Random Question Thread VI: I'm No Mathologist, But...

[Raen Ryong]

8 DEX(antares/skadi) is 2.4.

Forgetting that Skadi has 8CHR it also has more accuracy than Hecatomb Harness though too, so an obvious winner.

EDIT: Nyzul sucks on all servers, it's not just that... boss floors are the only ones you're likely to generate interest about.

[Khajit]

I'm sick and tired of shouting for hours on end to get Nyzul groups together, I just want from 61-75 tonight and I shouted for 1.5 hours, got 4 people including myself, then disbanded.

I'm about to transfer to a server that doesn't suck donkey shit.

What's a good, well populated server to transfer to?

Um... why get tired of it when you're in the final stages of it?
FL 80 is easy since you got tons of leeches.
After that you've basically got 81~100 which can be done in one go or two if you accidentally run into idiots. You're practically at the end.
Oh and all servers are retarded imo. Everyone seems to complain about their server so it seems to have more to do with idiots existing than them gathering on one server.

[TheTaru]

Of course. Asuran Fists is basically eight swings compacted into a weapon skill which, unless you're packing Fighter's Roll and some other pretty hefty DA potential, is going to be more swings than would have fit in that window

That's exactly what I thought, but only like two people agreed with me. Thanks for clearing that up

[mdkuser]

12 str(heca) is ~3 base damage on DE, 8 DEX(antares/skadi) is 2.4. Given that antares gives 12 acc and heca gives 10, I'd generally opt for antares unless acc is capped. A mirke(with any augments) has the base STR+5 DEX+5 which amounts to 2.75 base damage as well, for another option.
For unstacked with acc capped, heca > mirke > skadi > antares > w.e. Really though, how often is it going to be both unstacked AND acc capped?.. get an antares and stick with it.

actually one of the reason why people dont advise N body is that its is really easy to cap fstr during ws, w/o hecatomb body. ( with the other hecatomb pieces). In which case heca wouldnt be first. same arguments show that skadi hands beat hecatomb hands under caped acc and unstacked, same for cuchu belt vs warwolf, or cuchu vs cerb+1.

also if you want to do your best damage you will almost never stack ws with SA or TA, you separate them, and with high haste you do much more than 2 WS per minutes anyway.

[Kyte]

Anyone have the newest memloc for Kparser? All I can find is the 11-9-09 update.

[Rampagesama]

Anyone have the newest memloc for Kparser? All I can find is the 11-9-09 update.

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[RyaWHM]

Q1: are shogun rice balls ever good, or are they 100% lol?

Q2: were shogun rice balls ever good, or were they always 100% lol?

edit: assuming you have an unlimited supply of Uncle Ben's Shogun Ready Rice

[Kyte]

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[Khajit]

Q1: are shogun rice balls ever good, or are they 100% lol?

Q2: were shogun rice balls ever good, or were they always 100% lol?

edit: assuming you have an unlimited supply of Uncle Ben's Shogun Ready Rice

There's a setup for polearm sam that uses them which supposedly is about equal to an Usukane polearm sam. I don't know the exact setup but it's easy to figure out and you basically just have to take advantage of enhances riceball gear.
The feet during tp and then all 3 of em during penta since each piece is essentially atk+50, da+5 which beats out any other option i can think of pentawise.

[Raen Ryong]

Q1: are shogun rice balls ever good, or are they 100% lol?

Q2: were shogun rice balls ever good, or were they always 100% lol?

edit: assuming you have an unlimited supply of Uncle Ben's Shogun Ready Rice

That post is oddly monochromatic for you!

[Cantih]

Two questions.

1. What is the current opinion about using Elemental Obi's with helix spells? I seem to remember some claim about enhancing duration, even though the damage potency is redundant.

2. is it sure that X's Knife does not boost Sneak/Trick Attack when off hand, despite the fact it does affect both hands normal crits when off hand? (Trying to figure out if Vajra/X's is a valid combo.)

[Haroun]

As far as I know it was shown that Obi's don't effect Helix duration, so you're better off using Penitent's Rope or Argute Belt for damage.

[RyaWHM]

That post is oddly monochromatic for you!

can I make up for it with a picture?

http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/v.../shogun001.jpg

[Chen]

There's a setup for polearm sam that uses them which supposedly is about equal to an Usukane polearm sam.

anymore on this?

[Shinryuu]

It's bullshit.

[Yugl]

As far as I know it was shown that Obi's don't effect Helix duration, so you're better off using Penitent's Rope or Argute Belt for damage.

When was this?

[Haroun]

When was this?

Helix duration varies from 45 to 90 seconds. Weather, Day, Obis, Equip, MACC, Elemental Seal, all have NO EFFECT on the duration - it is purely random. I could go days talking about how this was found but seeing as I am rushing this post, please just take my word for it.

Secret's Out

It's easy enough to test for yourself. Cast a few Helix with weather, with and without the appropriate Obi, and count the tics. I've done it myself, it doesn't take more than 15 min to confirm.

[Karbuncle]

anymore on this?

Basically where it came from is "Enhances Rice ball" Effect gear stacks, so with Shogun Rice ball and "Myochin Kote" "Roshi Jinpachi" and "Nobushi Kyahan" you get this:

* HP +20
* Dexterity +4
* Vitality +4
* Charisma +4
* Attack +150*
* Defense +90*
* Double Attack +15*

(not 100% positive if the original stats are enhances, if they do just multiply the above by 3 (Not including Atk/def/Dbl))

Now i don' know how it stands against any armor type but that's the enhancement, it takes your food slot

(Base Shog. Riceball is)
HP+20
Dex+4
Vit+4
Chr+4
Attack+50*
DEF+90*
DBl atk+5*

(Atk/Def/Dbl only active while using at least 1 of the Riceball Armors)

[Hegarty]

actually one of the reason why people dont advise N body is that its is really easy to cap fstr during ws.

Not.... really, especially as Mithra or Taru, unless you're talking solely GC.

[Raen Ryong]

can I make up for it with a picture?

Permitted!

2. is it sure that X's Knife does not boost Sneak/Trick Attack when off hand, despite the fact it does affect both hands normal crits when off hand? (Trying to figure out if Vajra/X's is a valid combo.)

I'm pretty sure X's Knife does, otherwise Mandau/X would be a rather meh combination. And hi!

Not.... really, especially as Mithra or Taru, unless you're talking solely GC.

Though his statement is a bit general, DE is only really useful on merit level or lower mobs where capping fSTR on Daggers is easy if you have enough pieces of Hecatomb.