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  1. #4101
    Melee Summoner
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    Quote Originally Posted by tol View Post
    Yeah, the new sPvP map was in. It was pretty fun, sharks will attack the team that ISNT controlling the underwater ruins which can make it very easy to solo defend for a smart player and conversely, very difficult to take from someone. Overall, It was fun & the map looked gorgeous. Underwater PVP, for me, is very very disorienting I'm going to need a while to get used to it.
    Ha, I accidentally stumbled in to this last night. First time doing sPvP, was just exploring the maps mainly. I agree, underwater combat was different, but fun. The engineer net was kinda cool. Puts out a huge underwater net that people cant cross.

    I also wondered why the shark kept attacking me, I assumed I was just the first one to attack it or something. Good to know.

  2. #4102
    wotg torrent kitty :3
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    need only one BG guild since you can invite anyone from any server. until the guesting feature works, we'll be separated by the server decision but once that's available, you can play with whoever you want, wherever you want (except WvWvW). I have a couple of friends playing on Seafarer's Rest so I'll either start there or on Elona's Reach.

  3. #4103
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    Wait, you can pick your server right? What do you mean by 'separated by the server decision' D:

  4. #4104
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    Guesting on other servers won't be enabled until they probably turn off free server xfers, in order to determine server balance. So I'd guess 1-2 weeks

  5. #4105
    wotg torrent kitty :3
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    what katlan said and yes, you can pick your server but for many reasons, we won't all pick the same. judging from the discussion about the BG guild, it will be more a social guild. I don't see how a hardcore guild is even needed in this game outside of sPvP. the game mechanics go hand-in-hand with having multiple guilds and play with whoever you want for fun, not because you have to be 18 guys to clear content x.

  6. #4106
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    Would be neat to be able to get people together to do an instance on occasion, though.

  7. #4107
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    Quote Originally Posted by vadre View Post
    Would be neat to be able to get people together to do an instance on occasion, though.
    you can guest on any server and do all PvE and BG (sPvP) content w/ them.... the only thing you can't do w/ somebody on another server is WvWvW. Guilds and friend lists are cross realm so you can chat w/ anybody from any server at anytime. The only handicap will be that you won't be able to "guest" on another server for prolly 1-2 weeks after release (again, pure guess... but it would make sense for them to not allow "guesting" on another server until free xfers are removed)... but you will still be able to chat and do everything else w/ppl from other servers

  8. #4108
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    although you only get the bonus boons from your main guild, I see the whole guild system more like a group chat feature right now. at first, I thought the whole multi guild handling is kinda strange (coming from years of FFXI) but it's actually awesome. imagine, someone in BG wants to do dungeon x and needs 4 guys but only you are up for it. now instead of endless (server restricted) shouting, you can simply ask in your other guilds and don't have to worry at all about any kind of dkp/loot system/ninja lotting etc. even better, they can be on any server and join the instance.

  9. #4109
    I'd Rather Be in Zi'Tah
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    Quote Originally Posted by vrumpt View Post
    Apparently the new sPvP map was included this test, Raid on the Capricorn; the pirate ship one with underwater combat. One of the capture points is actually underwater, and if you control it sharks attack the opposing team. There are also cannons on the ship that can reach the land capture points.

    I didn't play it, this is all word of mouth, so if somebody played it feel free to correct me.
    Couple of things about Raid on Capricorn...
    1) There is one Cannon. It is in the middle of the area and is ammunition limited. (I always was wondering about the cannon's in the Mists training area.) You get 5 shots, then you have to run down the ramp and onto the pirate ship in the middle to get more cannonballs. The Cannon can reach anywhere on land. It is quite powerful and can easily clear an entire node with 5 well placed shots.

    2) BEFORE you enter an sPvP queue you need to head down to the water training area in order to set up your underwater utility bar.
    Not all utility skills and elites can be used underwater. There is nothing good about swimming down and noticing your healing kit, bomb kit, and supply drop do not work under the waves. Underwater abilities can NOT be set while on land. You must set these up underwater and since you can only set up abilities while in your team's respawn area, you can not set these anywhere but in the Mists.

