Beta applications are now up!

[Xanthe]

Is it possible to get a Square-Enix ID for my current PlayOnline account without getting a security token?

Yes.

[Rulke]

For the people worried about system specs, it is entirely possible they will want people with varying levels of hardware to get an idea of how it will run.

When I beta tested FFXI, my computer could literally just barely run the game. I think I had to actually steal my brother's video card just to do it. I second this above statement. Crappy or super computer, the wider range the better for SE.

[DERFTHEGALKA]

When I beta tested FFXI, my computer could literally just barely run the game. I think I had to actually steal my brother's video card just to do it. I second this above statement. Crappy or super computer, the wider range the better for SE.

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[lotmorning]

Might be a stupid question, but is my Square Enix ID the same as my POL ID? I tried using my POL ID and PW but says not work

[DERFTHEGALKA]

Might be a stupid question, but is my Square Enix ID the same as my POL ID? I tried using my POL ID and PW but says not work

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[Vigilia]

No, POL ID is ABCD1234 or something, 4 random letters and 4 random numbers. Square Enix ID is what you create on the website and it can be pretty much whatever you like.

[lotmorning]

Ok just wanted to make sure that POL ID and SE ID wasn't the same thing before I went and created a SE ID

[Maguspk]

Why would they accept low end machines for a beta? You don't need to organize a beta test to determine which machines are able to run your software, you organize a beta test to test the software running on machines that can run it to begin with.

[McGoonagle]

Why would they accept low end machines for a beta? You don't need to organize a beta test to determine which machines are able to run your software, you organize a beta test to test the software running on machines that can run it to begin with.

Second-guessing SE is a mugs game. Might as well try the airship fight with an onion sword and scroll of Dia.

[Destinye]

Why would they accept low end machines for a beta? You don't need to organize a beta test to determine which machines are able to run your software, you organize a beta test to test the software running on machines that can run it to begin with.

Tanaka stated he wanted everyone to be able to play it, and not everyone is going to build a top of the line PC, especially when console gaming is a lot cheaper for most people..since PC gaming isn't just for those who decided to get a 89 Core, 8.92GHZ, 99GB Ram, GeForce Virtual Reality 8900 GPU PC >.>

And the FFXI beta test was to test that the version actually worked in-game wise and hardware requirement wise, because back in 2003-2004 a lot of people used onboard graphics chipsets because good GPUs cost a fair bit back then, so lots of people couldn't run it because they didn't have a proper GPU and by time the retail PC version hit, it was obvious that the even the recommended requirements were fairly "normal" for most, like most people these days will at minimum have at least a Dual Core, or still a Pent 4 3.x Single Core PC.

So the beta test is to see the general range of PCs people use, because if you purposely alienate players you don't make as much money as you could compared to if you let everyone be able to play which is why they make it possible to scale various options in PC games, for low-high end users and in order to do that they need to gauge what kind of setups people have.

This isn't Crysis where you need (insert powerful PC) just to run it near full settings let alone at full settings that most people generally won't have.

[Maguspk]

Nah, you don't run a beta test to test if someone can run something, that's what minimum and maximum specs are for. More than likely they will pick the machines they know can run the software, not machines they wonder 'if'. Nobody is saying your machine can't run it, but they aren't going to waste their time inviting someone to a beta who could potentially have issues running the software. Even if you argue this could be the case, the data would be meaningless to them.

Consider the following scenario:

User A has a good PC which they know will run the game.
User B has a bad PC they are unsure will run the game.
User C has a PC which can run the game.

All three users are invited to the 'beta test'.

User A plays.
User B cannot play, he does not participate because his machine cannot handle it.
User C does not play, he does not participate because he chooses not to, despite being invited and depite his machine being capable.

In both the User B and User C cases the information they gather is that User B and User C both failed to play the beta, their corresponding system specs are irrelevant because the end result is the same. It should be obvious they don't run beta tests to test machines, they get your specs so they can determine if inviting you would be a potential waste or not.

[Mizango]

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DAM RITE

[ringthree]

And I bet the ones who had no interest in it will get a beta key too.

This is a mortal lock.

[ringthree]

Nah, you don't run a beta test to test if someone can run something, that's what minimum and maximum specs are for. More than likely they will pick the machines they know can run the software, not machines they wonder 'if'. Nobody is saying your machine can't run it, but they aren't going to waste their time inviting someone to a beta who could potentially have issues running the software. Even if you argue this could be the case, the data would be meaningless to them.

