Guild Wars 2: Pre-Release Discussion

[vrumpt]

I played a PvE ranger during closed beta and it was really useless there. happy if it got better but at least in WvWvW, they still looked useless. granted, I'm not sure how a pet could become useful in there but the rangers I've seen didn't bother raising them until everyone moved on.

The biggest thing with ranger that I don't think everybody picked up on is that pets don't stay dead when you swap them out. Its an intended mechanic to swap out for your other pet when it dies so that you always have an alive pet. Reason i know this is because the only reason I knew pets revived when they swapped out was because a tutorial popped up and told me after my pet died for the first time with an alternate ready to jump in. Once I started alternating pets when they died I didn't really have any further problems with ranger. I did only play til level 7 though and never jumped into WvW.

[Alderaan]

Right now guardians and rangers are the most overpowered classes so i expect them to be brought down a bit before release.

[ClarkSammich]

Right now guardians and rangers are the most overpowered classes so i expect them to be brought down a bit before release.

That's exactly what I was about to say. I think ranger is slightly more polarized than guardian though; it goes from being borderline useless turning matches into 4v5, to the most overpowered profession in the game with their spirit build.

[Zerocool]

For those that don't know the build being referenced

[Aristio]

How was engineer feeling during the BWE3? I didn't have a chance to play but was kind of disappointed with it in BWE2, it was my most looked forward to class prior to that. The turrets are clunky and stupid, and get focussed down very quickly. They have a horrible cooldown (which I get is to emphasise tactical placement but STILL) and picking them up provides hardly any benefit. In a game that emphasises constant movement they just felt like a bit of a shitty slot. Also, some of the kits felt fairly samey and pretty much were just a slightly different way of doing the same thing, it felt like there wasnt a huge amount of benefit of switching between them rather than blasting shit with my pistol/shield combo.

The mines seemed shitty and I disliked not having the option of an autoattack on any kits, and my deeps seemed quite a bit lower than playing other classes (although Im fairly sure they buffed this a bit, would be nice to know whether theyre in line with the rest now)

So if anyone has any insight on how it felt in BWE3 that'd be great! I know theyve dropped the minekit in favour of a single skill or something which sounds like an improvement.

Sometimes it felt clunky, other times I was beastly.

Take for example the Rocket Boots. Do damage, jump WAY back, break stun, avoid damage. However, use Rocket Boots in a tight corridor, I'm now on my ass with absolutely no distance between me or my target. Rocket Boots in general does not need to knock you down. Neither does Overcharged shot on the Rifle.

The Kits were actually pretty good and provided decent utility/damage. The Grenade Satchel saw a pretty good boost with each attack now throwing a default of 2 grenades each and it's range being boosted to 1200. (1500 with Grandmaster traits and you get to throw 3 grenades) Freezing Grenade stacked Chill in duration, so if all three hit your target, you would see a 66% runspeed/cooldown decrease for around 12 seconds. The Flamethrower received a bit of a nerf with Backdraft no longer being a pull. The damage was increased significantly and it was a good weapon for damage/soaking damage if traited properly. The new Proximity Mine was ok. It wasn't my favorite as the animation for it to activate after you throw it was slower than I liked. With a 12-15 second recast timer, it's not bad for a control utility, though, only if you can get your opponent to run over it.

Rifle was by far my new favorite weapon though. Traited/geared properly, I saw 1.8k crits on it's autoattack(Not counting the added debuffs such as blind/bleed/burn), 5k Jump Shots, and 4k Blunderbusses.

Overall, Engineer seemed really solid with only a few blemishes here and there. Mostly coming from self-knockdowns, no autoattacks on Flamethrower/Tool Kit/Elixir Gun, and the annoying ground target abilities that have long animations.

[Alderaan]

For those that don't know the build being referenced

It's the class/spec i hate going up against the most since thief condition removal is terrible.

[Rhyis.]

Necros corruption build is a hard counter to that ranger build. Soak up the conditions of your own team onto yourself, spew all those conditions back at a dude, turn all those enemy boons into conditions, and then spread those millions of conditions aoe style. Plague Signet>Corrupt Boon>Epidemic. Necro laughs all the way to bank.

[Takiwaki]

official website got a nice upgrade

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/

[Dragir]

It goes from being borderline useless, turning matches into 4v5, to the most overpowered profession in the game with their {build du jour} build.

This was and still is true of all professions in Guild Wars 1/2 as determined by whether the character is being played by a great player or a... not-so-great player.



Gotta skip to 24 minutes in and watch for awhile to get the point. Worth listening to. td;dl?

...and I don't necessarily care for the new official web site design. lol

[Takiwaki]

4hr stress test tomorrow, ill be at work =/

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...6714208&type=1

[Zerocool]

From the way it sounds, probably won't be a lot of quality play time anyways.

[niwaar]

^Will sill be nice to get back in. I can actually see them doing a second or third stress test before launch as they are really trying to balance the WvW population limits for launch.

[Takiwaki]

I would love to jump in just to see the profession changes that have been made, but alas RL strikes again. There was a gigantic patch recently.

[Rhyis.]

Yeah I just updated my client. Took a while.

[Drafted]

Definitely gonna hop on and test my new thief build. Haven't spent much time utilizing combos.

[Ambrosia]

4hr stress test tomorrow, ill be at work =/

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...6714208&type=1

This is awesome! I can finally finish my characters (from the character creator). I didn't get a chance to do it since I was having so much fun with the Sylvari, that I simply forgot to.





August 2nd from 3:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. EDT. Marked.

[GoggleHead]

How on earth do they expect to stress test the servers when everyone is at work and can't log in?

[Arelian]

EU.

[Rhyis.]

There's other parts of the world outside of 'merica.

[Cat]

How on earth do they expect to stress test the servers when everyone is at work and can't log in?

I think they try to run stress events at a time when they, the devs, are at work