FFVII Remake Green-Lit by SE?

[Yuri-G]

I would love a LoD remake if they fixed the horrible dialogue. Interesting story, good graphics for its time, great gameplay, all marred by dialogue a retarded third-grader could have written. Hell, I'll fix it myself, just give me a copy of the script and about two months.

[Ksandra]

I loved X-2 and aint afraid to admit it, was well worth 100%ing to get the bonus endings and too see everything that was happening that you didn't see in X, oh and ya, the battle system was aces.

completely agree with this statement. people flip because it was an all-girl cast, and the story wasn't as deep and dramatic as the other FFs, but I think the battle system was my favorite out of every ff, and even if it was a lighthearted story it was still a good lighthearted story, so I never understood people's beef with it.

[Corrderio]

Maybe if Aerith didn't die it wouldn't have spiraled into this today =o

Doubt it, there'd still be a ton of Cloud/Sephiroth fanboys around.

FFIX still doesn't need a remake, the only thing wrong with that game was the final boss..since it was pretty much:

"Sup, I'm the last boss of the game, there was no mention of me throughout the entire game, but because SE wanted to throw Grand Cross into this game somehow..HERE I AM BITCHES."

It's funny you mention this, since I was talking to somebody about Necron on KI a few months back. This was Varizen's conclusion:

Close enough Cordy. They mention something several times as to wondering why the people broke the crystal, and it was to stop something they were afraid of. And at the end, when Kuja went back in time to destroy the crystal at the beginning of time, Necron says that Kuja's willingness to destroy everything and wipe out existence in it's entirety because he doesn't want to die alone was all the proof he needed to resurrect himself and kill all the living. That was the point of Necron. Necron was the essence of death. When Kuja uses Ultima at the end of his boss fight, he leaves the party on the edge of death, and while they teeter on the edge, they fight off Necron. The theme of FFXI is life and how all the characters had a different view on how life should be lived. And appropriately, the end of life is death, and Necron was the embodiment. I just replayed IX in January. So... I'm still pretty familiar with everything analyze and dissect the story if someone wants me to do it.

[Evensong]

Contrary to most replies, I personally would love to play an FFVII remake. The game not only defined SE but was revolutionary to those who had played, grown-up on and loved the earlier FF games. It would be lovely though, if there were an ending with the revival of Aeris, or even earlier, so that you could play with her again in the later parts of the game. And no, FFVII is not my favourite FF, as I enjoyed VIII and IX or even VI as much, but I would undeniably get the VII remake, as it would give an occasion to relive that thrill that had been rendered to me on my first experience of an "FF in 3D."

[TummieGaruda]

FFVII will always be the most remembered out of the series mainly because of its jump from 2D to 3D. The graphics left a very huge impression on a lot of players as well as the 3D environment. Because of this, some felt that FF7 set the bar too high due (How do you top going from 2D to 3D and having such a jump in graphics) and that subsequent titles didn't give them the same "Oh My God this is Awesome" feeling that 7 did. This created a lot of fanboys in the process and it's one of the things I disliked most about 7. Personally for me, the story was "ok" but the graphics were great for its time.

So why remake 7? It is probably one of the most popular and most recognized title in the FF universe. You can probably credit SE for that due to the prequel and sequel games tied to FF7 along with the movies.

As far as Xenogears, I think it was mentioned earlier that Xenosaga was supposed to be a 6 part series, but the sales of Episode 2 caused them to scrap the series and tie everything up with the 3rd. Someone once told me that the story was too confusing and that there were too many religious metaphors to keep up with lol.

[Kirin]

A new Chrono game, rebooting the Xeno series, and LoD sequel would be awesome three wishes.

I almost think at this point SE would have as much trouble with Monolith and Nintendo now with any reboot of the Xeno franchise as Monolith/Namco did with SE over Xenosaga. If anyone attempts to reboot that franchise, it should remain solely within Monoliths hands unless the 3 groups involved want to do a Kingdom Hearts esque idea and 3 way development.

