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  1. #1041
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    Whatever floats your boat, just giving out advice.

    Edit: And I don't see how you can have inventory issues on PLD with 80 spaces.

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    Carrying useless kaiser gear is actually what is killing you. And lol @ arx after I went to sleep

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    Quote Originally Posted by SathFenrir View Post
    Carrying useless kaiser gear is actually what is killing you. And lol @ arx after I went to sleep
    he's clearly a shell leader the +chr helps his speaking/leading abilities.

  4. #1044
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krispy View Post
    Buckler Earring and Fenrir's Stone/Rosenbogen if you want pure reduction. The Kaiser would mitigate damage ~on par with the DS+1 in most slots there if slightly below, but has the higher HP to go with it (less CE lost when hit - presumably when bloodtanking this will be often) so I would still stick with the Kaiser personally.

    EDIT: Also Shield Torque over Fort Torque.

  5. #1045
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raen Ryong View Post
    Buckler Earring and Fenrir's Stone/Rosenbogen if you want pure reduction. The Kaiser would mitigate damage ~on par with the DS+1 in most slots there if slightly below, but has the higher HP to go with it (less CE lost when hit - presumably when bloodtanking this will be often) so I would still stick with the Kaiser personally.

    EDIT: Also Shield Torque over Fort Torque.
    Yeah, I usually use shield torque & buckler earring. Idk if I wanna use boxers or shadow mantle. Just recently got the mantle so I'm gonna test it out.

    EDIT: I use Kaiser legs hands and body for Rampart, which seemed to be helping a lot. So I wouldn't say they are entirely useless.

  6. #1046
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    Ahh man, I missed the party last night

    Quote Originally Posted by Krispy View Post
    Yeah, I usually use shield torque & buckler earring. Idk if I wanna use boxers or shadow mantle. Just recently got the mantle so I'm gonna test it out.

    EDIT: I use Kaiser legs hands and body for Rampart, which seemed to be helping a lot. So I wouldn't say they are entirely useless.
    You'll want to use Shadow mantle.

  7. #1047
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krispy View Post
    Yeah, I usually use shield torque & buckler earring. Idk if I wanna use boxers or shadow mantle. Just recently got the mantle so I'm gonna test it out.

    EDIT: I use Kaiser legs hands and body for Rampart, which seemed to be helping a lot. So I wouldn't say they are entirely useless.
    Asa legs and dstl+1 body will do more than kaiser. Hands can do whatever. Shadow is the right choice. As far as rampart goes, if you are short on slots the legs and body are saving you 60ish damage every 5 minutes, or 12 damage a minute. In terms of things to be dropped for more useful options imo those are at the top.

  8. #1048
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    Hmm, I dunno. In terms of damage reduction they will be roughly on par with some preference towards the DS when stacked (VIT and DEF don't do -nothing-, they're just not amazing - but there is a large chunk of it on those two Kaiser pieces). They have HP as well which would mean your cumulative enmity deteriorates far more slowly when you're getting smacked around.

    21VIT on Kaiser Cuirass is enemy fSTR - 5.25 on average, which is -5.25% damage if they have 100 base damage, -2.625% if they have 200 base damage etc. Add the DEF's reduction to that and it'll be damn close to the Darksteel.

  9. #1049
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raen Ryong View Post
    Hmm, I dunno. In terms of damage reduction they will be roughly on par with some preference towards the DS when stacked (VIT and DEF don't do -nothing-, they're just not amazing - but there is a large chunk of it on those two Kaiser pieces). They have HP as well which would mean your cumulative enmity deteriorates far more slowly when you're getting smacked around.

    21VIT on Kaiser Cuirass is enemy fSTR - 5.25 on average, which is -5.25% damage if they have 100 base damage, -2.625% if they have 200 base damage etc. Add the DEF's reduction to that and it'll be damn close to the Darksteel.
    Also has huge -dex and str which increases likelyhood of missing or hitting for 0, which means less atonement usage. I mean how much are you bloodtanking these days? Pld/rdm solo, atonement matters. Dynamis? Atonement matters and lolpld. Hnms? Atonement matters and why are you not /nin.

    Biggest use is /rdm and honestly in those situations homam and ares body will be better since the haste, positive stats and refresh will increase kill speed which will reduce the dot taken because of shorter fight.

    Edit: besides head, head is awesome

    The real answer is to never uncurse kaiser, if you already have it then w/e but the applications are pretty lol.

  10. #1050
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    Posting from droid makes editing posts ridiculous, sorry

  11. #1051
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    Well, that much is all true. I suppose I just interpreted as meaning the situations where you're being raped quite badly (ie just throwing on this set to take hits in); if fulltiming then yeah, this wouldn't be so practical.

  12. #1052
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    The use of Koenig/Kaiser pieces (besides head) outside of Rampart is so situational, it's not worth uncursing unless you're extremely anal about PLD.

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    I just inferred fulltiming because he wrote for bloodtanking, not pdt, not like I could say with any certainty what he uses it for

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seedz View Post
    The use of Koenig/Kaiser pieces (besides head) outside of Rampart is so situational, it's not worth uncursing unless you're extremely anal about PLD.
    / lol

    and no i don't fulltime, i just threw it up there cause i got bored ._. i rarely get to used my kaiser minus the head for ichi cast and the other crap for rampart lol

  15. #1055
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    Obviously you really probably shouldn't be fulltiming haute, but I'm sure you know that.

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    He should, if he is bloodtanking for whatever reason

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    Define bloodtanking? Anytime he is engaged and has support killing faster via atonement will reduce damage by more than 7%

    If you are fucking around for your own pleasure then whatever, but outside of DI, AV, and PW you are kidding yourself

  18. #1058
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    I had DI in mind, and holding multiple mobs in campaign for instance. I agree though, Joyeuse all the way~

    Edit: I mean /RDM in Campaign, for general goofing around. I'm aware Joy is generally better, but I'm trying hard to give Haute a real use outside of whitegate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seedz View Post
    I had DI in mind, and holding multiple mobs in campaign for instance. I agree though, Joyeuse all the way~
    In campaign I would prefer joy for waltz spam, but yeah, whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seedz View Post
    I had DI in mind, and holding multiple mobs in campaign for instance. I agree though, Joyeuse all the way~

    Edit: I mean /RDM in Campaign, for general goofing around. I'm aware Joy is generally better, but I'm trying hard to give Haute a real use outside of whitegate.
    Ouryu, Dynamis, AV, PW( maybe? dunno).

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