Superearths orbit nearby stars...

[Max™]

If it makes you feel better, scientists this smart probably can't find their keys either.

Hell, they can't even agree what keys are made of, and whether they can be safely said to exist!


Oh, btw, we won't find alien signals I think... once you start broadcasting your existence, you wake up Cthulhu, and he comes to psychically rape your planet til he tires of making his victims re-live simulated versions of their possible deaths.

[Mizango]

As Absolutely Virtue said, although SETI wont find alien TV shows, they may find deliberate signals. I'm not too sure how this works, but one of the guys I work with is REALLY into astronomy and says that deliberate signals could make it much further because they'd be much more powerful, and sent in a way so that they make it further.

Absolutely, AV hit it right on the head. Anytime SETI enters the equation then things tend to get interesting. Speaking of SETI I had the pleasure of hearing and meeting Seth Shostak of SETI speak in person when I was at USC, dude is mad cool.

It is interesting hearing him doubt that Aliens visit Earth and our toxic oxygen cloud all while searching for signals. He pwned this one poor woman who got upset that he had the audacity to say that aliens kidnapping people and flying umpteen trillion light years to carve patterns in corn fields and leave was high unlikely.

Good times, good times.

[BadKarma]

I want an Orion Sex Slave.


And I also, I can't even begin to care until interplanetary travel is possible, never mind intergalactic.

[Mizango]

Oh, btw, we won't find alien signals I think... once you start broadcasting your existence, you wake up Cthulhu, and he comes to psychically rape your planet til he tires of making his victims re-live simulated versions of their possible deaths.

You see! This is what Hawking warned us about when we launched Voyager with our home coordinates! WERE DOOMED!

[Mizango]

I can't even begin to care until interplanetary travel is possible, never mind intergalactic.

Your loss.

[Chun Liroy]

You see! This is what Hawking warned us about when we launched Voyager with our home coordinates! WERE DOOMED!

Where's this thing supposed to be projectedly at atm?

[Xno Kappa]

It's projected to reach heliopause in 2015. It's in heliosheath at the moment.

[Mizango]

It's projected to reach heliopause in 2015. It's in heliosheath at the moment.

^

Here is a picture I posted here on BG about a 2 ago in regards to the Voyager spacecraft and its location. We also know because of this that the Universe is completely asymmetrical or "bent" in its shape. Voyager 1 and 2 were launched a few weeks apart and launched in completely separate directions, yet Voyager 2 reached the the termination shock region of space 3 years sooner and being 15 billion miles apart.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...Squashed-2.jpg

On Voyager is mounted a golden plate with Earth history, our location as well as pictures of humans and other forms of fauna and flora that are native to Earth. There are actually voice recorded greetings from every language on Earth on this golden plate in hopes that someone will find it. Stephen Hawking did not like this idea much to say the least when Voyager was launched back in 77ish and still hates the idea.

[Jaybar]

Miz's 2nd link absolutely astounds me. Technology that can detect a dip in light emission from a faraway star due to a planet crossing in front of it is incredible. I love this stuff. It's stuff like this that makes me want to live to 100+, just to see how far we actually get.

[Mizango]

Miz's 2nd link absolutely astounds me. Technology that can detect a dip in light emission from a faraway star due to a planet crossing in front of it is incredible. I love this stuff. It's stuff like this that makes me want to live to 100+, just to see how far we actually get.

You and I both QQ I do this everyday and every single day I go to bed astounded, it really is mind blowing.

[Luckyseven]

me like stars :O

[Tagus]

lol

Let's play a game...

"You are all vehemently suspect of heresy. I demand that you recant, or be hereby condemned to spend the rest of your lives under house arrest."

Who am I?

[Mizango]

lol

Let's play a game...

"You are all vehemently suspect of heresy. I demand that you recant, or be hereby condemned to spend the rest of your lives under house arrest."

Who am I?

Certainly not the church lol

[Mizango]

Oh wait...

[Mizango]

"You silly scientists, believing is a Heliocentric universe lol. Everyone know the Sun and everything revolves around us, God told us so! Off with your head!"

Poor Galileo

[Tagus]

hehe seriously... god only knows how long the church held us back.

pun intended

[Jaybar]

"You silly scientists, believing is a Heliocentric universe lol. Everyone know the Sun and everything revolves around us, God told us so! Off with your head!"

Poor Galileo

Step up. Prove it with Scripture, son.

[Mizango]

Step up. Prove it with Scripture, son.

Nah dawg.

[Mizango]

House arrest and such.

[Max™]

We also know because of this that the Universe is completely asymmetrical or "bent" in its shape.

I could have told you that.


Draw a 4 D cone (go ahead, try, I fucking DARE you), now if you remember conical sections from high school geometry, you know that the cut perpendicular to the axis is a sphere.

Indeed, when you look around you, you see what appears to be a series of 3-spheres. They seem to be oriented along a temporal axis, and you can now see how time is perpendicular to space, just as (x,y,z) are perpendicular to each other.

Here's where it gets tricky though, what you see around you isn't a simple 3-sphere, because ANY axis you choose from the origin to the plane along the 4-cone will appear to generate a perpendicular 3-sphere cut.

Yet there should be a unique cut, shouldn't there?

How to get around this? We aren't seeing 3-spheres, they are actually closed 3-balls (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong), and they wrap around themselves like the screen in Asteroids does:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZfsnA7dAHI

The distance from our location to the actual "edges" of the 4-cone influences how severely curved our local 3-space appears, and should nicely account for the voyager deflection.