I think SE is starting to feel some Chrono heat in not having a title in god knows forever. That compilation CD still has yet to see daylight, and they have a fair bit of the original staff back at SE now more than willing, even saying publically they want to work on one now, and given enough time I see that project coming to conception as soon as this Fabula Nova Crystallis stuff ends and these developers get some sort of short reprieve.

[Yuri-G]

A Xenogears remake with new graphics (my favorite game ever and I can still admit ther graphics looked like the wrong side of a donkey's ass) would be worth buying ten PS3s, fuck yes. Of course, they'd ruin it and make the characters all hyper-emo with spikey hairstyles... but if they could do it right, I'd be so down.

Of course, finishing off the Xenosaga series would be even better, but that runs into more issues than I can count, both with storyline (since they compressed the series) and licensing. I'm not holding my breath on that one.

I'm still waiting for Chrono Break though. Someday...

[TacoTaru]

That compilation CD still has yet to see daylight,

wat

I have not heard about any compilation CD concerning Chrono series. But seriously like a few others have said, Xenogears/Chrono series should really be remade/rebooted/worked on. Those two have so much potential, it's a shame they've stopped where they had. I say this knowing I never played Xenosaga 3 as two was so brutally painful I don't think I ever got through the first half of the game <_<

[Destinye]

Doubt it, there'd still be a ton of Cloud/Sephiroth fanboys around.


It's funny you mention this, since I was talking to somebody about Necron on KI a few months back. This was Varizen's conclusion:

I always figured it to be something like that, but at the same time it had that "just thrown in there" feeling also, especially since Necro's line was Win and everything will be spared and I'll always exist/return again, and fail and all existence is erased. Which is why it was clear he was an embodient, but the way it played out, just felt like it was thrown in there, since you normally have mentions of the final boss throughout the entire game, which at that point was Kuja.

[dejet]

Ugh. Let that game die already, not only did they make a ton of mediocre spin-offs and silly characters' cameo appearances in other games, now a remake too?

FFVII itself was decent (but doesn't even make it in my top 5 FFs), but every time I hear OWA it makes me almost vomit thanks to the fact that you can't help but be forced to hear it in at least half of SE games.

And I never understood the hate for X-2. Who cares about the light-hearted story (tip: you knew it was going to be far from dramatic the instant you bought it) when you have the combination of best ATB and best job systems ever seen in the series?

X-2 was to short The story was fine and ended the game as a hole just fine for me. Only thing is the run time on it if you aim for the story is way short. Not even talking about side quests the main story is just to short for my taste. When I play a RPG I like to run the main story line doing only a few side quests at first.

X-2 was fine as a game. Living up to FFX was hard to do as the game was epic. To me X-2 would of been better off set as a *add on* back then *add ons* where not around So take that as you may.

I am fine with FF7 remake as Like I said it was the 1st FF game I played. I played that game for so long, yes I was one of them "OH SHIT! Look at that sword" well maybe more "OHZX Youz the sword its hotz!" I forget what lingo I used at age 7...

Edit: I also was not a big fan of the hole girl gun thing, big ass jump. using balls, swords, polearms and what not to guns.

[Kirin]

wat

I have not heard about any compilation CD concerning Chrono series.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Chrono_Cross

In 2005, Mitsuda announced a new arranged album of Chrono Cross music was scheduled for release in July of that year.[12] It did not materialize, though at a Play! A Video Game Symphony concert in May 2006, he revealed it would be out "within the year" and would feature acoustic music.[13] Later in 2006, Mitsuda alleged that the album would actually be released in 2007.[14] Recently, Yasunori Mitsuda has posted a streaming sample of a track from the upcoming Chrono Cross arranged album.[15] Though no official release date has been announced, Mitsuda has more than once stated that the album is now planned to coincide with the 10th anniversary of the game's original release in 2009.[15] Mitsuda claims that the album is "nearly done", but that it may not be possible to release it before the year is out.

