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  1. #21
    BEES OH GOD BEES
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    you gotta fucking try HARD to do 1.3k dps in full 245s. that's like less than autoattack dps

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    Welcome back, shadow priest <3

  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Correction View Post
    That definitely explains what's been going on then, all the last few weeks Horde have gotten exponentially 'better' at defending WG since they seem to have a wall of catas ready on every defensive battle start.
    This actually isn't possible. When you log out with rank after a Wintergrasp, and try to log into the next Wintergrasp, your rank is cleared, because you're not in que, nor in the battle. You can't have rank when you log back in. This used to be possible, but was fixed some time ago.

    What REALLY happens is that the game is designed to make it easier, and easier for the faction that keeps losing each time. Lowering the number of NPC or enemy player kills required to rank up, increasing the speed at which objectives are captured, increasing your tower HP and lowering the wall HP.

    Blizzard knows many realms exist with vastly skewed populations, and the system is designed to make sure both factions have WG at least some time.

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    So many swings and misses. Tonko's partly right, it is rigged so that the more you lose the more easily you get tenacity, I think. Fairly sure I read that from a blue when wotlk started.


    But what's actually causing what you guys are talking about is really damn simple.


    Wintergrasp is laggy. Keep this in mind.


    Whoever lost WG doesn't have a portal to get there. They just talk to the npc's. Also, there's people there for VoA etc. Altogether, the winning team from the last game starts out with a lot more people in the zone. Tenacity, meanwhile, takes a second to update, plus there's lag on top of that.


    So what happens? The team on offense comes in to 20 tenacity.

    With 20 tenacity, even 1 npc kill will jump everyone in the area to rank 2.



    Pretty simple, then, how it works: tenacity applies when battle starts. Defense has way more people in the zone at start, so offense gets tons of tenacity. Something dies in range of workshops (perhaps the npc's like 150 yards away, or perhaps a player that came out that direction) before the lag has cleared up and tenacity normalized, and bam, entire first raid of offensive side is max rank.



    Also, the "difference" is that right now there is no rank 3. You can build and pilot everything at rank 2, First Lieutenant.

  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khelek View Post
    Or you could've answered "Yes". Works too.
    Fuck that, to easy.

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    Server's are up, good look logging in, been staring at Arthas and the loading screen for about 5m now.

  7. #27
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    servers are up

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    I got right in >.>

  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendas View Post
    Server's are up, good look logging in, been staring at Arthas and the loading screen for about 5m now.
    I'm also stuck on the loading screen. Doesn't matter what server or what character either.

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    This new dungeon and raid seeking is confusing. How do you see others who are seeking for dungeons? I can see the window for other people seeking for raids (though it shows no one) but can't find the same for dungeons/heroics.

  11. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blarg View Post
    This new dungeon and raid seeking is confusing. How do you see others who are seeking for dungeons? I can see the window for other people seeking for raids (though it shows no one) but can't find the same for dungeons/heroics.
    The 5 man LFG tool puts groups together automatically now. Think of it like joining the queue for a BG, you can go in with a full/partial premade group, or just on your own. This system is supposed to be a bit smarter though, and will match you with similarly geared people(based on item level) in your battlegroup.

    And just to avoid any further confusion, only the 5 man LFG tool is cross server, the LFR tool is your server only.

    P.S.- also stuck on loading screen

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    Yay servers are broken. Exited game to update addons, now it's not possible to get back on. Stopped at full loading bar at first, now it's just stuck at connected

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khelek View Post
    Yay servers are broken. Exited game to update addons, now it's not possible to get back on. Stopped at full loading bar at first, now it's just stuck at connected
    exactly the same situation, damn you addons!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khelek View Post
    Yay servers are broken. Exited game to update addons, now it's not possible to get back on. Stopped at full loading bar at first, now it's just stuck at connected
    Same. Oh well, gives me some time to catch up on reading. Hopefully they will be working normally in a few hours so I can run ICC with guild.

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    Same still. Even disabled all addons to no avail. Guess we're waiting for 3.3.1.

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    Teachin' people to click 'DE' instead of 'Greed' is going to be REAL fun :D

    edit: not everyone's waiting :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Correction View Post
    Teachin' people to click 'DE' instead of 'Greed' is going to be REAL fun :D

    edit: not everyone's waiting :D
    You don't need to teach people that. If you click DE or Greed it's the same priority. If you roll DE and get a 90 roll and someone else rolls Greed and gets an 85, the item will be DE'd and given to you.

  18. #38
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    I'm saying people got used to greeding, and it's the default button to press.

    Doesn't help that it's a weird color and off to the corner unlike the other two buttons.

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    new explosive trap damage, with glyph, that's the DoT damage, not intial.

    it seems to tick 2x/3sec often, dunno if bug or not

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    Halls of Reflection Heroic is pretty brutal, incoming tsunami of undergeared 80s qqing about it lol

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