Random Question Thread VI: I'm No Mathologist, But...

[Andradi]

Warrior cannot 6-hit a weapon with 462 delay. (You can 6-hit a 480 delay weapon on non-SAM jobs with Rajas/Rose Strap/some kind of StoreTP body.)

It's still a 6-hit for SAM but you should be aiming to 5-hit your polearms which more or less requires 480 delay.

[stewie]

Warrior cannot 6-hit a weapon with 462 delay. (You can 6-hit a 480 delay weapon on non-SAM jobs with Rajas/Rose Strap/some kind of StoreTP body.)

It's still a 6-hit for SAM but you should be aiming to 5-hit your polearms which more or less requires 480 delay.

You can get a 5-hit on SAM with a 462 delay polearm with Engetsuto+1/Rose/Hachiman Kote/Brutal/Rajas/Usukane Sune-ate. But with 480 delay you can drop the hachiman kote and use dusk.

[Andradi]

Huh, interesting.

How much haste would be required for the 480 to win out, if possible?

[stewie]

Huh, interesting.

How much haste would be required for the 480 to win out, if possible?

The 480 will win out with at least haste spell and 16% haste in gear prior to the hand slot.

[pchan]

Anyone know the exact or a rough estimate on the evasion and/or AGI on chariot bosses?

bhaflau/silver sea/zhayolm require ~ 410 accuracy
arrapago requires ~ 430 accuracy

[Kyte]

thank you.

[Greg]

How the hell was it ever discovered that dorado sushi gives +3 enmity!?

[Wolfknight]

How the hell was it ever discovered that dorado sushi gives +3 enmity!?

Easily with method used to figure the known enmity value of every JA/Spell, and found hidden -enmity on marduk legs, just read Kaeko's blog on enmity testing and it's easy to understand how it's proven.

[Deader2818]

Easily with method used to figure the known enmity value of every JA/Spell, and found hidden -enmity on marduk legs, just read Kaeko's blog on enmity testing and it's easy to understand how it's proven.

Marduk legs has more than the -4 enm listed on the legs?

[Wolfknight]

Marduk legs has more than the -4 enm listed on the legs?

No they were edited to show the -enmity at some point after people found out about it.

[Feedmenow]

Calling all mathologists:

Would it be possible to hit the 80% haste cap constantly?

Doing some math with FFXIcalculator, I noticed that some of the values for the haste are bizarre, so I need to confirm a few things real quick:

Hitting 25% actual haste requires 26% gear haste in order to accomplish, correct? And of the 2handed DDs (need hasso), this would require Rune Chopper WAR, SAM/DRG, or Apocalypse DRK.
Advancing March caps at 9.38% haste.
Haste(spell) is 14.65% haste.
The table for values of Victory March on FFXIclopedia (ripped off of Kirschy's work) are correct.
Haste Samba and Hasso are 9.96% haste.

From my math so far based on those assumptions above, it would take 506 skill to hit the tier in Victory March needed to give DDs with 25% actual gear haste, haste(spell), Advancing March, 5/5 Haste Samba, and Hasso capped haste fulltime, am I right? I'm like 99% sure this is the case, but just want confirmation before I experiment further with it.

[Deader2818]

No they were edited to show the -enmity at some point after people found out about it.

Ah ok, didn't know that, cool.

[Kyte]

Easily with method used to figure the known enmity value of every JA/Spell, and found hidden -enmity on marduk legs, just read Kaeko's blog on enmity testing and it's easy to understand how it's proven.

I think what he was asking was why the hell did anyone even think to test it in the first place, and not so much why it's possible to find such an exact value.

[Feedmenow]

Looking back, Dorado Sushi's Enmity+ was discovered back in 2005 on Mysterytour.

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?fitem=8984&page=1&howmany=50#m1112813163 93672

[Deader2818]

Where does Ermine's Tail rank for thf? After Blau?

[Cairthenn]

Wouldn't beat Blau/Sirocco.

[Andradi]

Calling all mathologists:

Would it be possible to hit the 80% haste cap constantly?

Doing some math with FFXIcalculator, I noticed that some of the values for the haste are bizarre, so I need to confirm a few things real quick:

Hitting 25% actual haste requires 26% gear haste in order to accomplish, correct? And of the 2handed DDs (need hasso), this would require Rune Chopper WAR, SAM/DRG, or Apocalypse DRK.

DRG can also get veeeery close with perfect gear including Blitz ring, Relic Body +1 and Dusk Gloves +1 (24% haste from gear?)

[Deader2818]

Yeah, im aware blau is the best, im asking where does it rank after >_>

[seiji]

You can get a 5-hit on SAM with a 462 delay polearm with Engetsuto+1/Rose/Hachiman Kote/Brutal/Rajas/Usukane Sune-ate. But with 480 delay you can drop the hachiman kote and use dusk.

what about a 6hit enge+1 and sword strap?

[Andradi]

That's ~448 delay so it's like a 450 delay GKT except you're using a multihit weaponskill.