Random Question Thread VI: I'm No Mathologist, But...

[Darlantan]

What has been said. You will be able to climb floors being BLM not because the job is particularly useful there by any means, but rather because with a half decent group Nyzul is pretty easy. Nyzul works the best usually with setups similars to those used in exp parties (Healer, BRD, THF, 3 DD, or two healers and no bard, or brd + cor + 2 dds etc). Of course BLM can help sleeping mobs, nuke some slimes, pull, start getting to the rune while others finish, get a lamp surrounded by 5 aggressive mobs... but the point is any of the other jobs (THF mostly if farming run only) will be far more useful to be able to kill whatever the random factors throws you.

[Windfoxster]

how is someone supposed to get his Mythic weapon for his job, when almost everyone ignores this job?

Go as another job and keep hitting those NMs and pray. You will be surprise that it is not that rare, well for me. Got 20 mythic weapons myself, the only 2 weapons that i have to force it are pld and bst. Well, i won't have to force Pld actually but a friend of mine exited before it got sorted and i never seen it ever after.

[Nevex]

I've done plenty of 5-man boss runs, if you have friends who do that simply ask them to let you leech. Yes you'll be a deadweight most of the time as BLM, but this doesn't mean that a setup that includes one is doomed to fail.

[Eldelphia]

i understand that BLM has the big disadvantage of the MP going down fast. And resting in nyzul-Isle is no good idea.

any thoughts on this?

We managed with a BLM to floor 60 with no real consequences. He regeared his SAM for 60+ but honestly if you have good DD up front you'll be fine. BLM has its uses, is a godsend with stun and slimes and great for sleeping gears. Just be self reliant. Balrahn's/Refresh Sanction/Refresh Body all help and be prepared to help cure. I'd take a BRD with a BLM rather than a RDM but then someone else will yell about how shit a BRD is in Nyzul.. which we also found utter BS. Oh and before anyone asks, we did NI for about a year, with a semi static and restarted once when they made the runic disk change and farmed a ton of complete sets and loads of odd pieces.

[Baha]

my point is: is BLM absolute worthless in Nyzul-isle?

Needs to be carried as a DD, needs to be carried as support. Get a static with some friends, or level another job. Pickups have no reason to want to carry someone they don't know, if they even have the capability and competence to be able to do so in the first place.

[Byrthnoth]

What are the worthwhile DNC AF+1 pieces? None of it looks super fantastic, but I was maybe thinking head for a Waltz macro? Idk!

[Cream Soda]

What are the worthwhile DNC AF+1 pieces? None of it looks super fantastic, but I was maybe thinking head for a Waltz macro? Idk!

Yea, af+1 head is much better than af2 for waltz dawg.

[Callisto]

The legs were a decent WS piece until Surge Subligar came around, but that kinda wrecks them. They're still technically a solid self-Waltz piece, but none of the AF+1 is really worth losing the ability to store the set now, IMO.

[NynJa]

I did fine 2boxing my 2 mules to 100, one a fully merited BLM and the other a very gimp rdm. Static was SAMx3 RDM RDM BLM. I think the only time we lost a run was when we got epically screwed over: 2 multi flayer floors, one all enemies + CC, and I dont remember the other 2 floors.

BLM can do fine in Nyzul if you're trying to push to 100. Now if you're trying to farm tokens and want to do 6-8 floors per tag, then BLM may not be so friendly.

[Bakthi]

Changing the "cap" or the "decay rate" seems very hard to do on 1 mob in particular... Is this noticeable on other flying wyrms? KS99, Jorm, Ouryu BC?

We've done Ouryu and Wyrm since the Fomor NMs were added, and I didn't notice any difference.

[Byrthnoth]

Ok, sweet. One less job to think about limbus stuff for. And yeah, I forgot the Relic head.

[Talli]

Hi RNG question, recently got Altdorfs/Wilhelms earrings, now i will admit i dont understand the mathy side of things all that pDif and fStr stuff makes my eyes bleed..... so i took my trusty bow and slaughtered some bunnies,

2x Triumph earrings = 2385 sidewinder
Altdorf/Wilhelm = 2415 sidewinder

is there a point where STR would be > AGI (i.e. mob lvl)

havent killed Ixion for a looong time so cant test it on him.

thanks.

[Callisto]

If you're getting the full fSTR2 bonus(pretty common for higher-end mobs I believe since it caps pretty high) the 4 STR should win out for Sidewinder. The 8 AGI will win for Slug though, afaik.

[NynJa]

I have to test that out on higher level mobs too. On starter mobs, it seems that the dwarf earrings win out on any ear slots. I want to parse em on something more difficult.

[Khalil]

Hi RNG question, recently got Altdorfs/Wilhelms earrings, now i will admit i dont understand the mathy side of things all that pDif and fStr stuff makes my eyes bleed..... so i took my trusty bow and slaughtered some bunnies,

2x Triumph earrings = 2385 sidewinder
Altdorf/Wilhelm = 2415 sidewinder

is there a point where STR would be > AGI (i.e. mob lvl)

havent killed Ixion for a looong time so cant test it on him.

thanks.

General rule of thumb; if your fSTR is capped, use the modifies. If not, try to cap to fSTR. If you were beating on bunnies, that would explain your dmg increase w/ the ears.

[Talli]

i remeber on Ixion my normal attacks would cap at around 118 per shot and sidewinders with no buffs were capped at around 840. i assume 8 AGi wont be better than 4 STR for that?

[Aragon of Odin]

What is the Vit cap for Rampart?

[Callisto]

I'm pretty sure the magic shield doesn't actually cap, at least I've never heard of anyone doing so...though typically most people use it as a hate tool in addition to a magic damage reduction, so I don't know anyone who has really given up all their enmity+ in exchange for max VIT.

[NynJa]

its the trick to surviving AV meteor, rampart rotations.

[Aragon of Odin]

I don't sacrifice enmity for Vit, was just having a discussion on it though and had heard it was like 105 or 110 and wasn't sure if that was true or not.