Random Question Thread VI: I'm No Mathologist, But...

[Callisto]

Similar question I guess, but does Counter check happen before or after Parry?

[seiji]

Does dual wielding increase the chance of parry proc? I'm trying to skill-up parry but I can decide if I should use Ninja or Samurai.

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[Callisto]

lol well I guess in that way it does

[zeal5050]

Yes, while the 2x Parry Knives are tempting, I still have a lot more parry skill on Samurai, between Tomoe and Myochin+1. The only thing that might make Ninja slightly better would be Innin(-20eva) usage?

[Bakthi]

Back when I started doing Salvage, people in the group told me to cast certain barspells when fighting bosses because it reduced damage...somehow. I was new, did what they asked and didn't ask any questions, but I've never heard of anything like that since. Is there any merit to it?

I had heard that Barthundra worked against archaic machinery TP move damage, but I don't have any data to back this up.

[Aero]

Yes, while the 2x Parry Knives are tempting, I still have a lot more parry skill on Samurai, between Tomoe and Myochin+1. The only thing that might make Ninja slightly better would be Innin(-20eva) usage?

-20 EVA is nothing compared to the natural EVA boost NIN has over SAM. I'd suggest SAM assuming you have -pdt gear on it simply because SAM can wear more. I'd also advocate Estaff over Tomoe.

[seiji]

Yes, while the 2x Parry Knives are tempting, I still have a lot more parry skill on Samurai, between Tomoe and Myochin+1. The only thing that might make Ninja slightly better would be Innin(-20eva) usage?

- tomoe + myochin is+20, like dual PK, but sam/nin dual PK+myochi+1=+30
- nin get innin-20eva but have 13 more eva skill

[Oulanbator]

What's the relation between chr, macc and skill for brd debuffs ?
I think in general 2 stat = 1 Macc = 1 skill, so it would be 2 Chr = 1 Macc = 1 skill.
But since brd have 2 magic skill combined, maybe Macc or stats are better than skill ?

Also, since Brd debuffs do not seem to have any kind of potency (unlike slow II or para), chr have no purpose other than being macc right ?

[Tylerm]

This is hard to answer because it'll happen so randomly. Sometimes I'll tab back into FFXI and I'll already have the red dot, sometimes I'm fine for a few minutes. I've never really tried to have a web browser in the background and not tab to it to see if anything happens. All I know for sure is if there there is no web browser running, everything works fine.

Edit: No other issues.

A little further testing just to try to add more information. I watch the memory usage of firefox and POL via the task manager and POL was sitting at about 80k, firefox around 40k upon opening. I stayed on for a good twenty minutes and noticed that firefox never went over POL. I forced firefox (Basically by just opening another tab) to surpass POL and go to about 85k, and instantly POL dropped to 30k. Is this normal?

[Callisto]

What's the relation between chr, macc and skill for brd debuffs ?
I think in general 2 stat = 1 Macc = 1 skill, so it would be 2 Chr = 1 Macc = 1 skill.
But since brd have 2 magic skill combined, maybe Macc or stats are better than skill ?

Also, since Brd debuffs do not seem to have any kind of potency (unlike slow II or para), chr have no purpose other than being macc right ?

I definitely wouldn't think that 1 skill = 1 macc based on the combined skill setup of songs, otherwise they'd be noticeably more accurate than other debuffing spells from jobs such as RDM, which they definitely are not.

CHR is just for MAcc purposes, that part is correct. My best suggestion is to just aim for the several pieces that either give huge amounts of one of the stats(Osode, Jester's +1, etc) or combine them (AF+1 hands, Marduk Legs/AF2 head, etc.).

[Hakamaru]

- nin get innin-20eva but have 13 more eva skill.

-20 EVA is nothing compared to the natural EVA boost NIN has over SAM.

This is a pet peeve of mine. Gearing or choosing your job to lower your evasion when leveling parrying is stupid. If you're not happy with how many hits are getting past the evasion check... pull more mobs. You should be gearing and choosing your job combination based off:

1.) Maximized survivability (what can handle the most hits past evasion check per minute?)
2.) Parrying skill gear.

That should be it. Anything else can be compensated for by pulling more mobs. SAM/DNC with soboro seems an ideal candidate for this in most instances. So /DNC gives you an evasion boost... pull another mob to compensate for it. Hell... you can probably pull 2-3 more than you could with another sub because you can infini-cure yourself.

[Oulanbator]

I definitely wouldn't think that 1 skill = 1 macc based on the combined skill setup of songs, otherwise they'd be noticeably more accurate than other debuffing spells from jobs such as RDM, which they definitely are not.

CHR is just for MAcc purposes, that part is correct. My best suggestion is to just aim for the several pieces that either give huge amounts of one of the stats(Osode, Jester's +1, etc) or combine them (AF+1 hands, Marduk Legs/AF2 head, etc.).

So it would be 1 macc = 2 skill = 2 chr ?
I would really like to understand how it works.

[Kamil]

I'm debating if I should buy a Vulcan's Staff for my blm, or Mahatma Slops first. If Vulcan is commonly used in endgame, I'll probably buy that.

[Byrthnoth]

Mahatma Slops.

[Eole]

SAM/DNC with soboro seems an ideal candidate for this in most instances.

Where ? What monsters ? I'd like to skill up, I'm only 240+.

[Yugl]

Where ? What monsters ? I'd like to skill up, I'm only 240+.

Chigoes till 250 I think then Puks at Den of Rancor until capped.

[Kyte]

Similar question I guess, but does Counter check happen before or after Parry?

It checks after. It's Evasion>Parry>Shadow>Counter>Shield Block/Guard I believe.

[pchan]

So it would be 1 macc = 2 skill = 2 chr ?
I would really like to understand how it works.

I'm not aware of serious or not serious test about magic accuracy with songs. The formula you mentioned works as long as you exceed the target's stat +10, but was only tested extensively for elemental magic, and a little for enfeebling magic. Nothing has been done for dark magic, divine magic, blu magic or ninjutsu either. It's assumed to be true until proven otherwise.

[Kyte]

I believe the tests showed that INT did nothing for Drain/Aspir.

[Unholythrash]

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