Ares vs Heca

[Karbuncle]

Yeah, Hecatomb body is a piece of crap now. Is THF the only job with a use for it?

THF shouldn't touch it unless they're packin Mandau and using Mercy Stroke :\

[BerenTebogo]

From a drg stand point:
http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=128126

This is my Drakesbane gear and it doesnt let me down, augments on the Fay lance are dmg +5 dex+3 thunder damage +13

All its really missing is VFork :/

For Tp:
http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=128560

Homam/nq dusk if you cant get ahold of dusk+1, askar or turban if aces isnt in your reach, nq snipers, swift belt etc etc.

No. Bad!

[Callisto]

Edit: I'm blind

[Aurara]

Edit: apparently, i'm blind too.

[Genrye]

No. Bad!

Lol its not that bad

[Callisto]

Nah you're right, I misread that as legs, lol

[BerenTebogo]

Lol its not that bad

If you really need the ACC you should be wearing turban and using an ACC+7 ring instead of losing 1% haste for 3ACC. It kinda is that bad.

[Yugl]

Whether you use Zahaks or Heca Legs depends on the rest of your build. For instance, if Zahaks only brings you to dDEX=40, you're essentially getting 1% Crit (4% Crit) total out of it at the cost of a consistent 24ATT + 2STR. Same holds true when deciding between Heca and Ares legs.

[Shamaya]

For Drg I would Use Ares fulltime, and for War i would Tp in Ares and WS in heca. Again I can't give you concrete evidence to show whats best, But Just a Personal opinion.

Why do drgs love double attack and admonish haste? On the topic of Heca and Thf, it can beat Dragon Harness if your accuracy is low enough (precisely how low, I can't say offhand). But we also have Antares Harness and Furia Vest now.

[RyanWh]

if u dont hv homam & ASA legs, ares seems like 3rd choice for tp.

[Mayareira]

And there is Barbarossa's Zerehs if you can get your hands on a pair.

For TP, that is.

[Bromber]

This is my dragoon WS set
http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=128595
This is my War WS set
http://www.ffxiah.com/item_sets.php?id=128594

[Darlantan]

At first glance, sea gorgets. Do you use the same set for all war and drg weaponskills or what are those supposed to be?

[Bromber]

I use gorgets for steel cyclone and wheeling but stick with PCC for multihit.

Those are my only sets for WS gear

[Yugl]

I use gorgets for steel cyclone and wheeling but stick with PCC for multihit.

Those are my only sets for WS gear

PCC and Gorgets offer the same ACC to multi-hit WS. Gorgets offer fTP, but PCC does not. Use the gorget.

[Mazmaz]

PCC and Gorgets offer the same ACC to multi-hit WS. Gorgets offer fTP, but PCC does not. Use the gorget.

Then again we're not 100% sure of this right?

[Yugl]

Then again we're not 100% sure of this right?

It's the best conclusion based on previous testing. If you feel compelled to try and disprove this notion, then feel free to do so.