    Quote Originally Posted by vadre View Post
    I'd be interested in this too, right now the couple of friends I have playing are heading to Pikey Square so that's where I'll be. We should make a BG guild (theyre cross server right?) for the EU in any case.
    As the Highlander said ... There can be only one. Meaning every player and guild name is unique across all servers and regions. There will be one BG guild, so please let one of the moderators create it. (Mods figure out who is going to do that.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Aevis View Post
    although you only get the bonus boons from your main guild, I see the whole guild system more like a group chat feature right now. at first, I thought the whole multi guild handling is kinda strange (coming from years of FFXI) but it's actually awesome. imagine, someone in BG wants to do dungeon x and needs 4 guys but only you are up for it. now instead of endless (server restricted) shouting, you can simply ask in your other guilds and don't have to worry at all about any kind of dkp/loot system/ninja lotting etc. even better, they can be on any server and join the instance.
    This is not exactly true. You only gain the bonus boons from the guild you are currently representing. You swap guilds and gain whatever boons they currently have active by representing that guild. However, it appears that you may only receive guild boons if you are on the guildmaster's home server. Although I have a feeling that it may not be that cut and dry. Guilds have server specific influence pools so in theory you could have a cross server guild with boons on every server it resides on, depending on how active the members of each individual server are.

    Guesting will not be available at launch but they have promised it to become available "soon" after. Like Kat said its probably due to them wanting to balance server pops before turning it on, but also the UI to guest was extremely limited/clunky when it was turned on in previous BWE's and they need to work on it before implementing it.

  10. #4110
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    can an engi deal good dmg or it's just a support that give boons, cc, etc

  11. #4111
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    Quote Originally Posted by supercoco View Post
    can an engi deal good dmg or it's just a support that give boons, cc, etc
    They deal ridiculous condition damage. Not sure about straight physical damage though.

  12. #4112
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    Did the pirate jumping puzzle/maze of death yesterday in Lions Arch. Very fun. Was amazed they had so much interaction for just a jumping puzzle.

  13. #4113
    I'm almost as bad as Mazmaz
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    Yeah it's really awesome.

  14. #4114
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    Quote Originally Posted by supercoco View Post
    can an engi deal good dmg or it's just a support that give boons, cc, etc
    They are very versatile and can fill a number of roles, including both condition damage and direct damage. Rifle does a lot of damage and so does the tool kit (but it's melee). Depending on how you spec, you can deal a lot of burst damage in short amount of time. I do feel that it takes a lot more to pull off though, compared to classes like easymode Warriors.

  15. #4115
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    Anyone have a link to a good impression video for elementalist / ranger / engineer?

  16. #4116
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    I will be honest, most "first impression" class videos are pretty much either a year old or at least from April. Lots of things have changed profession-wise since BWE1. but Haasth has done the few good ones I have seen. I'll toss in a gameplay video or two so you can see builds and stuff. Definitely not the only builds. I personally never played that engineer build, but I do love the Scepter/dagger and dagger/dagger elementalist gameplay in sPvP.

    Engineer:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62X08lzKDW0
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajYmd...mbedded#at=764

    Elementalist:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb0wo...-shows&list=SL
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VzWF...layer_embedded

    Ranger:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5iQS...-shows&list=SL

  17. #4117
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    ZOMG! Stress Test!

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    Quote Originally Posted by niwaar View Post
    ZOMG! Stress Test!
    RIGHT NOW! 1 HOUR POWER HOUR

  19. #4119
    29 in magical dog years
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    did you just rhyme hour with hour

    lol, anyway, made an asura in the stress test, beginner area looks pretty nice, but I did play it with a new monitor. I liked it much better than any other starter area.

  20. #4120
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    heh, all areas were unlocked so you could have explored the higher level zones for the first time ever. I missed the entire thing =/

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