Its more a Chrono Cross arranged album than it is a compilation CD, but a lot of those medleys and songs cross over through both titles. Something tells me as this album drags its feet and as more Chrono team members return to SE as they have over the past year or two, we just might get something substantial relatively soon.

[ArchDizzle]

I hate this argument because there is so much wrong on both sides of the coin.

Am I happy/excited/hopeful for a remake? Hell yes.
(as long as they fix certain things and add additional relevant content)
Do I wish they would focus some love towards some Chrono/Xeno action? Hell yes.

I am not a fanboy of VII, I thought it was great but before I delve into my opinion I want to note it is not by far my favorite FF

1. X
2.VI
3.VII
4.IV
5.IX

So with that said, both sides have completely bias proponents for the wrong reasons. You have the VII Fanboys who fucking suck and make the game seem worse for just existing, and then you have the anti VII fanboys who are just as bad on the other side hating it usually for the prupose of hating on it and the fanboys.

I think to have an opinion on VII that matters you need to have the following qualifications (And by "that matters" I don't mean your opinion doesn't count or is wrong, just a more enlightened view of the series as a whole wether you hated/loved/or just meh VII)

FF VII can't have been your first FF or RPG in general (This is where most bullshit stems from)
You should have played the other available FF as well as other RPG's at or around the time of their releases and before FF VII, this imo is what puts the game in perspective. (If you were not old enough to have done that and you went back and played all the classics my hats off to you, but you're still not from that era)
You have to have completed the game and actually beat it, you know paid attention to details/story/characters and tried to accomplish some additional quests in the game, not speedrun or skipped all of the dialogue or even better never played it or only played it for a few hours.

If you grew up in our era and played previous FF games and other RPG incarnations you have the first hand knowledge of the progression of the genre. When VII came out it was far and beyond anything that came before it in a technical form, and in some other areas as well. There was obvious issues, localization/translation back then was spotty and boy did VII show that, plot holes here and there. But overall the gameplay/characters/story were top notch for that time, and that's what matters not what it does or doesn't do now.

I replayed the game when it came out on PSN, I sat down and wanted to have an unbiased play through without any prejudgment towards it, to see if maybe nostalgia clouded some of my memories, and after spending another 140hrs on it I can say IMO it was a really good game and I enjoyed it even now.

If you played it under those same conditions and disliked the game then I can understand it, but for the most part the loudest people on both sides of this argument are the most informed and have spent very little time with the game.


/Long Rant off Where is Mine ChronoBreak?

[Meian]

FF VII can't have been your first FF or RPG in general (This is where most bullshit stems from)

Maybe I am misunderstanding what you mean by this (if so then I apologize) but how is it impossible for FF7 to be the first one played for someone? As a child, most games I played were Mario/Megaman/shump games; Zelda was one of the closer RPG-ish games I played and due to being a child and unsure where I am suppose to go in it I was turned off until I was older (thus making me avoid most other rpgish games).

When 7 came out it seemed to be a big deal to everyone since most of my friends had a PS and I did not so I could not see how "great" it was. Later, I found out it was on PC so I gave it a try and found it pretty interesting and it helped me get into other FF and more RPGs in general (led me to play VIII which also came out for PC but sadly IX did not).
Regardless, as nice as the game was, it seemed a bit bland especially after I was venturing onto other RPGs and FFs. Granted I played FF7 when I was fairly young so I didn't really understand what the big deal in the storyline was besides some guy wants to kill everything until I played it a second time a few years later; but by then I had already played some other FFs and RPGs and enjoyed their story and characters more overall.

Not sure where you are getting the notion there are anti-FF7 people here. If they didn't "love" it then they are anti/haters of the game?

Again, I never hated the game and the whole benchmark being raised because of it was elluded to me since it was one of my first real RPG/FF experience. I just enjoyed others more "overall."

