'll need. In any case, I think these characters look like shit copied straight from the Character map, so I think we'd be better off with Smiley versions of them.

Edit: Here's an in-game pic

http://www.imagebeast.net/images/2fz...s8zzxzfgvd.jpg

[Madalynn]

Got this from Ghillie Dhu (Hunt #2, Konschtat Highlands).

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3499/evolith.jpg

[Gtype954]

People are forgetting that these evolith augments are shitt as fuck. -1 min off your 2 hour... like thats gonna make a difference.

Another thing to remember, is that you get vs Birds: acc +10.. and you cannot put it on your hagun or tomoe, but instead can put it on a blank weapon like windslicer, you still won't outparse a hagun no matter what the damn evolith stats are.

Point is, as of now, you can only attach evolith to shitty weapons and armor only... and on top of that, the evolith themselves are shitty too.

Until I see shit like

Vs Birds: Piercing damage.
Hundred fists: Crit hit 5%
Mighty Strikes: Crit hit damage 5%
Vs Luminions: Magic defense bonus 20%
vs Beasts: defense +50
Ice magic: Potency 5%
Benediction: enmity -20
Chainspell: Conserve MP +20.

Until I see stuff that can actually be useful and not dumb shit like Vs Elementals Melee acc +7 >_>
then this system is a huge waste of time for the million requirements you need just to get 1 min shaved off your 2 hour JA.

[Ropeydonkey]

Depends really, until we have a difinitive list of what can be etched its hard to say - assuming you can etch any half decent gear, you could stack 3 slots of vs. evoliths and have a gear that pwns versus one mob type.

Potential example.
E.g. Black Cuisses +1

vs Birds Atk + 10
Vs Birds Acc +7
vs Birds WS Acc+5

(or whatever) can only be better than standard Black Cuisses +1 (assuming you never plan on selling).

As long as SOME of my gear is etchable im happy

Ooo and remember until people got Haguns with +STR and Weskits with +5 INT, FoV was a total waste of time, at least it ended up good (if you got lucky).

AND update mentioned that the decent (perhaps not even yet attainable Evoliths) would be only for high level new gears - so lets consider that these Evoliths are perhaps meant for slotting mostly low level gear? In which case vs. X Eva+7 is pwn?

[Spira]

People are forgetting that these evolith augments are shitt as fuck. -1 min off your 2 hour... like thats gonna make a difference.

Another thing to remember, is that you get vs Birds: acc +10.. and you cannot put it on your hagun or tomoe, but instead can put it on a blank weapon like windslicer, you still won't outparse a hagun no matter what the damn evolith stats are.

Point is, as of now, you can only attach evolith to shitty weapons and armor only... and on top of that, the evolith themselves are shitty too.

Until I see shit like

Vs Birds: Piercing damage.
Hundred fists: Crit hit 5%
Mighty Strikes: Crit hit damage 5%
Vs Luminions: Magic defense bonus 20%
vs Beasts: defense +50
Ice magic: Potency 5%
Benediction: enmity -20
Chainspell: Conserve MP +20.

Until I see stuff that can actually be useful and not dumb shit like Vs Elementals Melee acc +7 >_>
then this system is a huge waste of time for the million requirements you need just to get 1 min shaved off your 2 hour JA.

lol all i see from reading this is..

"my vagina has so much sand! oh my god! if i get wet i'm going to start producing cement!"

...srsly.

the Evolith system has not even reached ONE DAY after its implementation. And you're pretty much dismissing it already.

We've only come to a point where people are only taking out lower level / lower tier NMs. Until we can work out a definitive list of what IS available, we don't really know what to expect.. and seriously, nobody expects the good stuff to appear so early.

Even so, we've seen some rather nice pieces like the Fire magic: magic critical + one, which can be pretty useful say if you can etch ele staves or maybe ele grips or something. If not, then it'd still make for some pretty nice powered up equipment at lower levels or for situational use.. And if theres a fire, there should be a thunder out there too..

You're going to just be disappointed if you expect stuff that you don't see. I believe it'll be the things we see and don't expect that will surprise us.

I'm looking out for the 60+ scyld requirements NMs and the evoliths they 'drop'

[pchan]

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Even so, we've seen some rather nice pieces like the Fire magic: magic critical + one, which can be pretty useful

No. It's fire .. nobody uses fire. Synergy is phail and can be parked together with pokemon, chobo race, chocobo breeding, MMM ; the augment system is much better, says it all considering the incredible amount of luck it implies. Oh and yeah we didn't see all the potential augments. The only possible good thing are the weapons coming from Fomors, but it's a weapon, and we all know how reluctant SE is to give gear better than AH (look at Fey weapons), so you will end up with good weapon for hundred fists or mighty strike ... awesome ? nope ; bullshit. And why would my monk or pup want to equip a staff with H2H weapon skill : attq+11, I don't get it.