Consider the following scenario:

User A has a good PC which they know will run the game.
User B has a bad PC they are unsure will run the game.
User C has a PC which can run the game.

All three users are invited to the 'beta test'.

User A plays.
User B cannot play, he does not participate because his machine cannot handle it.
User C does not play, he does not participate because he chooses not to, despite being invited and depite his machine being capable.

In both the User B and User C cases the information they gather is that User B and User C both failed to play the beta, their corresponding system specs are irrelevant because the end result is the same. It should be obvious they don't run beta tests to test machines, they get your specs so they can determine if inviting you would be a potential waste or not.

I don't really agree with your assessment, especially for early beta tests. In general, most developers do want to find out how well different machines, different video cards and different combinations will run the game. Of course they probably won't invite people they know will not be able to play the game at all, but you would be surprised what can and can not run the game. For example, I highly doubt that a dual-core is absolutely required to run the game if you have decent components and a lot of memory. And I bet that is the kind of information they really want to know about.

I would be interested in knowing the effect that this kind of game has on the overall retail market for computers. It is almost definitely going to be more than just a blip. I am even more interested in the effect that Blizzard's new MMO is going to have on the market. I bet computer companies love the thought of games that require wholesale hardware upgrades. They were probably drooling when the Crysis specs came out. LOL

[Uzor]

Nah, you don't run a beta test to test if someone can run something, that's what minimum and maximum specs are for. More than likely they will pick the machines they know can run the software, not machines they wonder 'if'. Nobody is saying your machine can't run it, but they aren't going to waste their time inviting someone to a beta who could potentially have issues running the software. Even if you argue this could be the case, the data would be meaningless to them.

Consider the following scenario:

User A has a good PC which they know will run the game.
User B has a bad PC they are unsure will run the game.
User C has a PC which can run the game.

All three users are invited to the 'beta test'.

User A plays.
User B cannot play, he does not participate because his machine cannot handle it.
User C does not play, he does not participate because he chooses not to, despite being invited and depite his machine being capable.

In both the User B and User C cases the information they gather is that User B and User C both failed to play the beta, their corresponding system specs are irrelevant because the end result is the same. It should be obvious they don't run beta tests to test machines, they get your specs so they can determine if inviting you would be a potential waste or not.

They've picked people with absolute minimum, or below what they theorize is the minimum, where the only reason is "Wonder if he can run it".

With "they've" I mean the gaming industry, not SE.

[fishstix]

I played throughout the Aion beta testing, except it was more of a promotional preview since it was out in korea for a year+. If you ran the game on the minimum system requirements posted, you'd get only like 5fps where a decent computer (3ghz c2d, gtx260) would get 100fps. The recommended specs the NCsoft posted were also pretty crappy.

There's going to be idiots that buy the game without realizing that their computer sucks and can't play it well anyways. They'll then complain that they shouldn't have to buy hundreds in computer upgrades "just for a game"
lulz.

[Katlan]

Nah, you don't run a beta test to test if someone can run something, that's what minimum and maximum specs are for. More than likely they will pick the machines they know can run the software, not machines they wonder 'if'. Nobody is saying your machine can't run it, but they aren't going to waste their time inviting someone to a beta who could potentially have issues running the software. Even if you argue this could be the case, the data would be meaningless to them.

Even so... you know how many ppl lied on the app form to increase their chances? I'm sure they know not all the data ppl are filling out will be accurate, so they aren't just going to pick 100% of the top end machines... they might not pick many low end rigs, but I bet they will pick from a range of machines and then focus on on middle/upper end app forms. I know they can actually see your system spec's when your running the game since beta tests run client side programs, but I doubt at that point they are going to be like "you lied, your banned from beta."

I know a lot of ppl have good rig's so no point to lie (like myself), but honestly how many ppl said they would devote 72hrs+ a week to beta testing? loool like seriously?

[Korietsu]

Hey, I signed up with my MBP. Going to run it in boot camp and see if I can get it to run in a VM. Hopefully I get a pot shot at the beta.

[Seanr]

I put that i had a shitty computer.... they know the game is gonna run good already on uber computers. They wanna know how its gonna run on everything

[neue]

Signed up my account with my info, and my sub's account with my fiancee's info.
Good luck to the double-fingers-crossed-staring-at-your-inbox nerds like me!