If I misinterpreted what you said then again I apologize.

[ArchDizzle]

Maybe I am misunderstanding what you mean by this (if so then I apologize) but how is it impossible for FF7 to be the first one played for someone? As a child, most games I played were Mario/Megaman/shump games; Zelda was one of the closer RPG-ish games I played and due to being a child and unsure where I am suppose to go in it I was turned off until I was older (thus making me avoid most other rpgish games).

When 7 came out it seemed to be a big deal to everyone since most of my friends had a PS and I did not so I could not see how "great" it was. Later, I found out it was on PC so I gave it a try and found it pretty interesting and it helped me get into other FF and more RPGs in general (led me to play VIII which also came out for PC but sadly IX did not).
Regardless, as nice as the game was, it seemed a bit bland especially after I was venturing onto other RPGs and FFs. Granted I played FF7 when I was fairly young so I didn't really understand what the big deal in the storyline was besides some guy wants to kill everything until I played it a second time a few years later; but by then I had already played some other FFs and RPGs and enjoyed their story and characters more overall.

Not sure where you are getting the notion there are anti-FF7 people here. If they didn't "love" it then they are anti/haters of the game?

Again, I never hated the game and the whole benchmark being raised because of it was elluded to me since it was one of my first real RPG/FF experience. I just enjoyed others more "overall."

If I misinterpreted what you said then again I apologize.

K, you did misunderstand some of what I was saying so I will try and clarify it.

What I meant about "FF VII can't have been your first RPG" is not that it could not be your first RPG you have played, but in order to have a more objective opinion of the game and the genre as a whole you should have been playing/following other RPG's that came before VII. (Again I am dating myself here but there was plenty of RPG's that came before VII if you were old enough at that time to play and understand them) The reason I say this is because a lot of the VII fanboyism comes from those first timers, it's either the nostalgia of it being there first and what got them hooked into the series, or it was all about the big swords/Sephiroth/Cloud infatuation and they didn't even understand the majority of what was going on.


Now I have been unfortunate enough to have participated in a huge chunk of FFVII arguments, I have talked with a few people who disliked VII and had valid points/reasons, which is fine, but there is a whole group of people who scream about how shitty everything about VII is and a good chunk of those people have very little experience with the game and very limited knowledge of it. (I have ran into plenty who have either played only a couple hours, watched someone else play parts, or never played it at all) They prefer to condemn the game just cause it's cool to do now and act just as ignorant as the FFVII Fanboys.

[Meian]

Fair enough, my mistake then

[Fhloston]

While I'll certainly purchase a VII remake, I would rather have their efforts put in to a new Chrono entry, or Xenogears remake as well.

I loved VII, despite Cloud's emo attitude and Sephiroth's retarded motives. Chrono Trigger and Xenosaga easily had much better stories though, and main villains.

From what I have read, there's a small chance of Chrono Break being made. Will only truly be happy if the dream team (Hironobu Sakaguchi, Yuuji Horii, Akira Toriyama, and of course, a soundtrack from Mitsuda) returns.

[TacoTaru]

Excuse my ignorance as it's been almost a decade since I last played VII, but what exactly was the plotholes involving Sephiroth and Red XIII? I only played through it the first couple of times for the story and then spent the next 7 or so times maxing all my characters through different avenues, so I don't really recall any of these. Anyone care to enlighten me?

[SilverBreeze]

I would love a LoD remake if they fixed the horrible dialogue. Interesting story, good graphics for its time, great gameplay, all marred by dialogue a retarded third-grader could have written. Hell, I'll fix it myself, just give me a copy of the script and about two months.

And fix the fucking voice acting while you're at it.

LoD was an amazing game but the voice acting in some of the scenes made me want to mute my TV.

[Kurokikaze]

I can still hear it echoing in my head... GUST OF WIND THE DANCE!

Still a great game.

[Charismatic]

Legend of Dragoon sucks.
There, I said it.