[Malacite]

Again, pre-emptive QQ'ing en-mass.


I agree, that for the most part the buffs are pure shit. This is not surprising in the least given SE's history of epic fail. Our devs however, are also known for the odd dose of epic god-damned win (see: Usukane) and so I would say wait until the next update to see what new stuff they add.

We still don't have any solid info on those Aern-looking weapons yet either, which are supposedly ...
" Specialized equipment: A new set of equipment especially suited for evolith enhancement has been introduced. Available only through certain synergy recipes, these will support high-powered evolith unusable with standard equipment. "


So yeah. This at least implies that there's some really good evolith as yet undiscovered. I'm curious if they added any of the "techniques" the NPCs are talking about though, like how smiths can use fewel more efficiently.

[miokomioko]

crap

Good lord, shut the hell up... forever.

[dantaro]

I think its funny that people are already mass QQing when so few of the mobs have been done. Has anyone else even posted a evolith from a 75+ point mob besides me? While Fire Magic Crit hit rate +5% isn't the best of things, it certainly isn't shit, and if it can happen for fire it can happen for thunder or ice too. Give it some time before you jump all over it for being stupid and pointless and let some of the 75-100 point evoliths get out first.

[Dazd]

People aren't QQ'ing they're being realistic. How many updates has SE done that promised some "cool" new system and it ended up being total shit? Pretty much every update that adds some new system to the game falls on it's face because SE doesn't know how the game works and they've proven it time and time again.

[ringthree]

This gear is horrible an not worth eveling another damn craft, doing 2 dumb quests, getting 6 ppl together, getting evolith from NMs, etching the damn slots on the armor, then messing with buttons to hope it does not explode and all of this for -1 or -2% in some weak JA.

Not to mention, you cannot etch evolith onto r/ex gear or even onto badass gear like HQ elemental staves or Teaodor ring, or snow/flame ring etc.
So you can etch it on crappy items or the ridiculous new ebon items which are expensive as hell to craft for crap stats. The evolith are even weaker and won't make that armor any better.

Angel skin, Behemoth Leather, Ampihere Leather, ingots, etc to craft these armors.

On a side note, if r/ex cannot be etched evolith, then what are the aern weapons for.

EDIT: Vs elementals: acc +7, yea cause elementals take alot of damage from melee damage SE.... I'm not bitching though, i'm just telling it how it is. Glad I won't be sucked into this time sink synergy. Nothing is a must have.

Yes, you have absolutely figured out the quality of the entire system within hours of it's release.

Seriously, shut the fuck up until we get some information on this thing. Jesus fucking whiners.

[Destinye]

People aren't QQ'ing they're being realistic. How many updates has SE done that promised some "cool" new system and it ended up being total shit? Pretty much every update that adds some new system to the game falls on it's face because SE doesn't know how the game works and they've proven it time and time again.

You mean every system they've implemented since 2003 that people bitched and moaned about even before actually fully exploring it? You know, how people QQ about there only being city Dynamis zones and its "too hard" and "has no drops so its a worthless system", being limited in Assaults because of limited tags? How Salvage required AP from staging points? How Augment "only gives negative stats and will never give good stats so therefore it's an utter failure of a system", how FoV is limited to once a vanadiel day so on and so forth.

Players love to QQ upon implementation of just about every system, it's not being realistic, it's being whiny before even a full day after implementation passes. I can guarantee you yourself haven't fully explored all of Synergy, let alone hit cap, now have you?

This is like the Augment QQ all over again, people deemed it an utter failure of a system, then people started getting good augments, and now people still use and abuse that system.

[Destinye]

I wonder about these "2hr ability delays -1" If its 1 second, 1 min, 1 hr.... could be interesting or phail.

I think it's a full minute off, it could probably go like the merits and down it to probably a max of 15 minutes off or something. Since so far it seems there's only delay -1 and 2's.

[NynJa]

People aren't QQ'ing they're being realistic. How many updates has SE done that promised some "cool" new system and it ended up being total shit? Pretty much every update that adds some new system to the game falls on it's face because SE doesn't know how the game works and they've proven it time and time again.

Most of the things that have potential to be good, have put out good results. There was probably hordes of shit luckfactor involved, but doesnt change anything. DMG+2 STR+2 haguns, INT+5 weskits, MAB+2 Stoles...all come from Augmenting system.

[Eanae]

I'd be more inclined to think this system has potential if a wider variety of equipment can be etched with these evoliths. If it's limited to just the gear added last patch/gear made available this patch, shit becomes twice as situational as any other situational gear in the game.